You cut him and move on. He was a problem last year with his attitude and it continues. Now this garbage.
The tone needs to be set for the Judge area....here you go.
RE: There’s no way he gets out of jail time here......
Robbery, aggravated assault! Im wondering how the Giants will view this?! He’ll most likely get suspended by the league. Is he worth keeping around?
Only if we can’t get from out of the contract, and if he somehow still holds any value after this is all said and done. I think they will likely cut him if it cancels out the contract, crossing my fingers.
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A spokesperson for Miramar Police told @BradyHenderson
that there have been discussions with at least one of the player’s representatives about turning himself in. But neither Baker nor Dunbar had done so as of 8:10 p.m. ET.
about Baker's past. There were attitude concerns, not off the field concerns. He skipped a bowl game and he was absent during some film sessions and was combative with certain teammates. He did not have arrests or off the field incidents.
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
about Baker's past. There were attitude concerns, not off the field concerns. He skipped a bowl game and he was absent during some film sessions and was combative with certain teammates. He did not have arrests or off the field incidents.
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Giants PR out doing damage control already I see. Thanks, Dave.
Adam Schefter
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A spokesperson for Miramar Police told @BradyHenderson
that there have been discussions with at least one of the player’s representatives about turning himself in. But neither Baker nor Dunbar had done so as of 8:10 p.m. ET.
Baker turning himself in won’t alter the likely outcome here.
about Baker's past. There were attitude concerns, not off the field concerns. He skipped a bowl game and he was absent during some film sessions and was combative with certain teammates. He did not have arrests or off the field incidents.
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Giants PR out doing damage control already I see. Thanks, Dave.
saying the same thing over and over doesn’t change the fact that you have nothing to actually go on here. You are passing blame on the guy drafting him instead of the player - think about that.
Bakers past didn’t suggest armed robbery. You are flat out lying if you claim otherwise.
about Baker's past. There were attitude concerns, not off the field concerns. He skipped a bowl game and he was absent during some film sessions and was combative with certain teammates. He did not have arrests or off the field incidents.
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Those alone should have been a red flag not to trade up into the first round to take him.
RE: I can't think of any other NFL starter (Millionaire)
about Baker's past. There were attitude concerns, not off the field concerns. He skipped a bowl game and he was absent during some film sessions and was combative with certain teammates. He did not have arrests or off the field incidents.
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Whether he's robbing someone or being unaccountable to the point where a coach (obviously wasn't going to be Shurmur) has to constantly evaluate whether or not he should be a part of the team...that's a guy you want on the team? Trade into the first round for? Right after the Beckham situation?
If we're being honest Baker hasn't flashed the on field thus far to warrant any of that.
about Baker's past. There were attitude concerns, not off the field concerns. He skipped a bowl game and he was absent during some film sessions and was combative with certain teammates. He did not have arrests or off the field incidents.
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Yeah, but there was also talk that he removed the labels from his matress.
Looks like Getty may not have picked up the street in him during pre-draft interviews. Heard he told Dunbar or someone else with a gun to kill someone who was there. Minimum of 20 years. Just another dumbass punk.
Defending the Giants front office right now than the reality that yet another high Giants pick will likely not pan out and more importantly committed a violent crime.
No wonder the Giants got away with 2013-present. To apply an old Jets saying to our beloved Big Blue...Same old Giants!!
So it says pre-June 1, dead cap hit is $7.588M and a savings of $5.196M. Post June 1 cut Dead cap $4.75 M and $2.36 M savings... would it make more sense for NYG to wait until June 1, if they have less of a cap hit? And are there clauses in these players contracts where these types of situations nullify some cap hits to these players that ruin things for the teams?
Defending the Giants front office right now than the reality that yet another high Giants pick will likely not pan out and more importantly committed a violent crime.
No wonder the Giants got away with 2013-present. To apply an old Jets saying to our beloved Big Blue...Same old Giants!!
Well, you could just direct anger at the guy who is actually accused of doing something. I know that means your other pitchfork might go unused, but your probably broke the shit out of it a long time ago.
What's actually incredible is that you act as if the front office is the issue here.
RE: at least they haven't found a dead body at his house?
Unreal, every off season there is always some ridiculous story of a key Giants player fucking up there life, JPP blows hand off in contract year, Jenkins brother murders someone in his house, Baker commits armed robbery and aggravated assault, oh boy, can’t wait for the next one.
Darnay Holmes only played 76 snaps at slot in his college career. Makes sense to play him outside initially and have Love man the slot for the time being.
Penalties for Robbery with a Firearm
The crime of Robbery with a Firearm is a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 9 offense severity ranking under Florida’s Criminal Punishment Code.
If convicted of Robbery with a Firearm, a judge is required to impose a minimum sentence of either the 10/20/Life Firearm Enhancement or 48 months in prison absent grounds to impose a downward departure sentence and can also impose any combination of the following penalties:
Up to life in prison.
Up to life on probation.
Up to $15,000 in fines.
10/20/Life Firearm Enhancement
Under Florida Statute 775.087(2)(a)(1), a person convicted of actually possessing a firearm during the commission of a Robbery with a Firearm, as opposed to being an unarmed accomplice, is subject to being sentenced under Florida’s 10/20/Life statute.
So it says pre-June 1, dead cap hit is $7.588M and a savings of $5.196M. Post June 1 cut Dead cap $4.75 M and $2.36 M savings... would it make more sense for NYG to wait until June 1, if they have less of a cap hit? And are there clauses in these players contracts where these types of situations nullify some cap hits to these players that ruin things for the teams?
What about the clause if your player commits armed robbery?!
I guess CB will be another hole to fill next offseason again.
So it says pre-June 1, dead cap hit is $7.588M and a savings of $5.196M. Post June 1 cut Dead cap $4.75 M and $2.36 M savings... would it make more sense for NYG to wait until June 1, if they have less of a cap hit? And are there clauses in these players contracts where these types of situations nullify some cap hits to these players that ruin things for the teams?
The Giants may be able to get this money back. I am not 100% sure how it works but I think any money that has been paid out already is paid out for the books but any guaranteed money not paid out yet may get taken off. Obviously, we'll have to see how this plays out first.
Penalties for Robbery with a Firearm
The crime of Robbery with a Firearm is a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 9 offense severity ranking under Florida’s Criminal Punishment Code.
If convicted of Robbery with a Firearm, a judge is required to impose a minimum sentence of either the 10/20/Life Firearm Enhancement or 48 months in prison absent grounds to impose a downward departure sentence and can also impose any combination of the following penalties:
Up to life in prison.
Up to life on probation.
Up to $15,000 in fines.
10/20/Life Firearm Enhancement
Under Florida Statute 775.087(2)(a)(1), a person convicted of actually possessing a firearm during the commission of a Robbery with a Firearm, as opposed to being an unarmed accomplice, is subject to being sentenced under Florida’s 10/20/Life statute.
This could easily be kicked up federally-Hobbs Act.
To paraphrase the late great David Stern the Giants are not a model of intelligent management.
Flowers, Beckham, Apple, Baker. Excellent character vetting system.
Since we're talking about two different GMs. Maybe the problem is the senior vice president of player personnel. Good thing he owns the team or people might hold him accountable.
The tone needs to be set for the Judge area....here you go.
Only if we can’t get from out of the contract, and if he somehow still holds any value after this is all said and done. I think they will likely cut him if it cancels out the contract, crossing my fingers.
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A spokesperson for Miramar Police told @BradyHenderson
that there have been discussions with at least one of the player’s representatives about turning himself in. But neither Baker nor Dunbar had done so as of 8:10 p.m. ET.
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Please help, we can't be the first team that this happened to?
Or the first team that had a player shoot themselves and derail a super bowl season
Or the first team to have a star pass rusher blow off their hand..
Can we?
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Giants PR out doing damage control already I see. Thanks, Dave.
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A spokesperson for Miramar Police told @BradyHenderson
that there have been discussions with at least one of the player’s representatives about turning himself in. But neither Baker nor Dunbar had done so as of 8:10 p.m. ET.
Baker turning himself in won’t alter the likely outcome here.
What bothered me were the whispers we heard about his poor work ethic and sub optimal attitude.
Now after this bizarre robbery we also hear that he didn't show up for any of the voluntary (Zoom) meetings.
After a rough first year and with a new coach and a new system, you can't even show up for a "sit in front of your computer" meeting???
Good fucking riddance!
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about Baker's past. There were attitude concerns, not off the field concerns. He skipped a bowl game and he was absent during some film sessions and was combative with certain teammates. He did not have arrests or off the field incidents.
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Giants PR out doing damage control already I see. Thanks, Dave.
OK Clouseau. Point to his arrests...
Bakers past didn’t suggest armed robbery. You are flat out lying if you claim otherwise.
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Baker they need to fire Gettleman. What an embarrassment.
Fire him for what? For drafting a player that got in trouble? Guess the Pats should have fired Belichick for drafting a murderer?
Jesus Christ sometimes this board is the worst.
Yeah let's put Belichik in the same category as Gettleman. Unbelievable
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Those alone should have been a red flag not to trade up into the first round to take him.
Please help, we can't be the first team that this happened to?
Or the first team that had a player shoot themselves and derail a super bowl season
Or the first team to have a star pass rusher blow off their hand..
Can we?
Was Maurice Clarette still in the league when he was busted for armed robbery?
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Whether he's robbing someone or being unaccountable to the point where a coach (obviously wasn't going to be Shurmur) has to constantly evaluate whether or not he should be a part of the team...that's a guy you want on the team? Trade into the first round for? Right after the Beckham situation?
If we're being honest Baker hasn't flashed the on field thus far to warrant any of that.
Last season, there were reports of him falling asleep in team meetings. Again - nothing illegal.
Don't exaggerate this to where it was evident to anyone with two eyes that Baker was headed into the life of an armed gunman
Yeah, but there was also talk that he removed the labels from his matress.
Hernandez was actually good though!
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arrested for Armed Robbery?
Please help, we can't be the first team that this happened to?
Or the first team that had a player shoot themselves and derail a super bowl season
Or the first team to have a star pass rusher blow off their hand..
Can we?
Was Maurice Clarette still in the league when he was busted for armed robbery?
If I remember correctly, his life went to total shit once he was excommunicated.
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arrested for Armed Robbery?
Please help, we can't be the first team that this happened to?
Or the first team that had a player shoot themselves and derail a super bowl season
Or the first team to have a star pass rusher blow off their hand..
Can we?
Was Maurice Clarette still in the league when he was busted for armed robbery?
If I remember correctly, his life went to total shit once he was excommunicated.
He was banished from the church?
No wonder the Giants got away with 2013-present. To apply an old Jets saying to our beloved Big Blue...Same old Giants!!
Yet! He's still on the loose so there is a chance.
You have to assume that his NFL career is over. At least with the Giants.
Well, falling asleep in meetings will lead to armed robbery.
Obviously.
No wonder the Giants got away with 2013-present. To apply an old Jets saying to our beloved Big Blue...Same old Giants!!
Well, you could just direct anger at the guy who is actually accused of doing something. I know that means your other pitchfork might go unused, but your probably broke the shit out of it a long time ago.
What's actually incredible is that you act as if the front office is the issue here.
Haha, good one.
Unreal, every off season there is always some ridiculous story of a key Giants player fucking up there life, JPP blows hand off in contract year, Jenkins brother murders someone in his house, Baker commits armed robbery and aggravated assault, oh boy, can’t wait for the next one.
The crime of Robbery with a Firearm is a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 9 offense severity ranking under Florida’s Criminal Punishment Code.
If convicted of Robbery with a Firearm, a judge is required to impose a minimum sentence of either the 10/20/Life Firearm Enhancement or 48 months in prison absent grounds to impose a downward departure sentence and can also impose any combination of the following penalties:
Up to life in prison.
Up to life on probation.
Up to $15,000 in fines.
10/20/Life Firearm Enhancement
Under Florida Statute 775.087(2)(a)(1), a person convicted of actually possessing a firearm during the commission of a Robbery with a Firearm, as opposed to being an unarmed accomplice, is subject to being sentenced under Florida’s 10/20/Life statute.
What about the clause if your player commits armed robbery?!
You have to assume that his NFL career is over. At least with the Giants.
He will be on the cowboys, Redskins, or Jets in a few weeks.
The Giants may be able to get this money back. I am not 100% sure how it works but I think any money that has been paid out already is paid out for the books but any guaranteed money not paid out yet may get taken off. Obviously, we'll have to see how this plays out first.
This makes no sense.
Deandre Baker is an utter and complete moron (most likely scenario) or someone is lying to the cops.
The crime of Robbery with a Firearm is a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 9 offense severity ranking under Florida’s Criminal Punishment Code.
If convicted of Robbery with a Firearm, a judge is required to impose a minimum sentence of either the 10/20/Life Firearm Enhancement or 48 months in prison absent grounds to impose a downward departure sentence and can also impose any combination of the following penalties:
Up to life in prison.
Up to life on probation.
Up to $15,000 in fines.
10/20/Life Firearm Enhancement
Under Florida Statute 775.087(2)(a)(1), a person convicted of actually possessing a firearm during the commission of a Robbery with a Firearm, as opposed to being an unarmed accomplice, is subject to being sentenced under Florida’s 10/20/Life statute.
This could easily be kicked up federally-Hobbs Act.
This waste is done.
Flowers, Beckham, Apple, Baker. Excellent character vetting system.
Since we're talking about two different GMs. Maybe the problem is the senior vice president of player personnel. Good thing he owns the team or people might hold him accountable.
You have to assume that his NFL career is over. At least with the Giants.
we sent jenkins away for saying retard. this guy should be cut immediately by those standards