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Dolphins fired OC O'Shea due to overly complex playbook

ron mexico : 5/21/2020 9:19 pm
Interesting story. Also kinda crazy that a first year HC loses both coordinators.
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And that HC coached a team that was intentionally  
Default : 5/21/2020 10:26 pm : link
tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...
RE: And that HC coached a team that was intentionally  
Jay on the Island : 5/21/2020 10:43 pm : link
In comment 14908510 Default said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...

The FO might have attempted to tank but the coaches and players certainly didn't.
Wah wah  
Tim in VA : 5/21/2020 10:53 pm : link
Giants drafted Barkley. Wah wah. Boo hoo. *sob*
RE: And that HC coached a team that was intentionally  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2020 11:03 pm : link
In comment 14908510 Default said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...


What have you been drinking tonight? Holy stretch
So the Dolphins fired both their offensive and defensive coordinators  
Milton : 5/22/2020 12:05 am : link
...for having too complicated a playbook.
p.s.--And before anyone shoots back that Pat Graham wasn't fired, well, technically he wasn't, but they wouldn't've let him interview with the Giants if they weren't going to replace him anyway.
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Giantology : 5/22/2020 4:39 am : link
In comment 14908510 Default said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...


I can’t remember, would you rather we have a QB who is seeing ghosts?
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joeinpa : 5/22/2020 6:41 am : link
In comment 14908520 Jay on the Island said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...


The FO might have attempted to tank but the coaches and players certainly didn't.


That coach and his team did a great job last season. A team that was set up to lose, gets off to a terrible start, but has a winning record their last 9 games with a win in New England that the Patriots needed, in Foxboro
RE: And that HC coached a team that was intentionally  
Brown Recluse : 5/22/2020 6:52 am : link
In comment 14908510 Default said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...


Comment has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. Just looking for a reason to whine and moan like a child.
Which O’Shea brother was that?  
KDavies : 5/22/2020 7:02 am : link
Kevin or Danny? My guess is it was Danny. The annexation of Puerto Rico wasn’t easy enough for the Dolphins I guess
Flores did a heck of a job coaching that club  
ZogZerg : 5/22/2020 7:28 am : link
First year guy with GM trading away the best players.

He beats the Patriots the last game of the year in a game the Patriots had to win!

I've often said  
Gman11 : 5/22/2020 7:30 am : link
that the NFL has gotten too complicated for its own good. A team picks up a player and they have to sit for weeks to learn the playbook. Contrast that to any of the other team sports. Players get picked up one day and are in the lineup the next.
So, didn't the HC review  
section125 : 5/22/2020 7:50 am : link
the playbook before the season started?
I mean most Madden 20 pros  
Boatie Warrant : 5/22/2020 7:58 am : link
Used the Miami Defense in the championship tournament. That has to be good,.....right?
RE: And that HC coached a team that was intentionally  
Victor in CT : 5/22/2020 8:19 am : link
In comment 14908510 Default said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...


what a stupid post
RE: And that HC coached a team that was intentionally  
UConn4523 : 5/22/2020 8:23 am : link
In comment 14908510 Default said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...


That's unbelievably false. No one on that staff was "tanking". They have a good HC and ascending talent, they also weren't going to be worse than Cincy anyway even if they tried.
RE: So, didn't the HC review  
Ivan15 : 5/22/2020 8:24 am : link
In comment 14908598 section125 said:
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the playbook before the season started?


The HC and coordinators were all from the Patriots and probably were doing it “the Patriots Way”. Except for the QB, the Dolphins probably didn’t have the same “smarts” as the Patriots’ players. Dummies don’t last long in New England (note the WRs BB has dumped quickly). It even took Fitzpatrick some time to figure out O’Shea’s offense and Fitz has seen a bunch of different offenses.

I don’t think the offense needs to be too complicated. Just needs to be flexible. It is all about creating mismatches.
You have to admit that the front office  
ron mexico : 5/22/2020 8:25 am : link
Made it difficult for the Miami staff to compete.
RE: You have to admit that the front office  
Johnny5 : 5/22/2020 10:54 am : link
In comment 14908624 ron mexico said:
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Made it difficult for the Miami staff to compete.

This is actually giving me more confidence in Patrick Graham. Not a ton of defensive talent on that team, and clearly not a high level of support behind them, and they still had that team playing competitive ball.
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Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/22/2020 11:20 am : link
In comment 14908573 Giantology said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...



I can’t remember, would you rather we have a QB who is seeing ghosts?

Or Josh Rosen.

but but but bbi'ers wanted Nelson all along!
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 5/22/2020 12:05 pm : link
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So the Dolphins fired both their offensive and defensive coordinators
Milton : 12:05 am : link : reply
...for having too complicated a playbook.
p.s.--And before anyone shoots back that Pat Graham wasn't fired, well, technically he wasn't, but they wouldn't've let him interview with the Giants if they weren't going to replace him anyway.


I was under the impression that by giving Graham the assistant head coach title, it's technically a promotion, which would prohibit the Dolphin's interference?
Getting a coach from Miami  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/22/2020 12:44 pm : link
isn't exactly like poaching from BB's staff.
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Milton : 5/22/2020 1:10 pm : link
In comment 14908830 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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So the Dolphins fired both their offensive and defensive coordinators
Milton : 12:05 am : link : reply
...for having too complicated a playbook.
p.s.--And before anyone shoots back that Pat Graham wasn't fired, well, technically he wasn't, but they wouldn't've let him interview with the Giants if they weren't going to replace him anyway.



I was under the impression that by giving Graham the assistant head coach title, it's technically a promotion, which would prohibit the Dolphin's interference?
No, only a head coaching job is considered a promotion.
Flores did an incredible job last season  
Mike from SI : 5/22/2020 1:15 pm : link
I think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Shades of ...  
BronxBob : 5/22/2020 6:25 pm : link
... Sean Payton
RE: And that HC coached a team that was intentionally  
djm : 5/22/2020 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14908510 Default said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...


How’s Denver doing with that end all be all DE pick on round one same draft. Or the colts? Or the lol jets?

Loon.
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Default : 5/22/2020 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14909217 djm said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...



How’s Denver doing with that end all be all DE pick on round one same draft. Or the colts? Or the lol jets?

Loon.


All better than the Giants.
The man “who sees ghosts” outran the “man touched by the hand of god” in their only head to head match up.
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Nick in LA : 5/22/2020 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14909222 Default said:
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tanking to a better record than the Giants.
Which is crazy because the Giants supposedly have a HOF runningback that was touched by the hand of god...



How’s Denver doing with that end all be all DE pick on round one same draft. Or the colts? Or the lol jets?

Loon.



All better than the Giants.
The man “who sees ghosts” outran the “man touched by the hand of god” in their only head to head match up.


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