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DanMetroMan : 5/19/2020 2:22 pm
Jim Trotter
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BREAKING: NFL owners have voted to approve the resolution that would prevent teams from blocking assistant coaches from interviewing for coordinator positions, per sources. This is an important step.
Too bad this didn't happen two years ago.  
Blue Dream : 5/19/2020 2:30 pm : link
We would have had a real OC IN Stefanski instead of a puppet like Shula. The Shurmur years might have been slightly less awful.
We'll see if people still like it  
Sneakers O'toole : 5/19/2020 2:34 pm : link
When their entire team's staff gets poached, which will happen to succesful teams.

It's the best proposal they put forward, but I'm not sold either
Wont  
jtfuoco : 5/19/2020 2:56 pm : link
This help minority coaches like Beienemy who's offense might be great but has the shadow of Reid stealing the light.
Yes, it could  
Sneakers O'toole : 5/19/2020 3:02 pm : link
It's got some upside as a proposal. I've sometimes thought it was the right direction for the league fir quite some time watching promising young coaches get deniwd advancement opportunities.

But my feelings on the subject are mixed.
Exuse my typos  
Sneakers O'toole : 5/19/2020 3:03 pm : link
I'm on my phone. I suck at texting. My posts are always shorter though. Bet some like that!
this was overdue  
Torrag : 5/19/2020 3:05 pm : link
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RE: Wont  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/19/2020 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14906862 jtfuoco said:
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This help minority coaches like Beienemy who's offense might be great but has the shadow of Reid stealing the light.

Not particularly. Bieniemy is already a coordinator, so the only jobs he can interview for without permission are head coaching positions. That was already the case for him, so this alone doesn't help his particular scenario.

It does help him that teams now need to interview two external minority candidates. It's hard to imagine that he wouldn't be on almost every team's short list in that context.

The thing they really need to figure out a solution for is how to allow candidates to interview for vacancies even while their current team is in the playoffs, or to suspend the entire interview/hiring process until after the Super Bowl altogether. Until that is corrected, the assistants on the best teams will always be at a disadvantage (which worked out in the Giants' favor with Spags in 2007, IIRC).
isn't there a cap on pay based coaching level  
bc4life : 5/19/2020 3:10 pm : link
HCs get so much, ACs can only be paid so much, etc. ?

I would favor a hiring freeze until after the Super Bowl  
Sneakers O'toole : 5/19/2020 3:11 pm : link
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RE: Too bad this didn't happen two years ago.  
Victor in CT : 5/19/2020 3:17 pm : link
In comment 14906830 Blue Dream said:
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We would have had a real OC IN Stefanski instead of a puppet like Shula. The Shurmur years might have been slightly less awful.


be careful what you wish for. "slightly less awful" might mean that Shurmur is still here.
it's a good idea. but for Bbienemy, the rule about assitants not  
Victor in CT : 5/19/2020 3:18 pm : link
being able to interview until the team is done or SB break week was the killer. That's the one that need to be changed.
He used a poor example  
Sneakers O'toole : 5/19/2020 3:24 pm : link
But the gist of his post is true. It will help coaches step out of the shadows. There are always assistants with heat to their names in league circles. The league never wanted poaching to this extent. And it's a valid concern
RE: I would favor a hiring freeze until after the Super Bowl  
ron mexico : 5/19/2020 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14906878 Sneakers O'toole said:
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Not a bad idea
RE: We'll see if people still like it  
FStubbs : 5/19/2020 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14906837 Sneakers O'toole said:
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When their entire team's staff gets poached, which will happen to succesful teams.

It's the best proposal they put forward, but I'm not sold either


This is how the NFL operated for years and the good teams managed.
RE: RE: Too bad this didn't happen two years ago.  
FStubbs : 5/19/2020 4:18 pm : link
In comment 14906882 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 14906830 Blue Dream said:


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We would have had a real OC IN Stefanski instead of a puppet like Shula. The Shurmur years might have been slightly less awful.



be careful what you wish for. "slightly less awful" might mean that Shurmur is still here.


The scary thing is if the Giants knew that we'd have this COVID-19 offseason, they almost assuredly would've kept Shurmur to keep some level of organizational "continuity".
RE: RE: We'll see if people still like it  
Sneakers O'toole : 5/19/2020 4:23 pm : link
In comment 14906929 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14906837 Sneakers O'toole said:


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When their entire team's staff gets poached, which will happen to succesful teams.

It's the best proposal they put forward, but I'm not sold either



This is how the NFL operated for years and the good teams managed.


In what way is this the way league operayed for years?
RE: RE: RE: Too bad this didn't happen two years ago.  
section125 : 5/19/2020 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14906931 FStubbs said:
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The scary thing is if the Giants knew that we'd have this COVID-19 offseason, they almost assuredly would've kept Shurmur to keep some level of organizational "continuity".


What?
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Dankbeerman : 5/19/2020 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14906931 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14906882 Victor in CT said:


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In comment 14906830 Blue Dream said:


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We would have had a real OC IN Stefanski instead of a puppet like Shula. The Shurmur years might have been slightly less awful.



be careful what you wish for. "slightly less awful" might mean that Shurmur is still here.



The scary thing is if the Giants knew that we'd have this COVID-19 offseason, they almost assuredly would've kept Shurmur to keep some level of organizational "continuity".



I eould take it the other way and say we are in a better spot coming to this crisis with a new regime. There is no normal now so when we come back its a clean slate for everyone and I think Judge will have the chance to fully grab control. Not dwaling with players not showing up for workouts or otas and all the BS thay comes with it.
Giants got a head start under Shurmur...  
morrison40 : 5/20/2020 12:37 am : link
The OL was instructed by mgmt not to BLOCK ANYONE
RE: Wont  
djstat : 5/20/2020 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14906862 jtfuoco said:
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This help minority coaches like Beienemy who's offense might be great but has the shadow of Reid stealing the light.
Bienemy does not get to call plays, but it is a travesty he is not a HC. I would have taken him over judge gladly and I do like Judge
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