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NFT: ESPN 30 for 30: Lance Armstrong pt 1

superspynyg : 5/24/2020 9:38 pm
Is in now and its pretty good so far.
Lance is still  
montanagiant : 5/24/2020 9:50 pm : link
A raging PoS hemorrhoid
The Lance acolytes on this board were a  
mfsd : 5/24/2020 11:34 pm : link
cult of morons in those days.

Anyone who dared suggest the blatantly obvious, that Lance was cheating as much or more than his competitors, got attacked by a bunch of drones rattling off all of Lance’s PR talking points about how he never tested positive or whatever.
Jordan is a hemorrhoid  
Stan in LA : 5/25/2020 12:24 am : link
Propped up by ESPN/Nike until the masses bought its junk.
At least Lance did something historic.
RE: Jordan is a hemorrhoid  
montanagiant : 5/25/2020 12:25 am : link
In comment 14910133 Stan in LA said:
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Propped up by ESPN/Nike until the masses bought its junk.
At least Lance did something historic.

What's that? Get away for years cheating to win? Stick to your Lemon Parties Stan!
Statistically speaking  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/25/2020 6:23 am : link
It should have been obvious he was a low down cheater (better). In no other sport does an athlete go on a undefeated streak like that - except obviously rigged boxing of course.
Not to defend him especially  
BillT : 5/25/2020 8:44 am : link
But everyone in pro biking was doping. Everyone. (And probably still are.)
...  
Mdgiantsfan : 5/25/2020 9:36 am : link
It appears doping is egregious only in baseball and cycling. If a player gets caught doping in baseball and cycling, they are the most heinous athletes ever. But let an NFL player get caught, absolutely no one cares. The same folks that hate Maguire, Sosa, and Armstrong say absolutely nothing about Julius Peppers, Shawn Springs, and Julian Edelman.
RE: Not to defend him especially  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/25/2020 10:02 am : link
In comment 14910183 BillT said:
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But everyone in pro biking was doping. Everyone. (And probably still are.)


That's why Lance came off as even more smug than he needed to be.

Everyone was doping, so what is the point of denying it? It wasn't even just a denial, but an aggressive denouncement of anyone daring to say he was doping.

Just own what you've done and educate the public that in order to even be competitive in cycling, doping is mandatory.
RE: Jordan is a hemorrhoid  
PhiPsi125 : 5/25/2020 10:06 am : link
In comment 14910133 Stan in LA said:
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Propped up by ESPN/Nike until the masses bought its junk.
At least Lance did something historic.


BBI Cropduster strikes again!
Armstrong was a jerk not because he cheated  
markky : 5/25/2020 10:06 am : link
but because of the way he tried to destroy other people's lives in the process.
RE: Armstrong was a jerk not because he cheated  
mfsd : 5/25/2020 10:11 am : link
In comment 14910217 markky said:
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but because of the way he tried to destroy other people's lives in the process.


Bingo

RE: RE: Not to defend him especially  
BillT : 5/25/2020 10:17 am : link
In comment 14910213 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14910183 BillT said:


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But everyone in pro biking was doping. Everyone. (And probably still are.)



That's why Lance came off as even more smug than he needed to be.

Everyone was doping, so what is the point of denying it? It wasn't even just a denial, but an aggressive denouncement of anyone daring to say he was doping.

Just own what you've done and educate the public that in order to even be competitive in cycling, doping is mandatory.

True, but who does admit to cheating. If he does they strip him of all his titles and if he doesn’t they eventually strip him of all his titles. It was a calculated position. And that’s not to defend him in any way. He made his bed. Glad to see him get whatever he did.
RE: Jordan is a hemorrhoid  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/25/2020 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14910133 Stan in LA said:
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Propped up by ESPN/Nike until the masses bought its junk.
At least Lance did something historic.


Umm what?!?
RE: RE: Jordan is a hemorrhoid  
montanagiant : 5/25/2020 2:21 pm : link
In comment 14910319 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In comment 14910133 Stan in LA said:


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Propped up by ESPN/Nike until the masses bought its junk.
At least Lance did something historic.



Umm what?!?

You won't get an answer, he's doing his typical drive-by on a thread
F Lance Armstrong.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/25/2020 2:29 pm : link
That's all I got.
RE: ...  
Matt M. : 5/25/2020 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14910204 Mdgiantsfan said:
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It appears doping is egregious only in baseball and cycling. If a player gets caught doping in baseball and cycling, they are the most heinous athletes ever. But let an NFL player get caught, absolutely no one cares. The same folks that hate Maguire, Sosa, and Armstrong say absolutely nothing about Julius Peppers, Shawn Springs, and Julian Edelman.
People care in the NFL. They just make next to impossible to get caught in the first place.
RE: RE: Not to defend him especially  
Matt M. : 5/25/2020 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14910213 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14910183 BillT said:


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But everyone in pro biking was doping. Everyone. (And probably still are.)



That's why Lance came off as even more smug than he needed to be.

Everyone was doping, so what is the point of denying it? It wasn't even just a denial, but an aggressive denouncement of anyone daring to say he was doping.

Just own what you've done and educate the public that in order to even be competitive in cycling, doping is mandatory.
The same can be said, to a lesser degree, about Bonds and Clemens.
Matt...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/25/2020 5:51 pm : link
yep.

Look at how history views them vs. Pettitte and others who came clean.
Put me in the camp with  
ron mexico : 5/25/2020 6:08 pm : link
Those that say that everyone was doping and what he accomplished is still pretty special.
RE: Jordan is a hemorrhoid  
speedywheels : 5/26/2020 11:03 am : link
In comment 14910133 Stan in LA said:
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Propped up by ESPN/Nike until the masses bought its junk.
At least Lance did something historic.


Of course you are a supporter of Armstrong.

You are such a fucking tool....
RE: Matt...  
Matt M. : 5/26/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14910458 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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yep.

Look at how history views them vs. Pettitte and others who came clean.
Hell, even A-Rod has redeemed himself and he actually may be the worst user of them all. Pettitte is a good example and one I was thinking of also. He came clean right away and his flimsy explanation was readily accepted.

All I know is, if in a couple of years, Ortiz is voted into the HOF I will lose my shit. I don't know if it will be enought to get me to stop watching, but it might. First of all, without PEDs, he doesn't sniff the HOF. Second, if he gets in with his flimsy excuses, then there is no way you can leave out Clemens or Bonds who technically did not fail a test, while Ortiz did. And A-Rod and him have the same number of failed tests.
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