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| “We literally sat there for two hours and he asked me questions about every NFL receiver — how he releases [off the line of scrimmage] and why,” Jeff Hafley told The Post. “That showed how much he loves football and how serious he is about how good he wants to be, where most college guys would’ve been hanging out with their buddies.” Okudah’s likely landing spots are Detroit — as a replacement for traded All-Pro Darius Slay, whether at pick No. 3 or slightly lower after a much-speculated trade — or the Giants at No. 4. “In the NFL, you are going to get balls thrown on you and touchdowns caught on you, which he hasn’t had a whole lot of,” Hafley said. “He is going to have to mentally challenge himself to line up and do it over and over again at a high level. I believe it’s one of the hardest positions to play as a rookie.” |
Solder is set to be paid $20.5M in 2021 but has a dead cap hit of $6.5M (it would have only been $4M but the brain trust that ran out of money last year restructured his deal a bit. With that said, Solder should be a likely cut freeing up a good deal of money.
However, plug and play LTs don't grow on trees and as we can see in a lot of these mock drafts don't last long past rd 1 or 2. Therefore, the NYG can actually try and solve for their current and future OT issues now by picking a couple in this draft. And if it works out, they can solve for an open position at RT now, potentially season someone for replacing Solder in 2021 and save a boat load of money to play with in next years free agency if maybe a Pass Rusher can be had.
+1, especially 1st round draft resources. To take Baker and Okudah back to back years, is essentially saying we are somewhat fine elsewhere. Because we took DJ, you can argue our two most important "future" positions are LT and RT. Right now, we don't have a long term solution for either, unless Solder somehow has a come to jesus moment and turns into a plus player in his last 2 years with us
I agree with this.
I don't think we are "set" at corner. We have a lot of question marks.
I don't expect the Giants to take Okudah, but I'd be fine with it if they did.
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Okudah would indicate a massive waste of resources on Bradberry & Baker. Can't do it.
+1, especially 1st round draft resources. To take Baker and Okudah back to back years, is essentially saying we are somewhat fine elsewhere. Because we took DJ, you can argue our two most important "future" positions are LT and RT. Right now, we don't have a long term solution for either, unless Solder somehow has a come to jesus moment and turns into a plus player in his last 2 years with us
Again, you're going back to the flawed notion that the draft is gir filling holes. Taking Okudah doesnt say we are "fine" at other positions, it simply says he is the best player on the board.
"BPA" is great, it should be the case. But it should absolutely not be the case if you've spent premium draft capital, and premium FA dollars, on that same position. It just isn't smart.
And honestly, Okudah could be awesome. It won't mean shit if every opposing QB has 5 or 6 seconds to throw the ball on every down.
I'm sure you find my perspective frustrating, but I'm not changing mine. A bridge too far. The good news for you is I'm not the GM.
As JonC said that would allow the Giants to move Ballentine to FS where he could be a player.
That is true, but can't that be said for any position, any player? I get it, you gotta make sure you don't whiff. But who's to say Okudah won't be a bust? We don't know.
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picking a OT at #4 doesn't ensure the problem is solved. If your conviction on a particular OT and his correlating value on your draft board says he's the guy, by all means make him the pick.
That is true, but can't that be said for any position, any player? I get it, you gotta make sure you don't whiff. But who's to say Okudah won't be a bust? We don't know.
The point about conviction and sticking to your board still applies to CB, for me.
And maybe the Redskins shouldnt be picking for the same unit every year and spread value elsewhere. Kind of like Giants with corners.
Link - ( New Window )
Who's right will be known in time.
And they are going to take another one this year.
Big questions from a year ago remain, OL and pass rush. But, I expect the defense to improve because it couldn't be worse. And, their overall best talent is really young and will hopefully make leaps forward.
Just curious...IF they do go OT...who is your preferred choice?
Oline needs to be improved but the thing about Oline is you are only as good as your weakest link, not as good as your strongest, and this is particularly true in pass protection. If it's me, I'm grabbing a playmaker of defense at 4 and continue looking for opportunities to improve Oline in remaining draft.
But if they do decide to go OT at 4, I sure hope they get a guy who can be a difference maker in the running game.
I am really warming up to this pick.
With a 4.48 forty (TE Evan Engram at 240 is 4.4). Okudah is not shut-down material.
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and 8 wins is a good sign the arrow could be pointing up, at last. And, if they go OT at #4 I'll back the pick and hope he's a fucking animal for NYG.
Just curious...IF they do go OT...who is your preferred choice?
I really like Wirfs, my only concern with him is positional ceiling. Is he best suited to RT? OG? I want a potential replacement for Solder at #4.
With a 4.48 forty (TE Evan Engram at 240 is 4.4). Okudah is not shut-down material.
Who do you consider a shut-down corner?
Can you clarify? You mean you'd hope they would trade down?
IF we had to make the pick at #4 I'd go Young if available and take Wills/Simmons before I'd pick Okudah. I have them in the same tier.
The Giants worst units are offensive line and secondary . Everybody centers on the line but the secondary is a mess. Coaching will help-no question . But who is really reliable back there ?
I still think they will trade down to get an extra pick . Those picks will be an offensive lineman and a center . But with all these scenarios that are developing , the only one I don’t like is getting Simmons at 4 . Even with thought of him being purely a S .
Judge isn’t going to do this in a year . The talent level of the roster is not high enough for that . But the plan is in place instead of pipe dreams and disastrous sentimentality .
Wills/Wirfs or Simmons make the most sense.
Give it another year and let’s reevaluate if DG missed on all his corner decisions.
Deion, Champ Bailey, D Green—they were all guys who ran
Under 4.3
Ronnie Lott did not have elite speed, but he also switched to
Safety. I think Lott is the best comparison if you think Okudah can
Be great. But isn’t it long odds looking for the next Ronnie Lott?
That's your answer GFAN52.
If you have elite speed, that helps you make up for your mistakes; no substitute for it.
"Graham’s defense brought extra pressure significantly less often, relying on blanket coverage from the secondary. The Dolphins only sent four rushers on 51 percent of snaps, five rushers on 21 percent of snaps, and six or more rushers on six percent of snaps, managing to get extra pressure on the quarterback on 27 percent of plays, the fewest in the NFL. "
Graham's tendencies - ( New Window )
yeah, and they were the worst defense I saw all year. Honestly, I hope this hire pans out for us.
As opposed to trotting Jones out there behind rookies?
You have way too much faith in rookies. You guys seem to thi k a rookie tackle and rookie center are going to hit the ground running and keep Jones clean all year.
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don't bitch and moan when Jones is still getting destroyed game after game
As opposed to trotting Jones out there behind rookies?
You have way too much faith in rookies. You guys seem to thi k a rookie tackle and rookie center are going to hit the ground running and keep Jones clean all year.
Nobody thinks that, as depending upon who and when they pick they can work guys in as they go thru season or next year, subject to injuries of course.
But if you don’t start...you will never finish.
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don't bitch and moan when Jones is still getting destroyed game after game
As opposed to trotting Jones out there behind rookies?
You have way too much faith in rookies. You guys seem to thi k a rookie tackle and rookie center are going to hit the ground running and keep Jones clean all year.
This whole conversation escapes me. We have no OL. We might luck out and start curing that by selecting an OT in this draft. They all tell us the OTs available in it are swell. Pick what the best one is and be done with it, win or lose. How worrying about other positions can compete with this need makes me (and many others) crazy. Pick the OT!