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Slater, NJ.com: Could C Cesar Ruiz be on Giants radar?

Big Blue '56 : 4/6/2020 6:52 am
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Here’s a look at Ruiz’s NFL.com scouting report:

“Athletic and tenacious with the combination of skills and technique to fit into a variety of blocking schemes on the next level. Ruiz wins early with initial quickness and fast hands into first contact. He works to convert early advantages into wins. He’s consistent in securing down-blocks and has the athletic traits to become a second-level factor. He’ll give some ground to power rushers and needs help against wide-bodies, but the tape checks out. Ruiz has early starting potential and should develop into a good pro with guard/center flexibility.”

Gettleman will enter the draft later this month with a bunch of roster holes. And he has just two picks before No. 99 — fourth overall and 36th. Considering center remains a significant need for Gettleman, don’t be surprised if he gives Ruiz a homecoming in the NFL.


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RE: RE: Thanks Peppers  
MeadowlandsMike : 4/6/2020 3:45 pm : link
In comment 14860749 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Jeremiah's take:

Ruiz is an extremely consistent, physical and aware center. In pass protection, he has a tight punch and immediate anchor. His lower body is outrageously strong. He is very aware vs. twists/stunts. He lacks elite foot quickness, but he doesn't have any issues sliding and redirecting to stay square vs. defenders. In the run game, he latches and runs his feet to create movement. He is outstanding on combo blocks, staying under control, locating and walling off linebackers. His lack of foot quickness shows up on outside pulls. Overall, Ruiz reminds me of Travis Frederick coming out of Wisconsin.

Would love him as our round 2 pick. Think he will be a beast if he is anything close to Frederick.


I've been thinking Wirfs is likely ahead of Wills on the Giants' board, but if we could come out of the first two rounds with Wills, Ruiz and a third pick by way of a short trade-down in round 1 (Josh Uche or Zack Baun would be great targets with a second 2nd rounder), It's hard to imagine a better scenario.

I'd say the same for a trade-down that nets Simmons and then Ruiz and a second-tier OT prospect like Jones or Jackson or Wilson, but I don't see Simmons being available with a trade-down because I think if the Giants vacate #4, he could be a target that someone jumps in front of them for (or the Lions could just take him at #3).


Wills/Becton, Ruiz , Baun/Murray/Uche/Matos would be a spectacular haul. Ruiz might cost us a 4th and 5th in trade up like last year to get him.
High Interest in Ruiz  
HugeS : 4/6/2020 4:27 pm : link
Hearing a lot of new projections of Cesar Ruiz as a back of first rd beginning of second rd guy. His perceived value as a guard might be driving his value higher than we think. He might be gone by 36 especially as guard is so lacking for top end talent in this year’s class.
by 2021, DG will likely be  
BigBlueCane : 4/6/2020 4:28 pm : link
gone and we'll know if Judge is legitimate or not.

I suspect that DG is going all in on fixing the defense, trusting Garrett to make the Offense not so inept.

Its the fastest way to turn things around, even if its not the best way.
RE: Ruiz is the highest-graded IOL at NFL.com...  
Peppers : 4/6/2020 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14860567 Klaatu said:
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If you don't count Tristan Wirfs, lol.

Anyway, Lloyd Cushenberry is graded just two ticks below Ruiz.



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Starting-caliber center with big hands, long arms and good core strength to match power on power when needed. Cushenberry isn't rigid or stiff, but he does have some limitations with lateral quickness, which show up against athletic edge rushers and with potential run game limitations in space. He's extremely difficult to bull-rush and is rarely beaten to the punch in his pass sets. LSU was frequently tasked with five-man protections in its passing scheme, which put Cushenberry on more of an island than he will see as a pro, so scouts should account for that. He's a do-your-job prospect with the strength to handle an odd-front nose and could be a long-time starter.



Hennesey and Biadasz are graded considerably lower.


Glad you mentioned Cushenberry, who I like. He had a very good senior bowl week. Good leader/Great character. He did a fine job making the correct line calls for a pro-style offense. His length is an added advantage. Solid at getting his hands inside early however not as consistent as Ruiz. I think he does a better job vs power players than Ruiz does. Drops his hips and anchors not giving much ground. In LSU's matchup vs Auburn, Derek Brown lined up at 0 more than a few snaps leaving Cushenberry 1 on 1.. Cushenberry held his own on most reps. Very few centers in the country could do that vs Brown. I should note, Brown ultimately got the better of LSU's line (Very impressive performance considering LSU's OL won the Joe Moore Award). Overall, I see why some want to move Cush to guard but I think he's a starter at center early and will prove his worth at that position.
Could Brown play alongside Williams?  
PatersonPlank : 4/6/2020 8:30 pm : link
I like Cushenberry too. The Wisky C is dropping for some reason, but I still like him.
RE: Hard to asses but just rattling off names that could be there in no  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/6/2020 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14860358 Tuckrule said:
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Order. If we go tackle at 4. These are the guys I’d have in mind over a center. I think we can get Hennessy around 99.

Baun*
Gross Matos
Winfield Jr.*
Diggs
McKinney*
Pittman Jr
Mims
Weaver
Okwara
Isiah Wilson
Dugger/chinn
Terrell Lewis


From what I have read, Hennessey will end up in DJ's lap in less than 2 seconds. He has no sand in the pants.
RE: RE: Reason why a trade down is so needed  
Deejboy : 4/7/2020 7:30 am : link
In comment 14860369 Spider56 said:
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The 2nd RD can net us a starting FS, Center and WR.



+1 ... great minds think alike ... now if we can only convince DG ...

Convince him of what? You can't trade down unless someone offers to trade up. Some of you guys just want to trade down for ANYTHING. Which is just idiotic. Unless you good a good offer to trade down, it is pointless to trade down.
RE: one would hope if they pass starting OL again in the draft  
Deejboy : 4/7/2020 7:34 am : link
In comment 14860635 BigBlueCane said:
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and the OL continues to struggle in the regular season, people up to and including DG lose their jobs.

But it's just hope.

If Simmons become an All-Pro and DG takes a starting but okay OL most Giants fans who complained about the OL will say they should have taken Simmons and want DG fired anyway.
Deej,  
Big Blue '56 : 4/7/2020 7:45 am : link
many somehow refuse to comprehend that all GMs want as much draft capital as they can procure. But, you need people to make reasonable/acceptable offers to even consider pulling the trigger. GMs are rarely asleep at the wheel. They may be lousy GMs in evaluations, but they are aware of what’s going on given how many people are in their ear.
RE: RE: Ruiz is the highest-graded IOL at NFL.com...  
Klaatu : 4/7/2020 8:29 am : link
In comment 14861059 Peppers said:
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In comment 14860567 Klaatu said:


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If you don't count Tristan Wirfs, lol.

Anyway, Lloyd Cushenberry is graded just two ticks below Ruiz.



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Starting-caliber center with big hands, long arms and good core strength to match power on power when needed. Cushenberry isn't rigid or stiff, but he does have some limitations with lateral quickness, which show up against athletic edge rushers and with potential run game limitations in space. He's extremely difficult to bull-rush and is rarely beaten to the punch in his pass sets. LSU was frequently tasked with five-man protections in its passing scheme, which put Cushenberry on more of an island than he will see as a pro, so scouts should account for that. He's a do-your-job prospect with the strength to handle an odd-front nose and could be a long-time starter.



Hennesey and Biadasz are graded considerably lower.



Glad you mentioned Cushenberry, who I like. He had a very good senior bowl week. Good leader/Great character. He did a fine job making the correct line calls for a pro-style offense. His length is an added advantage. Solid at getting his hands inside early however not as consistent as Ruiz. I think he does a better job vs power players than Ruiz does. Drops his hips and anchors not giving much ground. In LSU's matchup vs Auburn, Derek Brown lined up at 0 more than a few snaps leaving Cushenberry 1 on 1.. Cushenberry held his own on most reps. Very few centers in the country could do that vs Brown. I should note, Brown ultimately got the better of LSU's line (Very impressive performance considering LSU's OL won the Joe Moore Award). Overall, I see why some want to move Cush to guard but I think he's a starter at center early and will prove his worth at that position.


The last time I "fell in love" with a Center who impressed me during Senior Bowl week, the Giants drafted him in the 2nd round (#43 overall).
RE: RE: one would hope if they pass starting OL again in the draft  
JonC : 4/8/2020 9:23 am : link
In comment 14861279 Deejboy said:
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In comment 14860635 BigBlueCane said:


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and the OL continues to struggle in the regular season, people up to and including DG lose their jobs.

But it's just hope.


If Simmons become an All-Pro and DG takes a starting but okay OL most Giants fans who complained about the OL will say they should have taken Simmons and want DG fired anyway.


So true.
Jon, a write-up on Nick Harris (possible 3rd rounder) at C  
Big Blue '56 : 4/8/2020 9:29 am : link
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Nick Harris, center, Washington: The Giants are in the market for a young center and Harris (6’1″, 302) is a tough guy who fits what the Joe Judge Giants are aiming to be: hard-working and team-oriented



Thoughts on the guy?
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