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Another Mike Lombardi gem today

Sean : 5/21/2020 7:04 pm
From the most recent GM Shuffle podcast released yesterday. Lombardi was talking about the lack of diversity in NFL head coaches where he pointed out the Giants.

He said that Thomas McGaughey is widely viewed in the NFL as an excellent ST coach, but the Giants didn’t consider him because he wasn’t sellable to the fan base, therefore they hired Judge.

I’m glad McGaughey was retained as ST coach, but that statement feels like complete nonsense to me. Just throwing shit against the wall.

Lombardi would be the same guy ripping the Giants if they went with the “safe, predictable” head coach hire.
He's horrible  
robbieballs2003 : 5/21/2020 7:05 pm : link
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He's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2020 7:07 pm : link
right. He wasn't sellable to the fan base, but not for the reason he is suggesting.

Can you imagine if the Giants hired ANY assistant coach from Shurmur's staff to be the next HC?

Giants fans have been bitching for years ago going outside the organization.
Eric is spot on  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/21/2020 7:12 pm : link
IMO.

But Lombardi is a clown. And again, I hope to one love someone like Mike Lombardi loves Mike Lombardi.
RE: Eric is spot on  
Sean : 5/21/2020 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14908436 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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IMO.

But Lombardi is a clown. And again, I hope to one love someone like Mike Lombardi loves Mike Lombardi.


He also wanted to hire Kyle Shanahan while in Cleveland, but ownership overruled him and hired Pettine. He’s never been wrong.
RE: Eric is spot on  
Diver_Down : 5/21/2020 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14908436 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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IMO.

But Lombardi is a clown. And again, I hope to one love someone like Mike Lombardi loves Mike Lombardi.


Can you parse that last sentence or is that an indication that you have started drinking early?
He's been preaching for years that the Giants needed  
robbieballs2003 : 5/21/2020 7:17 pm : link
needed to break up their culture and hire someone from the Pats. The Giants go out and hire from the Pats and now they should have promoted from within. Got it. Just complain about what happened no matter what.
Diver, Haha.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/21/2020 7:17 pm : link
No, not yet. I hate typing on phone.
Lombardi was on with Bro & Evan  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/21/2020 7:19 pm : link
A couple of months back & kept alluding to his relationship with BB, as if they were the football version of Lennon-McCartney. It was absurd.
And what teams  
TrueBlue56 : 5/21/2020 7:27 pm : link
Interviewed mccaughey for a head coaching job? He would make a better argument with the cowboys and kris Richard, at least he interviewed a few places.
If I had to guess..  
Sean : 5/21/2020 7:32 pm : link
Judge not hiring his son to be QB coach who was rumored to be in contention pissed off Lombardi.
So the Giants  
bceagle05 : 5/21/2020 7:36 pm : link
passed on hiring a special teams coach nobody knew in order to....hire a different special teams coach nobody knew? It wasn't like Judge was some no-brainer, crowd-pleasing choice. He was a total mystery.
It's amazing the guy was a GM without realizing  
Eric on Li : 5/21/2020 8:11 pm : link
that being a good position coach doesn't necessarily make someone a head coaching candidate. Though I guess it was the Browns and barely a year, so the only enduring part of his GM legacy is the pompous title of his columns ("From the eye of the GM").

nothing at all against McGaughey, I'm glad they kept him and perhaps one day he too will get a shot as a head coach, but there's probably about 100 reasons more important than being a "good special teams coach" as to why Judge got hired as a head coach (and why he will either succeed or fail). Team vision, philosophy, experience under Belichek/Saban and their recommendations, leadership, and on and on.

And btw god help anyone in this alternate reality with the misfortune of being in between Lombardi and a microphone in the moments after he'd heard the Giants named McGaughey head coach. He would have stroked out mid-rant against John Mara, just after getting out one of his trademark disclaimers that he "deeply respects the man".
This guy is a total clown  
ZogZerg : 5/21/2020 8:49 pm : link
Why do you guys waste your time reading his shit or worse listening to him?
you listen to this guy and he makes it sound  
Enzo : 5/21/2020 10:34 pm : link
like he's been Belicheck's right hand man for 30 years. It's ridiculous.
Guy has such a hard on  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/21/2020 10:47 pm : link
For the Giants. Never stops.
What makes it especially stupid....  
Milton : 5/22/2020 12:22 am : link
...is the fact that he makes it sound as if Joe Judge was "sellable" to the fanbase. Why is hiring Joe Judge any less of a shocker than it would've been to hire McGaughey?
No disrespect to our great ST coordinator  
glowrider : 5/22/2020 12:31 am : link
But hasn’t it been made pretty clear that Joe Judge wasn’t hired just for his ST acumen, but because of his resume, pedigree, backers and intangibles?

Notably:

* Has ONLY worked for arguabl\y the two greatest collegiate and professional football coaches of all time.
* Mentored directly by The Hooded One, for most of the last decade, to become a head football coach. Was spotted early by Saban, and passed along to Belichick.
* Said Hooded One spent ”days” on the phone with John Mara, holding his hand through the hiring process. Not a bad guy to have pushing your candidacy.
* Has an enormous professional network in the college and professional ranks. Was able to put together a top flight coaching staff, at his own pace, after other teams had already filled out. This was most impressive. Deep connections through the SEC and Saban-Belichick pipeline are vast.

And all the other outstanding intangibles we’re learning such as his command, preparedness, leadership, confidence, championship pedigree, etc.

It’s not really apples to apples when you’re dealing with one-offs like him. That doesn’t mean McGaughey shouldn’t get a look, just that it isn’t ST to ST.
RE: He's  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/22/2020 1:01 am : link
In comment 14908435 Eric from BBI said:
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right. He wasn't sellable to the fan base, but not for the reason he is suggesting.

Can you imagine if the Giants hired ANY assistant coach from Shurmur's staff to be the next HC?

Giants fans have been bitching for years ago going outside the organization.


Bingo. A staff that went 5-27 but let's make the ST coach the HC?!??!?
RE: He's been preaching for years that the Giants needed  
santacruzom : 5/22/2020 1:41 am : link
In comment 14908440 robbieballs2003 said:
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needed to break up their culture and hire someone from the Pats. The Giants go out and hire from the Pats and now they should have promoted from within. Got it. Just complain about what happened no matter what.


Where did he complain?
Lombardo...  
Daniel in Kentucky : 5/22/2020 5:05 am : link
...is the worst.
RE: RE: He's been preaching for years that the Giants needed  
robbieballs2003 : 5/22/2020 5:57 am : link
In comment 14908565 santacruzom said:
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In comment 14908440 robbieballs2003 said:


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needed to break up their culture and hire someone from the Pats. The Giants go out and hire from the Pats and now they should have promoted from within. Got it. Just complain about what happened no matter what.



Where did he complain?


Huh? He's complaining we didn't hire our special teams coach. He has complained how we run our team for years because his answer is always the Patriots way.
Lombardi is an idiot  
Dave on the UWS : 5/22/2020 10:35 am : link
He never even considered Eric’s point (which I believe is correct by the way). If he had, he wouldn’t have written this article. Dope
Doesn’t terps hold this guy in high esteem?  
Ned In Atlanta : 5/22/2020 10:43 am : link
What was his GM reign? A terrible year and a half between the Browns and Raiders ?
Lombardi must be doing something right  
US1 Giants : 5/22/2020 10:44 am : link
BBI is still reading, complaining, and giving him clicks. Just ignore him and refuse to click on his links.
RE: RE: RE: He's been preaching for years that the Giants needed  
santacruzom : 5/22/2020 11:00 am : link
In comment 14908578 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14908565 santacruzom said:


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In comment 14908440 robbieballs2003 said:


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needed to break up their culture and hire someone from the Pats. The Giants go out and hire from the Pats and now they should have promoted from within. Got it. Just complain about what happened no matter what.



Where did he complain?



Huh? He's complaining we didn't hire our special teams coach. He has complained how we run our team for years because his answer is always the Patriots way.


Is he? I don't see such a complaint in the OP's summary of his comments. He is simply saying the Giants may have hired McLaughlin but were concerned about a fan backlash.

I know we have a persecution complex a mile wide around here, but where is he saying we *should* have done that and made a mistake by going with Judge?
Credit to Lombardi  
BigBlueCane : 5/22/2020 5:16 pm : link
he's showing Leonard the correct way to generate click-bait bs.
I guess it’s fair to ask why McGaughey wasn’t considered...  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/23/2020 8:15 am : link
...assuming that he actually wasn’t. His resume is a bit thicker than Judge’s, his specialization (no pun intended) has been similar, and at 46/47 he’s at the prime age for a HC gig. But there’s a big difference between posing a question and then answering it yourself, with little or no factual basis.
RE: I guess it’s fair to ask why McGaughey wasn’t considered...  
TrueBlue56 : 5/23/2020 9:05 am : link
In comment 14909386 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...assuming that he actually wasn’t. His resume is a bit thicker than Judge’s, his specialization (no pun intended) has been similar, and at 46/47 he’s at the prime age for a HC gig. But there’s a big difference between posing a question and then answering it yourself, with little or no factual basis.


I think there is possibly 2 things to consider. Mccaughey has bounced around quite a bit. Since 2014, he has been a coach on 4 different teams. Why was he let go or not given a new contract? The other thing you see is his career trajectory, he went from special teams coordinator to assistant special teams coordinator in some places.

I am not knocking mccaughey at all, because I am really glad that he was retained and I think he will really start making a name for himself here for future consideration as a head coach somewhere.

Joe judge has steadily climbed through the ranks. 3 years as special teams assistant at Alabama and then 3 years as a special teams assistant in new England before becoming special teams coordinator for another 5 years.

Not many special teams coordinators get hired as head coaches to begin with, it's even harder when you are bouncing all over the place.
So fucking weird  
BestFeature : 5/23/2020 10:16 am : link
1) Why would he be less sellable to the fanbase that lives in probably the most diverse part of the country than to other fanbases?

2) They didn't just pick an ST coach from a hat and pick Judge. Him being an ST coach was probably the least important reason they hired him as a head coach.

Such absolute nonsense. I can't tell if these people are that dumb or think we're that dumb.
Total Bullshit  
PaulN : 5/23/2020 11:36 am : link
And garbage.
Most  
PaulN : 5/23/2020 11:38 am : link
Here have screamed to fire him as special teams coach.
RE: Most  
ron mexico : 5/23/2020 11:48 am : link
In comment 14909468 PaulN said:
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Here have screamed to fire him as special teams coach.


You are confusing him with Quinn
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