We need to know if this guy is a winner or not. Also, kinda shows lack of commitment if he left mid game (unless he was blowing the other team out, then he has good character).
when his friend (the older gentleman) got him on the phone that night and handed the phone to the detective on the scene.
This was before the arrest warrant had issued.
If he had stayed on the phone long enough to ask "So, what's this about?" and then hung up, that would be one thing.
But to not even be curious enough to ask the question, when you supposedly left at the first sign of trouble? Not buying that.
Whether the Florida State's Attorney will decide it has a case here that it can prove beyond reasonable doubt, I have no idea. But I do believe DB knew very well why the detective wanted to talk to him.
when his friend (the older gentleman) got him on the phone that night and handed the phone to the detective on the scene.
This was before the arrest warrant had issued.
If he had stayed on the phone long enough to ask "So, what's this about?" and then hung up, that would be one thing.
But to not even be curious enough to ask the question, when you supposedly left at the first sign of trouble? Not buying that.
Whether the Florida State's Attorney will decide it has a case here that it can prove beyond reasonable doubt, I have no idea. But I do believe DB knew very well why the detective wanted to talk to him.
I would have hung up and said nothing too. Ther first thing you do is get a lawyer. Remember anything you say can and will be used against you. He was in a place with ileagl activity going on. Obtain a good lawyer and have all contact initiated through him.
this story has become bizarre. If he is proven innocent,I sincerely hope that Baker concentrates on playing football.
It will be interesting to see how the Giants handle Baker in the future if innocent.
You would have to make arrangements to see if they have that amount on hand. I did a renovation on my house and to keep cost down paid the contractor in cash. The bank said they need a couple days notice to have the cars there.
when his friend (the older gentleman) got him on the phone that night and handed the phone to the detective on the scene.
This was before the arrest warrant had issued.
If he had stayed on the phone long enough to ask "So, what's this about?" and then hung up, that would be one thing.
But to not even be curious enough to ask the question, when you supposedly left at the first sign of trouble? Not buying that.
Whether the Florida State's Attorney will decide it has a case here that it can prove beyond reasonable doubt, I have no idea. But I do believe DB knew very well why the detective wanted to talk to him.
One could also question how his accusers/recanters knew he had a gun?
Says bank records show he took out $1500 two days before. So, that should debunk the lost $70,000
If I have $10k in a safe in my bedroom and I withdraw $500 from the ATM, how does the ATM receipt prove that I didn't lose $10k?
I'm not saying that he did lose $70k; I'm just pointing out that his ATM activity isn't really a great measure of proof that he didn't.
This whole saga is bizarre. Even if he's innocent of the allegations, this is still a kid who was demonstrating a very serious need for structure - skipping meetings all week and going to a party that featured an illegal dice game during a stay-at-home advisory representing some pretty poor judgment on his part.
The criminal accusations are almost just window dressing for the underlying maturity issues that Baker has continued to display. I just need to do a better job of reminding myself that he's 22, and as a general rule, 22 year olds tend to be idiots.
They can either back it up or their client is screwed. This story is absolutely nothing like what was originally told and for Baker’s people to claim this then thIs is either a provable “get out of jail free” card or the end of Baker’s career. So, lets see what’s next.
RE: you dont normally go to a traveling dice game to play Madden
this story has become bizarre. If he is proven innocent,I sincerely hope that Baker concentrates on playing football.
It will be interesting to see how the Giants handle Baker in the future if innocent.
I am still in the camp of they sound guilty or guilty adjacent (maybe more the latter) .... but that is actually plausible IF he really did get his head crack for 70K the day before .... just there to kick it /w Dunbar and what-not
on the stoops in Brooklyn ... If I’m going high stakes gambling in Broward County (even if it’s in a gated community), am I carrying $70k in cash or in tradeable commodities ?
I understand what you are saying. I doubt knowing the area they are in that they are keeping that type of cash at home. I could be wrong but that’s my guess. Also, it says the house was in a gated community and they had to go through a gate to get out so there goes the getaway theory. It also says Baker wasn’t driving. It just all seems way made up, again just my guess.
As a fan, I'm hoping this all turns out to be a big pile of
nothing and he has an opportunity to turn his career around with the Giants.
Patrick Grahams defense is perfect for him. Lots of man coverage and much easier terminology than Bettchers shit scheme.
He showed improvement down the stretch last year. Hopefully this experience coupled with a coaching staff that can instill some accountability will get him moving in the right direction going forward.
And kept the default playbook, then he would be using Bettcher's playbook which would be another strike against his judgement. You have to at least change playbooks.
nothing and he has an opportunity to turn his career around with the Giants.
Patrick Grahams defense is perfect for him. Lots of man coverage and much easier terminology than Bettchers shit scheme.
He showed improvement down the stretch last year. Hopefully this experience coupled with a coaching staff that can instill some accountability will get him moving in the right direction going forward.
"Whether I'm being told the truth or the police are being told the truth, those two stories are completely different," he said. "They've sworn under penalty of perjury to both versions of events. So when I say they're liars, they're liars. They either lied under oath to me or they lied under oath to the police. Either way, their credibility is shot."
And kept the default playbook, then he would be using Bettcher's playbook which would be another strike against his judgement. You have to at least change playbooks.
Well, at least that means he would have learned the playbook :) (I haven't played Madden in years, but the defensive playbooks used to be very vanilla.)
LOL you snarky bastard!
They must have updated the game since I last played.
They must have updated the game since I last played.
Well, while he was at the house playing and the cops were called his Madden rating dropped to 0 immediately. It was pretty scary for him.
This was before the arrest warrant had issued.
If he had stayed on the phone long enough to ask "So, what's this about?" and then hung up, that would be one thing.
But to not even be curious enough to ask the question, when you supposedly left at the first sign of trouble? Not buying that.
Whether the Florida State's Attorney will decide it has a case here that it can prove beyond reasonable doubt, I have no idea. But I do believe DB knew very well why the detective wanted to talk to him.
This was before the arrest warrant had issued.
If he had stayed on the phone long enough to ask "So, what's this about?" and then hung up, that would be one thing.
But to not even be curious enough to ask the question, when you supposedly left at the first sign of trouble? Not buying that.
Whether the Florida State's Attorney will decide it has a case here that it can prove beyond reasonable doubt, I have no idea. But I do believe DB knew very well why the detective wanted to talk to him.
I would have hung up and said nothing too. Ther first thing you do is get a lawyer. Remember anything you say can and will be used against you. He was in a place with ileagl activity going on. Obtain a good lawyer and have all contact initiated through him.
No, no, no, I was in Anchorage, Alaska.
No, I was in Casper, Wyoming, in the lobby of a Howard Johnson's and I was wearing a pink carnation.
No, no, no, I was in Anchorage, Alaska.
No, I was in Casper, Wyoming, in the lobby of a Howard Johnson's and I was wearing a pink carnation.
Is this moron #1? Put moron #2 on the phone.
It will be interesting to see how the Giants handle Baker in the future if innocent.
Why? He could have had cash on hand prior to going to the bank.
I don't know what to think of everything, too much jumbled info that doesn't seem 100% verified.
You can not just go to a bank and take out 70k, the bank wont allow it..
This was before the arrest warrant had issued.
If he had stayed on the phone long enough to ask "So, what's this about?" and then hung up, that would be one thing.
But to not even be curious enough to ask the question, when you supposedly left at the first sign of trouble? Not buying that.
Whether the Florida State's Attorney will decide it has a case here that it can prove beyond reasonable doubt, I have no idea. But I do believe DB knew very well why the detective wanted to talk to him.
If I have $10k in a safe in my bedroom and I withdraw $500 from the ATM, how does the ATM receipt prove that I didn't lose $10k?
I'm not saying that he did lose $70k; I'm just pointing out that his ATM activity isn't really a great measure of proof that he didn't.
This whole saga is bizarre. Even if he's innocent of the allegations, this is still a kid who was demonstrating a very serious need for structure - skipping meetings all week and going to a party that featured an illegal dice game during a stay-at-home advisory representing some pretty poor judgment on his part.
The criminal accusations are almost just window dressing for the underlying maturity issues that Baker has continued to display. I just need to do a better job of reminding myself that he's 22, and as a general rule, 22 year olds tend to be idiots.
It will be interesting to see how the Giants handle Baker in the future if innocent.
I am still in the camp of they sound guilty or guilty adjacent (maybe more the latter) .... but that is actually plausible IF he really did get his head crack for 70K the day before .... just there to kick it /w Dunbar and what-not
Ok I laughed, I did.
Patrick Grahams defense is perfect for him. Lots of man coverage and much easier terminology than Bettchers shit scheme.
He showed improvement down the stretch last year. Hopefully this experience coupled with a coaching staff that can instill some accountability will get him moving in the right direction going forward.
Patrick Grahams defense is perfect for him. Lots of man coverage and much easier terminology than Bettchers shit scheme.
He showed improvement down the stretch last year. Hopefully this experience coupled with a coaching staff that can instill some accountability will get him moving in the right direction going forward.
Agreed
They also formally pled not guilty Monday night. Not sure how important that is but didn’t see it posted anywhere.
They also formally pled not guilty Monday night. Not sure how important that is but didn’t see it posted anywhere.
Certainly a saliant question.
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I was in Boise, Idaho.
No, no, no, I was in Anchorage, Alaska.
No, I was in Casper, Wyoming, in the lobby of a Howard Johnson's and I was wearing a pink carnation.
Is this moron #1? Put moron #2 on the phone.
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Well, at least that means he would have learned the playbook :) (I haven't played Madden in years, but the defensive playbooks used to be very vanilla.)