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Carl in CT : 4/6/2020 2:06 pm
Earlier then most here think. The last four years the top center was taken:

2019 at #18
2018 at #20 and #21
2017 at #58
2016 at #18

The trend suggests if there is a good one you need to grab early. Not sure how Ruiz stacks up just saying a lot earlier then people here think.
I agree, I think they're going to have to grab one at #36  
GiantsRage2007 : 4/6/2020 2:12 pm : link
If they want one of the top guys.
Agree  
Big Blue '56 : 4/6/2020 2:13 pm : link
with Rage2007
yes & no - last year was a good center year and just 3 went days 1 & 2  
Eric on Li : 4/6/2020 2:14 pm : link
at the top at least, the depth was lacking however because only 5 got drafted overall.

In 2018 8 centers got drafted with half (4) going day 1 or day 2.

Most seem to think this is a good center draft so the question is how good?

Ruiz, Hennessy, Biadasz, Cushenberry all seem likely to be day 1 or 2 and could be day 1 starters.

I've seen several others (less frequently) ranked in the top 100 as well - specifically Muti, Hanson, Harris, Williams, and Ismael.

The numbers would point to it being likely that at least half of the names I just listed will be around when we are on the clock in the 3rd round with the comp pick.
agree with rage2007 and BB56. C is is a grossly undervalued  
Victor in CT : 4/6/2020 2:18 pm : link
position . If there is a guy they think can fill that hole for long term, gotta grab him.
Agree  
lugnut : 4/6/2020 2:27 pm : link
I am certain top OC (Ruiz) will go Rd 1, maybe top two OCs (Cushenberry?). Even third best (Biadasz?) I think we'd have to take at #36. I would do it - it's worth it.
If the Gmen don’t get a center in the draft  
Wiggy : 4/6/2020 2:29 pm : link
Or through FA they are in deep shit. Prepare for d linemen intercepting handoffs to Barkley and lots of sacks. P & P are not the answer. But maybe I’m just “sleeping” on them 🤣
I think the hype around Ruiz is legit...  
Vin_Cuccs : 4/6/2020 2:39 pm : link
Teams are loving him.

Ithink he’ll go in the back half of the 1st round.
RE: If the Gmen don’t get a center in the draft  
Eric on Li : 4/6/2020 2:41 pm : link
In comment 14860797 Wiggy said:
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Or through FA they are in deep shit. Prepare for d linemen intercepting handoffs to Barkley and lots of sacks. P & P are not the answer. But maybe I’m just “sleeping” on them 🤣


there is no way they are entering the season with just Pulley. Maybe there is a guy avail on trade market like Linder as a backup, or Judge likes Pio, or maybe they love Gates there. Who knows. But there is no way they enter training camp with just Pulley.
I could see them trading back up into round 1  
BillT : 4/6/2020 2:47 pm : link
If Ruiz were there late first. The 99 pick and the 36 pick could get them into the late 1st if they can find a partner.
I think traditional draft values no longer apply to O-linemen.  
81_Great_Dane : 4/6/2020 2:55 pm : link
Quality linemen have become scarce, even with prospects drafted in rounds 1-3, and it's very hard to develop guys drafted in the later rounds. It's not quite as difficult as quarterback but it's getting there, especially for left tackles.

Linemen probably need to be "overdrafted" compared with what we are used to.
RE: RE: If the Gmen don’t get a center in the draft  
GiantsRage2007 : 4/6/2020 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14860810 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14860797 Wiggy said:


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Or through FA they are in deep shit. Prepare for d linemen intercepting handoffs to Barkley and lots of sacks. P & P are not the answer. But maybe I’m just “sleeping” on them 🤣



there is no way they are entering the season with just Pulley. Maybe there is a guy avail on trade market like Linder as a backup, or Judge likes Pio, or maybe they love Gates there. Who knows. But there is no way they enter training camp with just Pulley.


We better hope not!! Ugh..

I remember a number of years ago the Cowboys "reached" for Frederick at the end of 1st round and people were shaking their heads. Look at their line with him and without. They will be looking to take a C too...
I'd Rather The Giants Played to the Strength of the Draft  
Jim in Tampa : 4/6/2020 3:14 pm : link
That means (barring a RD-1 trade down) the top defender available at 4 (of Young/Simmons/Okudah) and the top WR at 36.

Many here would have us overdraft an OT at 4 and then overdraft a C at 36. Giants have holes everywhere except for QB and RB, and they're not going to fill them all in one year.

Draft BPA at 4 and 36. Then we can worry about filling those holes.
Good chancec Ruiz is gone in Round 1  
Torrag : 4/6/2020 3:23 pm : link
If he's there at #36 he's the pick.
RE: I think the hype around Ruiz is legit...  
MeadowlandsMike : 4/6/2020 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14860806 Vin_Cuccs said:
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Teams are loving him.

Ithink he’ll go in the back half of the 1st round.


With a slight tradedown in round 1 we could some of the draft capital or a lter round to jump up like we did last year back into round 1 if Ruiz falls enough.

Pick 6 or 7: Wills or Becton
Pick 25 ish: Ruiz (stud reciever or Murray)
RE: yes & no - last year was a good center year and just 3 went days 1 & 2  
Ivan15 : 4/6/2020 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14860779 Eric on Li said:
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at the top at least, the depth was lacking however because only 5 got drafted overall.

In 2018 8 centers got drafted with half (4) going day 1 or day 2.

Most seem to think this is a good center draft so the question is how good?

Ruiz, Hennessy, Biadasz, Cushenberry all seem likely to be day 1 or 2 and could be day 1 starters.

I've seen several others (less frequently) ranked in the top 100 as well - specifically Muti, Hanson, Harris, Williams, and Ismael.

The numbers would point to it being likely that at least half of the names I just listed will be around when we are on the clock in the 3rd round with the comp pick.

Day 1 starter for the Giants. No other team is so desperate for a Center.
does anybody read here  
Dave on the UWS : 4/6/2020 4:12 pm : link
Pio did not have his option picked up. 2 major injuries and is 29. judge is moving on.
I'd like to wait till later and take Jake Hanson..  
Thunderstruck27 : 4/6/2020 4:52 pm : link
the guy is smart at football, tough, mean, and I don't think he ever allowed a sack. Herbert was his QB..he did ok.
The knock I see against him is that he doesn't have NFL strength...pretty sure guys can get stronger.
Thunder  
Torrag : 4/6/2020 5:28 pm : link
I like Hanson...as the second OC we should draft in this class. To push Pulley off the roster. But we'll need a better option than him at 1C.
RE: does anybody read here  
GiantsRage2007 : 4/6/2020 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14860907 Dave on the UWS said:
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Pio did not have his option picked up. 2 major injuries and is 29. judge is moving on.


We’d like to hope so...

Don’t be surprised when Gettleman tells us not to sleep on him again and they re sign him and roll his repaired body out there.
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