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This is the 1st draft that I can remember

Rudy5757 : 4/6/2020 1:31 pm
that has so many different players ranked in the top 10 from different scouts. Even mock drafts fluctuate so much between different posters. The only 2 that seem to be pretty consistent are Burrow and Young. After that there are 14 players that have been ranked in the top 10 and #3 seems to have the most discrpency between Okudah, Simmons, Tua & Brown. Only 2 of the QBs have a top 10 ranking in Burrow and Tua. Brown, Simmons & Okudah seem to be the consenus next 3, then its a mix of the rest of the players. All of the 4 OTs have been ranked in the top 10 but Becton and Wirfs seem to be the top 2 OTs followed by Wills and then only 1 had Thomas. There is no consensus on the 2 WRs, I guess it depends on what you want.

Hopefully someone jumps up for Herbert but it doesnt appear the value is there for him. My hope is that Washington picks Young and Det picks one of the other guys and someone wants to jump Miami for Tua. my feeling has been that you can get a similar level player anywhere in the top 14 and I would prefer Becton at this point. I think he will improve this team the most. Next I would go Okudah if he is there. I dont care for Simmons, Brown is not an immediate need and want someone who will help more now. Wirfs scares me, I don't see OT but I think he could be a good interior guy too high for me and not an immediate need. If we drop a guy like Murray would be nice. If we can get 2 #1s from Oakland and a 3rd I would like that option because there isnt much drop off, you can still get an OT at 12 and a good player at 19.

ESPN top 10 (Looks like its McShay')

Young
Burrow
Okudah
Brown
Simmons
Jeudy
Tua
Wills
Kinlaw
Lamb

GBN

Burrow
Young
Simmons
Brown
Okudah
Tua
Lamb
Wirfs
Kinlaw
Becton

Jeremiah

Young
Burrow
Simmons
Brown
Okudah
Tua
Becton
Kinlaw
Lamb
Wills

Walter Football

Young
Brown
Okudah
Thomas
Becton
Tua
Lamb
Simmons
Murray
CJ Henderson

Kiper (Only can get top 5)

Young
Burrow
Okudah
Simmons
Tua

The names appear to be in no order

1. Young
2. Burrow
3. Okudah
4. Brown
5. Tua
6. Simmons
7. Kinlaw
8. Wirfs
9. Becton
10. Lamb
11. Jeudy
12. Wills
13. Thomas
14. Murray
14. CJ Henderson
This is why I would love to trade down  
LeonBright45 : 4/6/2020 2:21 pm : link
The guys at the top of this draft are not can't miss pro prospects. The drop-off to the next bests is not far. The value is in the picks between 15 and 75 where I believe there will be a lot of guys who end up being better than the guys taken before them.

We all want at the very least a sure fire perennial pro bowl player with pick #4. Wishing for the sky we want a Hall of Fame type that you can see in a gold jacket one day. The problem is that he might not be available in this draft picking at 4. Most of these guys at the top have holes in their game; they either have a high floor/low ceiling(maxed out), or they have a low floor(no production & bad technique) with a high ceiling(Mekhi Becton).

If we can get a team like the Jaguars or the Raiders to give up basically their entire draft, or a team like the Dolphins to give us their entire draft from pick 18 on down plus their 2021 2nd round pick to give them both the #4 and the #5 this year. Carolina might be willing to give up their first 4 picks plus a 2021 2nd rounder plus a 4th rounder.

I'd like to have a great great player if that is what we are getting at #4. If Young slides we grab him. If we think Simmons is the end all be all then take him. .... But if we are just filling needs then we might as well fill as many as possible by acquiring the most day two picks as we can get and I do mean that we can afford to trade down and to trade players that don't fit into our current plans.

if Tua goes at 3  
Chip : 4/6/2020 3:41 pm : link
Will anyone be willing to trade up for Herbert. I hope the answer is yes but I believe that is wishful thinking.
Top 5 is pretty consistent  
George from PA : 4/6/2020 6:05 pm : link
I think the issue is the WRs.....with so much talent, do any warrant top 10 pick?
RE: if Tua goes at 3  
Ira : 4/6/2020 6:24 pm : link
In comment 14860869 Chip said:
Quote:
Will anyone be willing to trade up for Herbert. I hope the answer is yes but I believe that is wishful thinking.


We'd need multiple teams interested to make the offers worthwhile.
Well  
OC2.0 : 4/6/2020 7:40 pm : link
You can put that Raider trade on the wishful thinking list. They’re not going to go up for anybody imo.
Seems the same to me.  
section125 : 4/6/2020 9:07 pm : link
Every year confusion after the top two or three.
And another thing,  
section125 : 4/6/2020 9:11 pm : link
Wirfs scares you, but Becton is your guy? Yes highest ceiling I will grant you, but easily the lowest floor. Wirfs seems to me to be the least likely to fail.
But that discrepancy is what I see as the biggest between pundits - the OT ratings.
RE: Well  
LeonBright45 : 4/6/2020 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14861076 OC2.0 said:
Quote:
You can put that Raider trade on the wishful thinking list. They’re not going to go up for anybody imo.


I don't know..... They just moved to Vegas. Maybe they want to start fresh by selecting a new QB. Carr was never Gruden's guy.
RE: And another thing,  
Rudy5757 : 4/6/2020 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14861136 section125 said:
Quote:
Wirfs scares you, but Becton is your guy? Yes highest ceiling I will grant you, but easily the lowest floor. Wirfs seems to me to be the least likely to fail.
But that discrepancy is what I see as the biggest between pundits - the OT ratings.


Yes Wires scares me because I feel like he will be a guard. I think at worst Becton will be a very good RT which is a big need. Becton has the attitude to dominate his opponents.

Wirfs dominated the combine but I didn't like him before and I didnt change my opinion. I think the Giants will force him at OT but I can't get past that I see him as a good guard and average OT. He didn't show in college what he showed at the combine.
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