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NFT: HS Sports question- flipping baseball/football

Matt in SGS : 5/21/2020 2:05 pm
So there is a discussion on going (at least in Northern NJ) in talking about high school sports and what can be held this fall.

My son is a cross country runner going into his senior year and it looks like his sport is being deemed low risk and will carry on more or less as is this September/October (maybe they start a little later).

But football is being labelled high risk due to the contact, reuse of equipment, etc.

I was talking to the high school football coach and he said the discussion that is going on right now is to swap seasons this year with baseball and football. Considering in Northeast it doesn't really start to get cold until the early part of November, that shouldn't impact high school baseball. And as we hope for more medical advances, the move would be to start football in the Spring.

Thoughts?

Weather is terrible for baseball in the fall.  
GiantGolfer : 5/21/2020 2:56 pm : link
Once October rolls around the temperature drops and fields are harder to maintain. Unless the season is done by mid-October, I’d hate that move.
It most certainly can start to get cold before November  
Matt M. : 5/21/2020 2:59 pm : link
in the Northeast. Realistically, a season probably won't start until late September or Early October, meaning a baseball season would extend into late November/early December, which is just not feasible for this region.

Either way, I feel the worst for HS and college baseball players, especially in regions without Fall seasons. A baseball player from this area, for example, is not likely to have played a competitive game for at least 18 months by the time they begin playing this upcoming school year. That is particularly brutal for timing in hitting.
RE: Weather is terrible for baseball in the fall.  
Victor in CT : 5/21/2020 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14908274 GiantGolfer said:
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Once October rolls around the temperature drops and fields are harder to maintain. Unless the season is done by mid-October, I’d hate that move.


I disagree. We talked about it here in CT how much better the weather was in September and October than in March and April when I was coaching Babe Ruth and my son was playing High School ball. The fall is dryer and warmer.
Victor  
Crew : 5/21/2020 3:33 pm : link
what was your experience with fall baseball and daylight Savings? With some of the HS pitching out there, I've seen some long games. Figure games can't start before 4:00...I'd think in October it would be getting dark around 5:45...just curious.
RE: RE: Weather is terrible for baseball in the fall.  
Matt M. : 5/21/2020 3:34 pm : link
In comment 14908317 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 14908274 GiantGolfer said:


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Once October rolls around the temperature drops and fields are harder to maintain. Unless the season is done by mid-October, I’d hate that move.



I disagree. We talked about it here in CT how much better the weather was in September and October than in March and April when I was coaching Babe Ruth and my son was playing High School ball. The fall is dryer and warmer.
September yes. October can go a number of ways. November, when post season bids and games will be played would be brutal. And it is not just about the temperature. The grass is starting to die, many parks and fields are not normally maintained for baseball play during these months, the dirt is hard and can get bad from rain and early snow.

But, I will agree with you about March. We never did enjoy our exhibition season here in NYC.
what about the football players that also play lacrosse  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2020 3:44 pm : link
and the soccer players that also play baseball?

And the chances we'll develop a mass distributed vaccine between September and March seems like a hail mary too

I wouldnt change things up personally
RE: Victor  
Victor in CT : 5/21/2020 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14908318 Crew said:
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what was your experience with fall baseball and daylight Savings? With some of the HS pitching out there, I've seen some long games. Figure games can't start before 4:00...I'd think in October it would be getting dark around 5:45...just curious.


most High School fields have lights in the area so that wasn't a problem
RE: RE: RE: Weather is terrible for baseball in the fall.  
Victor in CT : 5/21/2020 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14908321 Matt M. said:
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In comment 14908317 Victor in CT said:


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In comment 14908274 GiantGolfer said:


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Once October rolls around the temperature drops and fields are harder to maintain. Unless the season is done by mid-October, I’d hate that move.



I disagree. We talked about it here in CT how much better the weather was in September and October than in March and April when I was coaching Babe Ruth and my son was playing High School ball. The fall is dryer and warmer.

September yes. October can go a number of ways. November, when post season bids and games will be played would be brutal. And it is not just about the temperature. The grass is starting to die, many parks and fields are not normally maintained for baseball play during these months, the dirt is hard and can get bad from rain and early snow.

But, I will agree with you about March. We never did enjoy our exhibition season here in NYC.


we never played in NOV except for after Super Storm Sandy when we played on Veterans Day.
Spring sports weather in NJ  
theold5j : 5/21/2020 6:54 pm : link
Is always brutal. Especially the high school baseball practice time in march and then most of the regular season in april and early May. You can probably count the nice days on your hand this year from April 1 to now. If they switch to the fall the biggest problem is darkness and start times as talked about above.
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