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Rumor: Tua has failed at least one physical

Beer Man : 4/9/2020 6:47 am
due to multiple injuries. From the Miami Herald.

This could make the Redskins/Lions/Giants picks more valuable for teams looking to trade up for a QB.
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How would  
Walt in MD : 4/9/2020 6:49 am : link
That be good news for the Giants?
I really don't envy the Dolphins this one  
English Alaister : 4/9/2020 6:51 am : link
They got burnt so bad on Brees and this such a similar choice for them. They must be so tempted to gamble on him.
This  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2020 6:56 am : link
Is why I said that if Chase Young falls to #4 you don’t get cute unless you are offered the deal of a lifetime.
RE: How would  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/9/2020 6:57 am : link
In comment 14863303 Walt in MD said:
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That be good news for the Giants?


Less options at QB. Tua will probably drop, maybe even out of the first round and Herbert is the highest rated QB for Miami or the Chargers.

To get a healthy player that can play week 1 Miami could stay put, but rick the the Chargers jumping ahead or Miami might want to move up to secure their own pick.
RE: How would  
Beer Man : 4/9/2020 6:57 am : link
In comment 14863303 Walt in MD said:
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That be good news for the Giants?
Injuries are never good news, but this could increase the value of a guy like Hebert, and increase the sense of urgency of teams looking QB to trade up.
Lying season is in full gear....  
George from PA : 4/9/2020 7:19 am : link
Curious, that rumor comes from the Miami Herald...which covers the team that is most interested.

What price to move down is too costly?
Just remember it’s lying season.  
barens : 4/9/2020 7:20 am : link
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Young is NOT falling to 4  
ZogZerg : 4/9/2020 7:22 am : link
BBI needs to get over that fantasy.
RE: RE: How would  
Milton : 4/9/2020 7:27 am : link
In comment 14863306 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 14863303 Walt in MD said:


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That be good news for the Giants?



Less options at QB.
Less options at QB is bad for the Giants. It means there's one less QB for a team to fall in love with and be willing to sacrifice assets in order to move up. It's not like a team is going to value Herbert and Tua the same. They will fall in love with one or the other or neither, but not likely both.
Teams  
mdthedream : 4/9/2020 7:29 am : link
know he is not playing this year. He is not going to drop and Football will be lucky to have a season let alone play a rookie QB without training camps.
RE: Young is NOT falling to 4  
Ivan15 : 4/9/2020 7:38 am : link
In comment 14863313 ZogZerg said:
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BBI needs to get over that fantasy.


BBI exists for fantasy and delusion. Why should this be any different?
Here come little Bill  
Dankbeerman : 4/9/2020 7:55 am : link
to scoop him up as damaged goods and turn it into 4 more rings...
What George in Pa  
Big Blue '56 : 4/9/2020 8:00 am : link
said
RE: RE: Young is NOT falling to 4  
Dankbeerman : 4/9/2020 8:01 am : link
In comment 14863321 Ivan15 said:
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In comment 14863313 ZogZerg said:


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BBI needs to get over that fantasy.



BBI exists for fantasy and delusion. Why should this be any different?


Its not hard to imagine Okudah and Simmions being #1 on some teams board. QB is not the only reason for a team to trade up. May see some savy team trade up to get young

So no team would like about this so that he falls?  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/9/2020 8:03 am : link
I can see him failing a physical. But I guess my question would be when was This physical taken. Etc. Lots of bullshit this time of year generally

People say the Lions are fine w Stafford. Think he’d pass every creams physical these days?
Everyone knows about “lying season”  
UConn4523 : 4/9/2020 8:04 am : link
other GMs aren’t getting duped by reports leaked by their competition - they know about deception too.

This is for fans to eat up and speculate about. And as much of a health risk I think he is I’m not sure what this report is even saying. He broke his wrist before and it happened again in college - so is it broken now? If not why the failed physical?

Unless he failed for the hip I don’t buy it.
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Peppers : 4/9/2020 8:05 am : link
I've heard nothing of a failed physical but even if we did it's still early in his rehab process and we're months away from any real football activities. There is a concern with how well he'll hold up in the NFL.. Miami and LA have to decide if that's too much of a concern.
Options  
Gruber : 4/9/2020 8:05 am : link
He's not the only quarterback in the draft.
Jordan Love, Justin Herbert may also tempt teams to trade up.
The Dolphins have Fitzpatrick for 2020  
YAJ2112 : 4/9/2020 8:16 am : link
they don't need Tua to have to start day 1.
shocking news  
Chip : 4/9/2020 8:32 am : link
from a Miami paper. Like many of said you don't believe anything that is said and during the pandemic it may just add to it.
Lombardi  
UGADawgs7 : 4/9/2020 8:36 am : link
On his podcast GM Shuffle said multiple teams failed Tua, not just 1.
Safe Picks  
upnyg : 4/9/2020 8:37 am : link
Wouldn't be surprised if the 1st rounds picks were "safer" than in the past due to the lack of visits, etc.

But more risk will be taken after that round 1 for players that may need more development time due to league delays, etc.

The NFL may have a shortened season, who really knows at this point.
It depends on which team failed him  
Rudy5757 : 4/9/2020 8:41 am : link
Also how do you fail a physical when you cant meet with him? It could just be a way to take him off the board so the fans of that team dont go ballistic. "We didnt take him because he failed the physical"
RE: shocking news  
LBH15 : 4/9/2020 9:25 am : link
In comment 14863368 Chip said:
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from a Miami paper. Like many of said you don't believe anything that is said and during the pandemic it may just add to it.


well done
RE: Teams  
joeinpa : 4/9/2020 9:36 am : link
In comment 14863318 mdthedream said:
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know he is not playing this year. He is not going to drop and Football will be lucky to have a season let alone play a rookie QB without training camps.


No offense, but I believe there is a thread designated for covid 19. We get more info, mostly negative, in many other places, please try to refrain from interjecting more negativity football threads

Again, no offense, not trying to be snarky. But just listened to morning news, and stepped away with coffee to visit my favorite Giants site, and clicked on interesting thread to find out how it might impact the Giants, not to read more about this dire situation.

Thanks
Patriots probably created this rumor  
jlukes : 4/9/2020 9:37 am : link
so he can drop to within their striking distance
Doesn't surprise me  
Dave on the UWS : 4/9/2020 9:43 am : link
Salgaro is a good reporter. He doesn't make crap up. I don't make a board, but if I did I wouldn't go near this guy. If it was one injury,fine, but he if you looked in Websters Unabridged and looked up "injury prone", you would see Tua's picture next to it!
Anybody thinking this is good news for the Giants is  
robbieballs2003 : 4/9/2020 9:44 am : link
out of their mind.
RE: It depends on which team failed him  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2020 9:47 am : link
In comment 14863377 Rudy5757 said:
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Also how do you fail a physical when you cant meet with him? It could just be a way to take him off the board so the fans of that team dont go ballistic. "We didnt take him because he failed the physical"


You still have access to medical records and films. You can also pose hypotheticals to physicians regarding the types of hits a player will take
Hard to see him falling out of the 1st round...  
trueblueinpw : 4/9/2020 9:49 am : link
Might drop out of the top ten overall but I don’t think he makes it out of the first round. What does it even mean that he’s failing his physical? Maybe he’s not back 100% but it’s not like he won’t play again. I think the bigger issue is whether or not teams believe in the “injury prone” label.
If it's just a rumor, one must ask,  
Mr. Bungle : 4/9/2020 9:50 am : link
"What is the purpose of the rumor?"
Two  
AcidTest : 4/9/2020 9:57 am : link
teams apparently failed him. Lying season is certainly here, but this seems plausible. My belief is that Miami will trade with Detroit for Herbert, and no one will want to trade with the Giants for Tua. That leaves us at #4, unless someone wants to move up for Simmons, Okudah, Brown, or an OT, which is certainly possible.

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Chris in Philly : 4/9/2020 9:57 am : link
In comment 14863456 joeinpa said:
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In comment 14863318 mdthedream said:


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know he is not playing this year. He is not going to drop and Football will be lucky to have a season let alone play a rookie QB without training camps.



No offense, but I believe there is a thread designated for covid 19. We get more info, mostly negative, in many other places, please try to refrain from interjecting more negativity football threads

Again, no offense, not trying to be snarky. But just listened to morning news, and stepped away with coffee to visit my favorite Giants site, and clicked on interesting thread to find out how it might impact the Giants, not to read more about this dire situation.

Thanks


Sorry, but I am not seeing why he should not be able to say how a situation impacting the globe may also have an effect on the very topic of this thread. No offense intended, but come on man...
saying there may not be football  
UConn4523 : 4/9/2020 10:01 am : link
isn't a weird thing to say on a football thread. Its very much in jeopardy and lets say the season was cancelled (I don't believe that) but wouldn't that give another year for Tua to heal making him less risky?

This is all just stuff we are pulling from our asses but you need to get used to talking about a messed up NFL season in NFL threads.
RE: RE: RE: Teams  
YAJ2112 : 4/9/2020 10:05 am : link
In comment 14863492 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 14863456 joeinpa said:


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In comment 14863318 mdthedream said:


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know he is not playing this year. He is not going to drop and Football will be lucky to have a season let alone play a rookie QB without training camps.



No offense, but I believe there is a thread designated for covid 19. We get more info, mostly negative, in many other places, please try to refrain from interjecting more negativity football threads

Again, no offense, not trying to be snarky. But just listened to morning news, and stepped away with coffee to visit my favorite Giants site, and clicked on interesting thread to find out how it might impact the Giants, not to read more about this dire situation.

Thanks



Sorry, but I am not seeing why he should not be able to say how a situation impacting the globe may also have an effect on the very topic of this thread. No offense intended, but come on man...


Sounds like we found one of the reasons why the thread is no longer pinned.
Even if true,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/9/2020 10:10 am : link
I still think some team trades up to take him.
RE: Lying season is in full gear....  
Stu11 : 4/9/2020 10:21 am : link
In comment 14863311 George from PA said:
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Curious, that rumor comes from the Miami Herald...which covers the team that is most interested.

What price to move down is too costly?

This x1000. Absolutely someone(likely the Dolphins) throwing it out there to cool interest in him.
This really is just fan stuff  
UConn4523 : 4/9/2020 10:29 am : link
no GM is going to see this report and get scared. They are going to do what they always do and that's try to uncover everything they can about the player and make their decision from there - this report has no bearing on anything other than something for all of us to waste time talking about.
If this is true the GM's already know this  
PatersonPlank : 4/9/2020 10:33 am : link
The public just hears this kind of stuff after the fact. So if yesterday many teams wanted Tua in the 1st, then they will again today.
GM's on the hot seat are not passing on him,  
SleepyOwl : 4/9/2020 11:04 am : link
Even if he sits an entire year. Chris Grier is starting to feel the pressure after trading away his 2016 selection Tunsil and 2018 Minkah, then trading a 2nd for Rosen. Anyone paying attention to the Miami situation can see they are desperate for a quarterback. Tua buys Grier time even if hes "injured." Dolphins are so desperate they are considering trading 4 1st rounders to Cincy for Burrows. Giants are well aware and are definitely looking to capitalize.
"News" coming out of Miami on Tua?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/9/2020 2:54 pm : link
No possible subterfuge here.
RE: Young is NOT falling to 4  
FStubbs : 4/9/2020 4:29 pm : link
In comment 14863313 ZogZerg said:
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BBI needs to get over that fantasy.


Young is a Redskin. I mean, it's as much a lock as any pick in years.

And yes, this is lying season for some of these teams. Miami might have put that out hoping to drive Tua's value down so they can snatch him while staying put.
RE: RE: Young is NOT falling to 4  
OC2.0 : 4/10/2020 1:28 am : link
In comment 14863972 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14863313 ZogZerg said:


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BBI needs to get over that fantasy.



Young is a Redskin. I mean, it's as much a lock as any pick in years.

And yes, this is lying season for some of these teams. Miami might have put that out hoping to drive Tua's value down so they can snatch him while staying put.

That’s possible. I’ve said before I think Mia can sit tight & take 1 or the other. Already are on their way to turning around thru FA. With 6 picks, I think, in 1 & 2, they stand to make last year well worth it.
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