but one thing that's been reported about him is that he wants to be here. Might not be able to say the same about other coaches we would want. In other words, he might be the best we can get. Atkinson is a Long Island guy and was previously on the staff, but it's possible he might have a few jobs from which he can pick. We can outbid any team, but other than that, it's not exactly an attractive job. Maybe it looks a little better after the draft/offseason.
Do you hire him now and let him coach whatever games are left? There is supposedly going to be a 2 week training camp..Gives him a slight head start on next season..
are higher than we think. He's a cheap, competent choice for the short term, and the front office can re-evaluate when the roster is further along. He also behaved like an adult last year during crazy circumstances.
T-wolves pretty much sucked worse before thibs and suck worse after thibs.
Thibs likely isn’t getting all that power and control here and to completely condem the guy for a bad max with Wiggins seems a bit harsh anyway. How many good GMs live to regret giving out max deals? Too many to count.
As Enzo mentioned at least thibs wants to come here and he does have legit coaching experience
Questioning thibs because of age and then assuming the Knicks are 3-4 years away as if that even matters, again, unfair.
Dan, He’s far from perfect but thibs isn’t nearly as bad as you’re making him out to be.
I’d be excited if we got towns only because I foolishly want anyone here but he sounds like a clown with this talk. And as stated he hasn’t won jack shit here yet. Off topic but I still think KP is an equal prospect maybe even better. Gun to my head i just might take KP over towns. Towns doesn’t play D at all for what I can tell.
But the age fixation is silly. It's a big reason why Malcolm Brogdon fell to the second round, which as everyone now knows was really stupid.
Don't want Thibideau at all.
It's not silly when discussing his physique and limitations. At 22 comparing him to a 19 year old is silly. Toppin at the same stage as some of these others wasn't even a 1st round pick, he developed. Most of these top talents will too.
don't particularly want Okongwu (for example) but he's 19. What he looks like in 2-3 years is likely MUCH different and he's already viewed as a top 5-7 pick so when discussing Toppin of course his age is relevant. Hayes won't even be 19 until July, Toppin turned 22 in March.
if the Nets trade Dinwiddie in some package for a third star, as has been rumored. All that trash talking he's done - plus the work he did to recruit Kyrie in the first place - and he'll be languishing on some garbage team when the Nets finally field their legit contender. I'd actually root for the Nets more in that scenario.
has mentioned that in the summer of 96 when the Knicks had a bunch of cap space, he offered Jordan a huge contract. But once Reinsdorf came in and gave him $30 million for 96/97, Jordan wasn't going anywhere.
So instead the Knicks used their space on Houston, Childs, and trading Mason for LJ. Even thought LJ had some big moments, they probably should have just kept Mason. And Childs was just a guy.
the Knicks thought they had a deal in place Mason and Oakley for Mourning. Ewing was already 33 but still a star and Mourning was only 24 and a superstar. The Knicks roster wasn't great but a Ewing/Mourning combo could have been interesting.
Not completely sure if it was just to get more money to actually sign with the knicks, but supposedly he heard about it at usa camp and got mad saying it ruined his plans
RE: Might as well throw in the Ewing/Shaq trade talks
our old friend Danilo Gallinari said he’d be open to a return. It probably makes little sense, but I’ve always been fond of him and am glad he’s carved out a nice career. We did just hire an OKC guy....
our old friend Danilo Gallinari said he’d be open to a return. It probably makes little sense, but I’ve always been fond of him and am glad he’s carved out a nice career. We did just hire an OKC guy....
the Knicks thought they had a deal in place Mason and Oakley for Mourning. Ewing was already 33 but still a star and Mourning was only 24 and a superstar. The Knicks roster wasn't great but a Ewing/Mourning combo could have been interesting.
That would have been a steal for the Knicks. Of course it didn’t happen...
Obviously every prospect has warts, but the top guys in this year's Draft have MAJOR flaws:
LaMelo - doesn't give a shit on defense and has shitty shooting mechanics
Anthony Edwards - ridiculously inconsistent and didn't play close to his potential. Sure, he could be Dwyane Wade or Victor Oladipo, but he could just as easily be Dion Waiters.
Cole Anthony - was disappointing at UNC before the injury. Am I the only one who gets Austin Rivers vibes from him?
Obi Toppin - discussed above
James Wiseman Jr. - motor runs hot and cold and has a very limited scoring range. I mean we already have a similar guy in Mitchell Robinson
Tyrese Hallburton - coming off an injury, slight in frame, not a great athlete
I haven't really read up on guys like Killian or Avdija, but maybe trading down would be our best bet even if we do land the first overall pick and have our pick of the litter. Trade down and get future rounders to add to our draft capital (so we would essentially have three first round picks for the next couple of years). I think I'm more comfortable taking guys like Saddiq Bey, Jaden McDaniels, Patrick Williams or Devin Vassell in the late-lottery or late-teens over the top-rated prospects in the top-5. We need a PG in the worst possible way, but we shouldn't force anything.
It wouldn’t shock me if the guy we draft with the Clippers’ pick is better than the lottery pick, like Mitch/Knox. We also don’t know how these new execs feel about the current roster - they may not be as high on Mitch as us fans are. Maybe they take Wiseman or Oturu if they’re BPA, and deal Mitch for backcourt help? Nothing is certain right now.
Knicks were in advanced discussions with budenholzer
has had a much better career than he's been given credit for.
he's been good - but I think he's only been on a good team maybe 1-2 times in his whole career which keeps him off the radar I guess. Never made an all-star team either, however he did make a ton of money and was probably looking at at least one more big contract. Post covid, who knows.
Didn't realize Gallo was only 31 - I figured he was 33/34 by now.
They need to come out of the draft with a lead guard. Haliburton, Hayes or Ball for me.
agree 100% with all of this, though I wouldn't throw the remote they took Wiseman. I do agree its high time we came away with a star lead guard.
Seems like only a few years ago there were rumors that he would "crawl" to MSG to coach the Knicks
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Either Daniel Oturu or Carey from Duke
These guards seem overrated.I like Maledon,but the Knicks usually don't take guys like that,smart teams do
That handle would not work in a game yet, but I'm glad he's working on it. Seems to have decent touch as a shooter too
If your thibs would you want to do that?
Thibs cpachint harden or Irving and durant doesnt seem like a good fit
Don't want Thibideau at all.
Thibs likely isn’t getting all that power and control here and to completely condem the guy for a bad max with Wiggins seems a bit harsh anyway. How many good GMs live to regret giving out max deals? Too many to count.
As Enzo mentioned at least thibs wants to come here and he does have legit coaching experience
Questioning thibs because of age and then assuming the Knicks are 3-4 years away as if that even matters, again, unfair.
Dan, He’s far from perfect but thibs isn’t nearly as bad as you’re making him out to be.
I’d be excited if we got towns only because I foolishly want anyone here but he sounds like a clown with this talk. And as stated he hasn’t won jack shit here yet. Off topic but I still think KP is an equal prospect maybe even better. Gun to my head i just might take KP over towns. Towns doesn’t play D at all for what I can tell.
Would you rather be one of the trams out and start the offseason or do you say what the hell and want them to play?
Would you rather be one of the trams out and start the offseason or do you say what the hell and want them to play?
Even in a fake ass pandemic playoffs, I want the Knicks to play. Why not?
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With the top 12 teams in each conference, knicks would be in this tournament..
Would you rather be one of the trams out and start the offseason or do you say what the hell and want them to play?
Even in a fake ass pandemic playoffs, I want the Knicks to play. Why not?
i agree, does this mean i win my hail mary knicks make the playoffs bet on draft kings?
Don't want Thibideau at all.
It's not silly when discussing his physique and limitations. At 22 comparing him to a 19 year old is silly. Toppin at the same stage as some of these others wasn't even a 1st round pick, he developed. Most of these top talents will too.
Mitch Harden
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So instead the Knicks used their space on Houston, Childs, and trading Mason for LJ. Even thought LJ had some big moments, they probably should have just kept Mason. And Childs was just a guy.
Nelson likes to tell that story but I don't see any way Orlando does that. It's not like it was a slam dunk he was leaving for LA.
it depends which way the offseason goes and price
That would have been a steal for the Knicks. Of course it didn’t happen...
Just depends if Rose sticks with youth movement or if he tries to go all in...
Offseason can go in so many directions
70 game season, so some teams will come back to only play 5 games, that makes little sense to me..
LaMelo - doesn't give a shit on defense and has shitty shooting mechanics
Anthony Edwards - ridiculously inconsistent and didn't play close to his potential. Sure, he could be Dwyane Wade or Victor Oladipo, but he could just as easily be Dion Waiters.
Cole Anthony - was disappointing at UNC before the injury. Am I the only one who gets Austin Rivers vibes from him?
Obi Toppin - discussed above
James Wiseman Jr. - motor runs hot and cold and has a very limited scoring range. I mean we already have a similar guy in Mitchell Robinson
Tyrese Hallburton - coming off an injury, slight in frame, not a great athlete
I haven't really read up on guys like Killian or Avdija, but maybe trading down would be our best bet even if we do land the first overall pick and have our pick of the litter. Trade down and get future rounders to add to our draft capital (so we would essentially have three first round picks for the next couple of years). I think I'm more comfortable taking guys like Saddiq Bey, Jaden McDaniels, Patrick Williams or Devin Vassell in the late-lottery or late-teens over the top-rated prospects in the top-5. We need a PG in the worst possible way, but we shouldn't force anything.
He did, but he'll always be remembered for A. being part of the Melo trade and B. going immediately after Kevin Love and Russel Westbrook.
The amount of guys the Knicks miss by one spot is staggering.
he's been good - but I think he's only been on a good team maybe 1-2 times in his whole career which keeps him off the radar I guess. Never made an all-star team either, however he did make a ton of money and was probably looking at at least one more big contract. Post covid, who knows.