Not if, but when.
According to one of his attorneys, the charges against DeAndre Baker will be dropped and the criminal case in Broward County, Fla., against the Giants cornerback will go away.
“This case is going to be dismissed,’’ Patrick Patel told The Post on Monday. “One day soon, this case is gonna be dismissed.’’
Don't mean to start another baker thread among the many, but thought this deserved it's own thread.
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Which is probably why they both took their time turning themselves in. Those affidavits are the reason why they were granted bail
He, he. Never mind.
and all the BBI mouth breathers can once again stand corrected in the hope that next time they will learn to just shut the fuck up.
Which is probably why they both took their time turning themselves in. Those affidavits are the reason why they were granted bail
Not to be difficult but it feels like an "if" is missing. CBS's legal expert has no way of knowing who the exculpatory affidavits are from; they have not been made public in any fashion. There's no secret lawyer database where they tell each other what affidavits they're in possession of.
BTW, to the lawyers out there, have you ever seen a criminal case dropped because of affidavits? Especially one involving violent crimes?
(yes aggravated assault with a firearm is a violent crime)
I'm not sure I want him cut, but I'm sure he's still an immature child who was skipping team meetings last week even before the alleged incident. So I'm not sure I want him back, either.
I think there's a really good chance that he's a nitwit even if he's not a felon. I don't know if we should be rooting for his guaranteed money to hold up here.
It says to me the police report is just that, what people reported to the police.
Hopefully Baker gets his ass in line, can get on the field, and put this behind him.
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Hopefully, Judge hasn't close the book on him yet.
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There is no case against Baker or Dunbar because the people who accused them are the same ones who signed the affidavits saying they did nothing wrong.
Which is probably why they both took their time turning themselves in. Those affidavits are the reason why they were granted bail
Not to be difficult but it feels like an "if" is missing. CBS's legal expert has no way of knowing who the exculpatory affidavits are from; they have not been made public in any fashion. There's no secret lawyer database where they tell each other what affidavits they're in possession of.
Yes, she does, she talked directly to the lawyers for Dunbar and Baker.
The Judge who granted bail stated that he did so because of those affidavits
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There is no case against Baker or Dunbar because the people who accused them are the same ones who signed the affidavits saying they did nothing wrong.
Which is probably why they both took their time turning themselves in. Those affidavits are the reason why they were granted bail
Not to be difficult but it feels like an "if" is missing. CBS's legal expert has no way of knowing who the exculpatory affidavits are from; they have not been made public in any fashion. There's no secret lawyer database where they tell each other what affidavits they're in possession of.
Yes, she does, she talked directly to the lawyers for Dunbar and Baker.
The Judge who granted bail stated that he did so because of those affidavits
He granted bail but not a summary dismissal.
There's still something there.
They had the CBS legal expert on and she stated unequivocally that there is no case against Baker. That the witnesses who made the claims against him are the same ones who signed the affidavits saying he had not done this. The affidavits were signed prior to Baker turning himself in. Also, another witness (the guy who set the game up) testified to police that Baker and Dunbar did nothing wrong which they, in turn, failed to mention to the Prosecutors.
Supposedly it's a traveling dice game that was at the center of everything. Also, Dunbar's attorney is a state rep in Florida and actually worked side-by-side with the lead Detective when he was a former prosecutor
She also stated that the Police dept claimed it might look into perjury charges
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There is no case against Baker or Dunbar because the people who accused them are the same ones who signed the affidavits saying they did nothing wrong.
Which is probably why they both took their time turning themselves in. Those affidavits are the reason why they were granted bail
Not to be difficult but it feels like an "if" is missing. CBS's legal expert has no way of knowing who the exculpatory affidavits are from; they have not been made public in any fashion. There's no secret lawyer database where they tell each other what affidavits they're in possession of.
Yes, she does, she talked directly to the lawyers for Dunbar and Baker.
The Judge who granted bail stated that he did so because of those affidavits
He granted bail but not a summary dismissal.
There's still something there.
I never claimed he granted a dismissal, I said he granted bail and said he would not have done so without those affidavits
and all the BBI mouth breathers can once again stand corrected in the hope that next time they will learn to just shut the fuck up.
good luck with that. they turned a simple complilation of scouting reports that I posted into food riot this morning.
I hear that's a no nonsense wrecking crew.
Yeah, possibly encouraged by an undisclosed “settlement” before they turned themselves in.
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There is no case against Baker or Dunbar because the people who accused them are the same ones who signed the affidavits saying they did nothing wrong.
Which is probably why they both took their time turning themselves in. Those affidavits are the reason why they were granted bail
Not to be difficult but it feels like an "if" is missing. CBS's legal expert has no way of knowing who the exculpatory affidavits are from; they have not been made public in any fashion. There's no secret lawyer database where they tell each other what affidavits they're in possession of.
Yes, she does, she talked directly to the lawyers for Dunbar and Baker.
The Judge who granted bail stated that he did so because of those affidavits
He granted bail but not a summary dismissal.
There's still something there.
I never claimed he granted a dismissal, I said he granted bail and said he would not have done so without those affidavits
I’m not an expert in the criminal justice system, but isn’t rare not to be granted bail? Particularly when no one was physically hurt?
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There is no case against Baker or Dunbar because the people who accused them are the same ones who signed the affidavits saying they did nothing wrong.
Which is probably why they both took their time turning themselves in. Those affidavits are the reason why they were granted bail
Not to be difficult but it feels like an "if" is missing. CBS's legal expert has no way of knowing who the exculpatory affidavits are from; they have not been made public in any fashion. There's no secret lawyer database where they tell each other what affidavits they're in possession of.
Yes, she does, she talked directly to the lawyers for Dunbar and Baker.
The Judge who granted bail stated that he did so because of those affidavits
He granted bail but not a summary dismissal.
There's still something there.
I never claimed he granted a dismissal, I said he granted bail and said he would not have done so without those affidavits
I’m not an expert in the criminal justice system, but isn’t rare not to be granted bail? Particularly when no one was physically hurt?
Supposedly because he was facing up to 60 years was the reason given that he would not have granted it
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there will still be people that want him cut!
I'm not sure I want him cut, but I'm sure he's still an immature child who was skipping team meetings last week even before the alleged incident. So I'm not sure I want him back, either.
I think there's a really good chance that he's a nitwit even if he's not a felon. I don't know if we should be rooting for his guaranteed money to hold up here.
I'm rooting for him. If he is innocent and absolved i'd like to think its a wake-up call. Maybe this hit at the right time with the right coach who can get him back on track.
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Took a couple days for envelopes to be delivered. Or for reminders to be sent about what happens to snitches. Or some combo thereof.
Shocked.
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Shocked.
You're shocked that he's an idiot? Well, I guess there had to be one.
However, just for fun, what makes sense to me is a shakedown that may have, a least partially, worked. I'm guessing their lawyers worked out the payoff with the accussers. I'm sure the lawyers explained their clients can't pay out if they no longer have a career. The accussers, if they have half a brain, needed something in return because they will likey face charges for lying to police. Alternatively, they are guilty of the charges and the rest is still true (i.e. paid off).
Regardless, as others have said, hopefully the smoke will clear and it really was a wakeup call.
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There is no case against Baker or Dunbar because the people who accused them are the same ones who signed the affidavits saying they did nothing wrong.
Which is probably why they both took their time turning themselves in. Those affidavits are the reason why they were granted bail
Not to be difficult but it feels like an "if" is missing. CBS's legal expert has no way of knowing who the exculpatory affidavits are from; they have not been made public in any fashion. There's no secret lawyer database where they tell each other what affidavits they're in possession of.
Yes, she does, she talked directly to the lawyers for Dunbar and Baker.
The Judge who granted bail stated that he did so because of those affidavits
He granted bail but not a summary dismissal.
There's still something there.
A judge at a bail review hearing never dismisses the case. Their role isn’t to opine on the merits of the case but to determine if the accused is entitled to bail based on specific criteria.
Based on what I have heard of this case, the key issue is likely whether or not Baker brandished a firearm. If witnesses are saying he did, then I think the case goes forward, regardless of what inconsistencies might exist between the affidavits and earlier statements. If witnesses are backing off on this allegation, then a good chance the charges are dismissed.
I don't want him cut; but TRADED is a different matter!
In JJ's system is there room for a player who did not feel it necessary to attend any team sessions so far?!?
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there will still be people that want him cut!
I don't want him cut; but TRADED is a different matter!
In JJ's system is there room for a player who did not feel it necessary to attend any team sessions so far?!?
LOL who is gonna trade for him right now?!
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there will still be people that want him cut!
I'm not sure I want him cut, but I'm sure he's still an immature child who was skipping team meetings last week even before the alleged incident. So I'm not sure I want him back, either.
I think there's a really good chance that he's a nitwit even if he's not a felon. I don't know if we should be rooting for his guaranteed money to hold up here.
dude you're right, he is a child, he just turned 22. Yea i bet he skipped class too.
If he's guilty, cya but if not you people need to chill the fuck out and realize his off the field antics isn't your problem so chill the fuck out.
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Shocked.
You're shocked that he's an idiot? Well, I guess there had to be one.
this fucking guy. lol
Additionally, one of the men that the police they spoke to that night specifically mentioned that Baker was not involved. The police left that out of their reports. That's a problem for the prosecution.
They can't even say specifically if Baker had a gun there because all of the witnesses' statements are invalid.
Like many here, after hearing the initial accusations (robbery, guns, gambling, etc) I was angry and expected Baker to be gone. Now, it seems as if there is nothing here and nothing for Goodell to punish these players over. He can't suspend them for conduct detrimental, when there is no evidence that anything happened. The attorneys making the case that they were victims of a sham is, at minimum, a plausible scenario.
Personally, I have no idea what really happened but will try to judge this guy by his behavior moving forward.
Finally, for those complaining Baker has not been participating in the virtual team sessions (which I agree is both a mistake, and pathetic) aren't these sessions considered voluntary?
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there will still be people that want him cut!
I don't want him cut; but TRADED is a different matter!
In JJ's system is there room for a player who did not feel it necessary to attend any team sessions so far?!?
Maybe we can get that third round pick back...
Additionally, one of the men that the police they spoke to that night specifically mentioned that Baker was not involved. The police left that out of their reports. That's a problem for the prosecution.
They can't even say specifically if Baker had a gun there because all of the witnesses' statements are invalid.
Like many here, after hearing the initial accusations (robbery, guns, gambling, etc) I was angry and expected Baker to be gone. Now, it seems as if there is nothing here and nothing for Goodell to punish these players over. He can't suspend them for conduct detrimental, when there is no evidence that anything happened. The attorneys making the case that they were victims of a sham is, at minimum, a plausible scenario.
Personally, I have no idea what really happened but will try to judge this guy by his behavior moving forward.
Finally, for those complaining Baker has not been participating in the virtual team sessions (which I agree is both a mistake, and pathetic) aren't these sessions considered voluntary?
I wouldn’t count out a suspension. The new CBA actually allows suspensions to be handed down as soon as an arrest warrant is issued, regardless of the outcome of the legal process.
and all the BBI mouth breathers can once again stand corrected in the hope that next time they will learn to just shut the fuck up.
Dream On!! Look at what's happened here in the span of three days. Baker gets arrested and half the discussion was about how negligent the team was to trade up for a guy with a ton of red flags and a career that lasted one year.
You'd think time and again after rushing to judgment on things and being often proved wrong that people would sit back and let things play out. Hell, even now we have no fucking clue what's going to happen - but we know what's happened here.
Baker was a wasted pick, the scouts and Gettleman ignored red flags that EVERYONE knew about, and Bobby Abacus even gave a few multi-paragraph rants about how analytics fucked us again (if you are wondering what the fuck the connection was, you weren't alone).
And people won't learn. They'll do it again next time.