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Lawrence Taylor Run Defense

EricJ : 5/19/2020 10:11 pm
Most of the highlights we see are his sacks. This video shows just how dominant he was in the run game. This is actually more impressive than his sack highlight videos.

For those of you who are too young to have watched him as an adult... enjoy.
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I may be a bit biased  
Marty866b : 5/19/2020 10:32 pm : link
But that is the greatest defensive player that has ever played. No one is even close to him.
Dang!!!  
Chris in San Diego : 5/19/2020 10:35 pm : link
He was pretty good.
Watching him chase down runningbacks was a thing of beauty  
Sneakers O'toole : 5/19/2020 10:35 pm : link
Its like those nature videos where the big cats take down their prey
RE: I may be a bit biased  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/19/2020 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14907141 Marty866b said:
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But that is the greatest defensive player that has ever played. No one is even close to him.


The only people who disagree are idiots. There are some guys close but he was the best. Not even Butkus or Reggie White bad teams putting 3 guys to just handle them.

He was the best football player  
Phil in LA : 5/19/2020 10:35 pm : link
I ever saw.
I watch this every year or so  
Mike from SI : 5/19/2020 10:36 pm : link
because it's so amazing. Sad I was too young to see it live.
Still dream of the thought of Reggie white  
Payasdaddy : 5/19/2020 10:45 pm : link
Playing with LT
If George young could’ve worked draft better with usfl guys, he could have been ours
Seriously how the heck could you control those two?
I wouldn’t know how to draw up plays vs them. May need half your offense to block them
That whole defense  
section125 : 5/19/2020 10:46 pm : link
was amazing. Taylor was unblockable 1 on 1.

Yet how many plays did you see Jim Burt, Leonard Marshall, George Martin and Carl Banks right there, too.
RE: He was the best football player  
dune69 : 5/19/2020 10:49 pm : link
In comment 14907148 Phil in LA said:
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I ever saw.



Agree Phil. This has been my contention since his career ended. I watched every one of these plays live on tv and so I am not surprised by his dominance but I'm always amazed to see his speed, violence, and ability to beat every block and not miss many tackles. I miss watching this player.
RE: He was the best football player  
Matt M. : 5/19/2020 11:12 pm : link
In comment 14907148 Phil in LA said:
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I ever saw.
+1 without a doubt. Nobody has come close and that isn't hyperbole.
guess the outcome of this play  
bluepepper : 5/20/2020 12:10 am : link
that's two Redskins OL and John Riggins vs one defender.



No gain of course (actually a yard because Taylor popped him up in the air and it took him awhile to come down).
eh..botched the picture  
bluepepper : 5/20/2020 12:10 am : link
it's at 4:26 in the video.
You notice almost all of those running plays were away from him  
PatersonPlank : 5/20/2020 12:25 am : link
teams wouldn't run at him.

It was the trend to not block the outside LB on the other side of the running play because they would never get in the play. In Taylors first practice, he immediately starting doing what you see there, running down the RB from behind. People were amazed. This caused a whole new blocking dynamic because you had to take of him, even if the play went the other way
All I can say  
uconngiant : 5/20/2020 12:55 am : link
Is the best of the best period
It's absolutely amazing  
montanagiant : 5/20/2020 1:16 am : link
This is going to sound weird but it's true:
Even when he's blocked, he's really not blocked..

That is the only way to describe it
I use to get mad when the Giants stopped the other team  
JohnB : 5/20/2020 2:35 am : link
because it meant LT was walking off the field.
I loved watching LT.
LT was  
OC2.0 : 5/20/2020 2:37 am : link
Well... we all know. That whole D was swarming to the ball. A beautiful thing to see.
RE: Still dream of the thought of Reggie white  
Vanzetti : 5/20/2020 4:37 am : link
In comment 14907152 Payasdaddy said:
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Playing with LT
If George young could’ve worked draft better with usfl guys, he could have been ours
Seriously how the heck could you control those two?
I wouldn’t know how to draw up plays vs them. May need half your offense to block them


Probably would have won two more SBs. GY screwed up. Was that when he wanted to draft Zimmerman?
RE: I may be a bit biased  
Klaatu : 5/20/2020 6:30 am : link
In comment 14907141 Marty866b said:
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But that is the greatest defensive player that has ever played. No one is even close to him.


I take nothing away from LT, but I'd say that Deacon Jones is pretty close to him.

In his time, Jones was just as dominant a defender as LT was in his.
It was so awesome watching games in his prime.  
jsuds : 5/20/2020 6:45 am : link
when the defense became so dominant.

Opposing offenses regularly went backwards.
RE: I may be a bit biased  
M.S. : 5/20/2020 6:58 am : link
In comment 14907141 Marty866b said:
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But that is the greatest defensive player that has ever played. No one is even close to him.

That's not biased.

And when you throw in that he changed the very definition of his position, well, that cements it.

G.O.A.T.
RE: RE: I may be a bit biased  
LS : 5/20/2020 7:24 am : link
In comment 14907192 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14907141 Marty866b said:


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But that is the greatest defensive player that has ever played. No one is even close to him.



I take nothing away from LT, but I'd say that Deacon Jones is pretty close to him.

In his time, Jones was just as dominant a defender as LT was in his.

Imagine LT if he was able to use the head slap.
RE: I may be a bit biased  
Capt. Don : 5/20/2020 7:30 am : link
In comment 14907141 Marty866b said:
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But that is the greatest defensive player that has ever played. No one is even close to him.


Reggie White is close.
I had the privilege of watching this man play his entire career  
Sec 103 : 5/20/2020 7:42 am : link
Every so often there be a "new' LT, not a chance, no one and I mean no one has even come close to the level of play this man brought to the filed on a daily basis. Eben in his last game in 93, still a formidable force, but far from his peak, in the Cowboys home game in Giants stadium, they were still triple teaming him.
If you were foolish enough to not game plan for HIM, he would disrupt your entire offense almost single handed. An amazing, amazing player. I don't ever think we will see another like him in our generation. The game has changed too much, and quite frankly he probably would have gotten unnecessary roughness calls against him now which would mask the terror he brought to opposing QBs, Linemen, TEs, and RBs.
Too bad for the character flaws, imagine if he were as saintly as Jeter or Eli?
I've heard 40 time estimates all over the place  
Biteymax22 : 5/20/2020 8:03 am : link
But I've never seen a LB play anywhere close to his speed. He honestly looks like a madden cheat code out there.
Like the tape....comments  
WideRight : 5/20/2020 8:14 am : link
Highlight reel was a little long, which speaks volumes.

I was a little dissapointed because, the majority were just foolish teams trying to run away from LT. Everyone always thinks you could never run against Carl Banks. This tape reveals the real reason.

Thats why convention at the time was to run at LT, because anything else was completely futile. And in that regard some of the most fun tape to watch is LT and Leonard Marshall holding up the entire opposing OL on runs directed against them. Real football.

My sympathies to those who never had the pleasure
RE: I may be a bit biased  
Big Blue '56 : 5/20/2020 8:21 am : link
In comment 14907141 Marty866b said:
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But that is the greatest defensive player that has ever played. No one is even close to him.


He’s already been acknowledged as the best ever by the NFL. He might even be the best player, period.
I’m pushing 40  
KDavies : 5/20/2020 8:24 am : link
And he’s the best football player period I’ve seen in my life notwithstanding QBs. Really don’t know how to compare a player like LT to a QB
LT really spoiled a lot of us, did the guy  
barens : 5/20/2020 8:40 am : link
ever miss a tackle? Watching that video, what amazes me is that a lot of teams didn't bother to put a backside blocker on him, and he's always chase the play down.
He was simply unblockable ...  
Spider56 : 5/20/2020 9:02 am : link
Instinct, reaction, quickness, speed, power and passion. One of the rare types that could takeover a game on willpower alone. Man, he was fun to watch. The audio of him talking to players after he takes them down is priceless.
he was incredible. and made All-Pro in 1983 playing ILB  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2020 9:10 am : link
when Harry Carson went down with a knee injury
That was the best run defense I ever saw.  
x meadowlander : 5/20/2020 9:18 am : link
Dominance.

Marshall was an All-Pro, Burt and Martin very stout against the run, excellent at maintaining their gaps, allowing the All-World linebackers to make plays - Harry Carson was already an All-Pro by the time LT arrived, you cannot overstate that units greatness.

Opponents realized running up the gut was futile - a brick wall, running outside worse. Banks could stand up any Tackle or TE, would consistently blow up double teams. LT would consistently catch backs running away from him for losses and strip fumbles. Off-tackle plays, sweeps usually feature pulling linemen and do NOT block that backside LB - LT FEASTED.

Teams actually started running AT Taylor - felt the back had a better chance if he could see Taylor.

It didn't work.



RE: I've heard 40 time estimates all over the place  
Johnny5 : 5/20/2020 9:21 am : link
In comment 14907217 Biteymax22 said:
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But I've never seen a LB play anywhere close to his speed. He honestly looks like a madden cheat code out there.

Yeah he was fast, but he also played fast mentally. That was the thing I always remember most about him, he wasn't just fast, he was naturally very strong, his football instincts were ridiculous and he had no fear of contact or committing to a play. You can see how he just gives himself up physically to make the tackle. That defense was so much fun to watch.
RE: That was the best run defense I ever saw.  
Spider56 : 5/20/2020 9:21 am : link
In comment 14907267 x meadowlander said:
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Dominance.

Marshall was an All-Pro, Burt and Martin very stout against the run, excellent at maintaining their gaps, allowing the All-World linebackers to make plays - Harry Carson was already an All-Pro by the time LT arrived, you cannot overstate that units greatness.

Opponents realized running up the gut was futile - a brick wall, running outside worse. Banks could stand up any Tackle or TE, would consistently blow up double teams. LT would consistently catch backs running away from him for losses and strip fumbles. Off-tackle plays, sweeps usually feature pulling linemen and do NOT block that backside LB - LT FEASTED.

Teams actually started running AT Taylor - felt the back had a better chance if he could see Taylor.
It didn't work


And these guys were coached by the GOAT ... in retrospect, it doesn’t seem fair... but yet they only won 2 SBs
RE: RE: I've heard 40 time estimates all over the place  
barens : 5/20/2020 9:36 am : link
In comment 14907269 Johnny5 said:
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In comment 14907217 Biteymax22 said:


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But I've never seen a LB play anywhere close to his speed. He honestly looks like a madden cheat code out there.


Yeah he was fast, but he also played fast mentally. That was the thing I always remember most about him, he wasn't just fast, he was naturally very strong, his football instincts were ridiculous and he had no fear of contact or committing to a play. You can see how he just gives himself up physically to make the tackle. That defense was so much fun to watch.


He really wasn't that fast, nor did he have extraordinary strength, he just had the strongest will, was a competitive freak, and was the most instinctual player I've ever seen.
RE: Like the tape....comments  
BMac : 5/20/2020 9:38 am : link
In comment 14907223 WideRight said:
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Highlight reel was a little long, which speaks volumes.

I was a little dissapointed because, the majority were just foolish teams trying to run away from LT. Everyone always thinks you could never run against Carl Banks. This tape reveals the real reason.

Thats why convention at the time was to run at LT, because anything else was completely futile. And in that regard some of the most fun tape to watch is LT and Leonard Marshall holding up the entire opposing OL on runs directed against them. Real football.

My sympathies to those who never had the pleasure


"You're never going to make a living running sweeps at Lawrence Taylor."

-- John Madden
Best  
PaulN : 5/20/2020 9:50 am : link
Football player I ever saw, just listen to Belichick talk about him, his praise for Brady isn't even as much as his praise for Taylor. George Young selected Zimmeman instead of White when the NFL had that USFL draft or whatever it was called, had to trade him for 2 second round picks because he refused to play for the Giants, they did draft Pepper, Collins, and Howard instead, sorry, 3 second round picks for Zimmerman, he was a long time all pro tackle and hall of famer, he was a great player, and we were a weak OLine, but we did okay with those three, nothing to criticize.
RE: RE: RE: I've heard 40 time estimates all over the place  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2020 9:54 am : link
In comment 14907289 barens said:
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He really wasn't that fast, nor did he have extraordinary strength


I don't think I agree with that. His track time 40 may not have been exceptional (although it was still pretty fast for an LB of that era) but he played incredibly fast on the field.

And the way he routinely ragdolled OTs, I'm gonna say he was incredibly strong and powerful, particularly when you take into account that he never lifted weights.
regarding Zimmerman and GY  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2020 9:58 am : link
George Young wasn't real big on players dictating to him. He probably got his dander up about Zimmerman telling him that he would never play for the Giants, making him even more determined to draft Zimmerman. And it's not as if he were wrong in his assessment of Zimmerman's ability, since he's in Canton today.
"not that fast or strong".right. Thanksgiving 1982 OPENED IT UP  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2020 9:59 am : link
on the WRs and Billy Sims chasing him. Pushed Joe Jacoby over like a rag doll so much they moved him to RT. And he never got the credit he deserved for his football intelligence
Best player I ever saw.  
smshmth8690 : 5/20/2020 10:02 am : link
That's player, not just LB. Any positional arguments, mostly for SF players, Momtana, Rice, Lott are moot. Same goes for Singletary, and Payton.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I've heard 40 time estimates all over the place  
PatersonPlank : 5/20/2020 10:09 am : link
In comment 14907319 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14907289 barens said:


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He really wasn't that fast, nor did he have extraordinary strength



I don't think I agree with that. His track time 40 may not have been exceptional (although it was still pretty fast for an LB of that era) but he played incredibly fast on the field.

And the way he routinely ragdolled OTs, I'm gonna say he was incredibly strong and powerful, particularly when you take into account that he never lifted weights.


Most sights say he ran a 4.53 which is plenty fast. In fact SI made a big thing when Clowney was coming out because he ran the same 40 time as LT.

So you have a guy who is an athletic freak, has 4.5 speed, and is 6'3" 245 give or take. Plus as we all know, combo measurements don't make a player
he was the best I ever saw  
Paulie Walnuts : 5/20/2020 10:19 am : link
the man could literally win games on his own out of force of his will
a good definition of greatness is to make those around you great.... Taylor did that

he wrecked teams, I mean wrecked them

the front 7 in 1986 Plus Mark Collns was HOF defense.

that defense HATED to give up 1 YARD, Hated it

rewatch the 1986 Playoff with SF, the Giants Defense destroyed them and because of all the attention Taylor got, other players would get free and make plays

I got to see it all and I'm still in awe

Banks was the only one who came close on the Giants

My Dad would put Taylor up with Jim Brown, as the 2 best he ever saw
I love these LT videos  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/20/2020 10:31 am : link
that this youtube poster provides. As much as I love the LT Run Defense vid that EricJ posted, my favorite is actually the LT Goal-Line Defense vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQrQh-dueKM

His closing speed is unlike anything I've seen. The fact that he's the "deep safety" in a lot of the Goal-line highlights shows how much respect the coaching staff had for his sideline-to-sideline speed/tackling ability. Even if you transported Von Miller to Khalil Mack or the Bosas to the 1980s, I don't think they would have the sideline-to-sideline speed to play the deep safety position at the Goal-line like LT did.

He stands out so much from a strength/speed/hustle standpoint on these vids. All that crazy speed I mentioned above yet he is out there throwing Lomas Brown and Joe Jacoby around with realtive ease.

I think you could make an argument for Reggie White as the Defensive GOAT based on his longevity. Reggie Whit at age 35 was the defensive MVP of a Super Bowl team in '96, where he was absolutely dominant in the big game. Reggie White was league DPOY at the age of 37 in '98. Whereas LT was done being an impact player at the age of 31 and retired at the age of 34.

But in terms of defensive impact at their best, I don't think anyone is on LT's level. His versatility forced the game to evolve in order to limit his greatness from single-handedly wrecking games.
Ironic...  
MarkT : 5/20/2020 10:47 am : link
Lt was the best defensive player ever, yet many of the youthful BBIers would cut him in a heartbeat, simply because of his off the field distractions and problems. He never would have had the chance to play. Fantasy football and keyboard courage at it's best...
RE: Best player I ever saw.  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2020 10:57 am : link
In comment 14907337 smshmth8690 said:
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That's player, not just LB. Any positional arguments, mostly for SF players, Momtana, Rice, Lott are moot. Same goes for Singletary, and Payton.


Agrred! He's the best football player of my lifetime and its not close.
LT was dominant at everything  
Torrag : 5/20/2020 10:59 am : link
That's why he's the greatest football player of all time.

You couldn't run at him. You couldn't run away from him. They created entire pass blocking schemes just to keep him from wrecking the game...and it slowed him down a bit some weeks. He could cover. He had good hands. He was the strongest. He was the fastest. He had elite instincts. He could sniff out a screen or other BS.

It wasn't fair.



LT was dominant at everything  
Torrag : 5/20/2020 11:00 am : link
That's why he's the greatest football player of all time.

You couldn't run at him. You couldn't run away from him. They created entire pass blocking schemes just to keep him from wrecking the game...and it slowed him down a bit some weeks. He could cover. He had good hands. He was the strongest. He was the fastest. He had elite instincts. He could sniff out a screen or other BS.

It wasn't fair.



I think LT's maniacal style is why he didn't have the longevity  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2020 11:02 am : link
of a Reggie White. He played with absolutely no regard for his own well-being and it took a toll. LT never made "business decisions".

Didn't help that he never trained at all.
RE: I think LT's maniacal style is why he didn't have the longevity  
x meadowlander : 5/20/2020 11:27 am : link
In comment 14907403 Greg from LI said:
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of a Reggie White. He played with absolutely no regard for his own well-being and it took a toll. LT never made "business decisions".

Didn't help that he never trained at all.
LT played at a very high level for 6 seasons, then was still a very good LB for the rest of his career. You really think there was some way 1982 LT blowing up tackles and rag dolling RB's should have still been happening in 91-92?

Reggie White's longevity a good measuring stick for any player. And Reggie White, as great as he was - NEVER played at LT's level. Noone did.
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