I don't know, how is he different than Lonzo? Lonzo seems like a better athlete, maybe not as good of a shooter but probably the same vision or better. LaMelo may be a little bit more dynamic with the ball in his hands, but it's against inferior competition.
You need twitchy, dynamic athletes to excel in the backcourt. The Pauls and Currys are few and far in between. I have a hard time imagining a subpar athlete only flashing in a mediocre league eventually developing into a star in the NBA, no matter how young he is.
Toppin has his warts for sure, but I think he's one of the surer bet to put up points in the league. I like Edwards the most, but admit he has a lot of Waiters/McLemore in him.
I like his creativity and variety. Also like the look in his eye. He wants the ball when it matters. But I get that PG is and has been a disaster forever. I'm just not in love with any of them.
Seems likes a mutual interest between LaMelo and the Knicks.
That doesn’t really help the slim odds we have of getting him, unless we get carried away with trades. Can’t imagine teams like Atlanta, Golden State or even Cleveland would be looking for a ball-dominant PG, so that helps a bit.
And let’s be honest the baggage is his father and nothing more than that. I only care about the lack of an outside shot. But the knicks need a floor leader PG so badly. Shot be damned if this kid is the goods go get him. Knicks will go fro bad to good overnight the minute they land a real dynamic PG.
If a PG can't shoot well, it means the defense can lay off him
had Mike Vorkunov on his podcast to talk Knicks, and they agreed the value is about equal for picks #27 and #38, so it makes sense to package them to move up or trade #27 in a deal for a vet. Even in rebuilding mode, I doubt they bring in three rookies plus Iggy next season.
Otherwise, nothing new to report. Nobody knows what Leon Rose has in mind, and there’s obviously no track record with him, so we’re all just guessing.
RE: Jonathan Wasserman (Bleacher Report draft guy)
had Mike Vorkunov on his podcast to talk Knicks, and they agreed the value is about equal for picks #27 and #38, so it makes sense to package them to move up or trade #27 in a deal for a vet. Even in rebuilding mode, I doubt they bring in three rookies plus Iggy next season.
Otherwise, nothing new to report. Nobody knows what Leon Rose has in mind, and there’s obviously no track record with him, so we’re all just guessing.
I don’t agree with that at all. Stay with the rebuild. Problem with Knicks is they don’t have patience.
David Lee was take 30 and Draymond Green somewhere around 40. You can get a player there
That doesn’t really help the slim odds we have of getting him, unless we get carried away with trades. Can’t imagine teams like Atlanta, Golden State or even Cleveland would be looking for a ball-dominant PG, so that helps a bit.
This is important. I'd add Minnesota to that list with D'Angelo Russell in place. We basically have to jump Detroit.
A positive for LaMelo's shooting potential is that he's shot 83% FT
The bad news isn't so much his low 3P percentage but that he doesn't have the basics of an NBA jump shot.
As a result, his mid-range game is floater city. See 9:15-10:15 of clip.
People want to put Ja Morant in the HOF already but he has the same issue.
Why is it so hard see the priority of developing a conventional J?
And, in LaMelo's case, we're talking about someone with the base ability to shoot free throws at elite level and who evidently has a high level of overall athletic coordination.
Steph Curry tells the story of how he realized he had to take apart and rebuild the two-handed shooting style of his early youth to get the NBA J.
It meant taking a couple of steps back before he could move forward but he had the ability to look down the road. The easy thing is to keep doing what you're doing.
The bad news isn't so much his low 3P percentage but that he doesn't have the basics of an NBA jump shot.
As a result, his mid-range game is floater city. See 9:15-10:15 of clip.
People want to put Ja Morant in the HOF already but he has the same issue.
Why is it so hard see the priority of developing a conventional J?
And, in LaMelo's case, we're talking about someone with the base ability to shoot free throws at elite level and who evidently has a high level of overall athletic coordination.
Steph Curry tells the story of how he realized he had to take apart and rebuild the two-handed shooting style of his early youth to get the NBA J.
It meant taking a couple of steps back before he could move forward but he had the ability to look down the road. The easy thing is to keep doing what you're doing.
the good the not so good and the somewhat ugly - ( New Window )
This is a good post. The biggest harm to LaMelo so far hasn't been his dad, it's that bouncing around so much has never kept him with a coaching staff that can take the time and teach him the fundamentals of both a jump shot and defense.
I think he has star potential, but i would like a point that can shoot next to barrett..
If that is the baggage you are talking about
Take best player available
Hayes, Halliburton, Vassell, Okongwu
These are the four I have my eyes on right now.
Two way players, unless superstar #1 options on offense are there...are where we and need to be. I don’t think any of the bigger names are superstars.
can't keep drafting kids that can't consistently knock down the 3.
can't keep drafting kids that can't consistently knock down the 3.
That’s not LaMelo though, with his wonky shot form
1. Ball
2. Hayes
3. Wiseman
4. Avdija
5. Haliburton
6. Edwards
7. Okongwu
8. Toppin
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The Knicks need a shooter first and foremost.
can't keep drafting kids that can't consistently knock down the 3.
That’s not LaMelo though, with his wonky shot form
not at all. his game is devalued in today's NBA.
This is a bad draft for the Knicks unless you get the first pick.
This seems like a stretch
You need twitchy, dynamic athletes to excel in the backcourt. The Pauls and Currys are few and far in between. I have a hard time imagining a subpar athlete only flashing in a mediocre league eventually developing into a star in the NBA, no matter how young he is.
Toppin has his warts for sure, but I think he's one of the surer bet to put up points in the league. I like Edwards the most, but admit he has a lot of Waiters/McLemore in him.
1. Ball
2. Hayes
3. Wiseman
4. Avdija
5. Haliburton
6. Edwards
7. Okongwu
8. Toppin
Toppin will turn out to be the best of this draft
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1. Ball
2. Hayes
3. Wiseman
4. Avdija
5. Haliburton
6. Edwards
7. Okongwu
8. Toppin
Toppin will turn out to be the best of this draft
Toppin is one of the worst defensive players to come out in the draft in a while...
Hayes, Halliburton, Vassell, Okongw
I would love to add Vassell. I'd have no problem taking him if we draft 6-8.
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board
1. Ball
2. Hayes
3. Wiseman
4. Avdija
5. Haliburton
6. Edwards
7. Okongwu
8. Toppin
Toppin will turn out to be the best of this draft
Toppin is one of the worst defensive players to come out in the draft in a while...
He’s a terrific rebounder. Have you watched Dayton games
Otherwise, nothing new to report. Nobody knows what Leon Rose has in mind, and there’s obviously no track record with him, so we’re all just guessing.
Otherwise, nothing new to report. Nobody knows what Leon Rose has in mind, and there’s obviously no track record with him, so we’re all just guessing.
I don’t agree with that at all. Stay with the rebuild. Problem with Knicks is they don’t have patience.
David Lee was take 30 and Draymond Green somewhere around 40. You can get a player there
This is important. I'd add Minnesota to that list with D'Angelo Russell in place. We basically have to jump Detroit.
The bad news isn't so much his low 3P percentage but that he doesn't have the basics of an NBA jump shot.
As a result, his mid-range game is floater city. See 9:15-10:15 of clip.
People want to put Ja Morant in the HOF already but he has the same issue.
Why is it so hard see the priority of developing a conventional J?
And, in LaMelo's case, we're talking about someone with the base ability to shoot free throws at elite level and who evidently has a high level of overall athletic coordination.
Steph Curry tells the story of how he realized he had to take apart and rebuild the two-handed shooting style of his early youth to get the NBA J.
It meant taking a couple of steps back before he could move forward but he had the ability to look down the road. The easy thing is to keep doing what you're doing.
the good the not so good and the somewhat ugly - ( New Window )
The bad news isn't so much his low 3P percentage but that he doesn't have the basics of an NBA jump shot.
As a result, his mid-range game is floater city. See 9:15-10:15 of clip.
People want to put Ja Morant in the HOF already but he has the same issue.
Why is it so hard see the priority of developing a conventional J?
And, in LaMelo's case, we're talking about someone with the base ability to shoot free throws at elite level and who evidently has a high level of overall athletic coordination.
Steph Curry tells the story of how he realized he had to take apart and rebuild the two-handed shooting style of his early youth to get the NBA J.
It meant taking a couple of steps back before he could move forward but he had the ability to look down the road. The easy thing is to keep doing what you're doing.
the good the not so good and the somewhat ugly - ( New Window )
This is a good post. The biggest harm to LaMelo so far hasn't been his dad, it's that bouncing around so much has never kept him with a coaching staff that can take the time and teach him the fundamentals of both a jump shot and defense.