In this Pats-style D, the "Edge Rusher" is completely devalued. The speedy, bendy edge rusher who gets upfield is moot in this scheme.
Belichick doesn't care about that position. Neither do Gettleman/Judge. We can see that based on their signings/drafting. Belichick values every other position on D (IDL, LB, CB, S) over ER.
This defensive scheme is about disrupting the pocket from the inside shoulder of the Left Tackle to the inside shoulder of the Right Tackle, containing the QB in the pocket and forcing him to throw with guys in his face.
The "Edge Rusher" in this scheme is there to contain the QB, NOT to rush upfield past and behind the QB like the overrated Osi Umenyiora used to always do. Rush to a certain depth, stay on the inside shoulder of the OT, and squeeze inside. Contain the QB. The pressure comes from the 3 IDL pushing the pocket inside, and blitzing ILBs up the middle. The secondary reads the pocket squeeze and covers accordingly.
But, more importantly,
I did not see a single guy on the board value-wise that would have been a better gamble or upgrade over what they already have in Carter and Ximines.
Guys like Epenesa and YGM ended up with teams that will employ them where they will succeed. They are definitely not fits for what the Giants have constructed thus far, that much is a fact.
Not a good class to upgrade what we already have IMO.
From elsewhere. There will be elements of Garrett’s offense, Graham’s defense.
Please take a flyer on LB Chris Orr, who is a master of generating inside pressure.
Also, think it’s just that they had better grades and value on players that didn’t happen to be edge.
Agreed.
Belichick doesn't value edge, my foot. If he didn't value edge rushers the Giants wouldn't have been so successful with Lawrence Taylor, who had his best years under Belichick as LB coach and Defensive Coordinator.
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In this style defense... but I’m sorry. You still need players that can beat blockers in one on one situations to create pressure. And Osi was NOT overrated. He put the entire team on his back more than once to get the win.
Agreed.
Belichick doesn't value edge, my foot. If he didn't value edge rushers the Giants wouldn't have been so successful with Lawrence Taylor, who had his best years under Belichick as LB coach and Defensive Coordinator.
Please name all the great pass rushers the Pats have had over the years.
Baltimore, Chicago, and Tennessee do the same thing btw.
And those are 4 of the best defenses in football.
That's not to say you can't also be successful with a defense more like SF - which has a ton of pass rushers.
Baltimore, Chicago, and Tennessee do the same thing btw.
And those are 4 of the best defenses in football.
That's not to say you can't also be successful with a defense more like SF - which has a ton of pass rushers.
Good post..more than 1 way to skin a cat. SF and the Eagles are more akin to the waves of pass rushers (that the Giants made famous in 2007) :)
Meanwhile each year there are a few good CB's in FA (like Logan Ryan, and Stephon Gilmore, and Byron Jones, etc) and teams do find DB's each year in mid to late rounds - JC Jackson, Malcolm Butler, Desmond King, Avonte Maddox, etc.
Who is the last 10 sack guy who got drafted day 3?