In this article by 27-7 Sports they project the NY Giants to have the number 1 pick in the 2021 Draft. For simplicity's sake to ignore any trade possibilities but if it did work out that we wind up with the number 1 pick, what would you expect the FO to do? Keep it and take the guy the article suggests or keep it and take someone else? If you think as I do that they would likely trade out of the number one spot, what would they get for it and how do you think they might utilize the bounty. Football talk is fun!
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If we go WR next year I hope we target Rondale Moore. He can replace Tate in 2021. Absolute playmaker.
Just to address the hypothetical of picking #1, there would be a reason why. Unless DJ is quarantined for the entire season, it is likely that he captained the team to lead their losing ways just like he captained the ship that set a franchise record 8 game losing streak this past season. If we are picking #1, you don't overthink it. You take Trevor. A better overall prospect with 2 more years of cost-controlled salary.
If we go WR next year I hope we target Rondale Moore. He can replace Tate in 2021. Absolute playmaker.
Gregory Rousseau ER from Miami. Had 19.5 TFL and 15.5 sacks as a RS Freshman.
Then, putting it politely, there is no reason to believe he is the answer.
You take Trevor Lawrence or whatever QB is the consensus #1 at that time.
If that really is the case, then even they should also be able to figure that Daniel Jones is not the answer and you take Trevor Lawrence without even thinking twice about it.
I guess it would also mean that Gettleman would no longer be with the Giants once the season has finished.
I think its connected to previous year's won-loss record.
Then, putting it politely, there is no reason to believe he is the answer.
You take Trevor Lawrence or whatever QB is the consensus #1 at that time.
This. If we end up with the #1 pick, then Jones either had a major injury or was ridiculously bad. In either event, you take Trevor Lawrence no questions asked.
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Seriously, how do they figure we will have the #1 pick in 2021?
I think its connected to previous year's won-loss record.
It is based on betting lines from back in April.
Then, putting it politely, there is no reason to believe he is the answer.
You take Trevor Lawrence or whatever QB is the consensus #1 at that time.
Agreed you 100% go Lawrence. I don't see a scenario where the Giants have the #1 overall pick and Jones plays, and plays quite well. Either he is injured, or doesn't play well.
In the unlikely scenario that Jones plays great and the Giants have the #1 overall pick, you trade down. Pick up Sewell/Rousseau and get extra picks. Should get a ton for Lawrence. But that would mean the defense/special teams was just dreadfully bad.
That being said, I think we will be picking top 5-10 again and therefore the guys I have my eyes on are Ja’Maar Chase and Gregory Rousseau, likely the best players at WR and Edge. Both could use talent upgrades.
That being said, I think we will be picking top 5-10 again and therefore the guys I have my eyes on are Ja’Maar Chase and Gregory Rousseau, likely the best players at WR and Edge. Both could use talent upgrades.
Both units (Edge and WR) with the NYG could use talent upgrades, that is.
If that really is the case, then even they should also be able to figure that Daniel Jones is not the answer and you take Trevor Lawrence without even thinking twice about it.
I guess it would also mean that Gettleman would no longer be with the Giants once the season has finished.
Yup, the latter would absolutely be the silver lining.
Also, I do not like the article because the only way Lawrence is the not the number 1 pick is if he has some career altering injury. Whether it's the Giants or some other team, he will be the top pick.
Even if DJ turns into a top 10 qb, you can’t pass on someone who may be top 2-3 q2 for the next 15 yrs
If jones looks awesome, as in 32 td and 8 picks awesome, then pick up like 4 high draft picks and a top player for Lawrence and build a real SB contender around him and saquon
Bengals - the reigning Draft champs and it wasn't because of their QB, but Sy thinks they're not half bad, so maybe they don't repeat.
Chargers - possible. Torch has passed from Phil Rivers, but not yet picked up.
Rams - by all accounts they've gone noticeably backwards and were quiet in free agency, but they don't have a first round pick in 2021, so it won't be them.
Detroit Lions - departed players don't give the impression all is well in Detroit.
Chicago Bears - it's not all down to Trubisky.
Redskins - you wouldn't think so with the addition of Chase Young to an already strong defense, but the reason behind their record last season was lack of offense.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - aw, come on! That would be funny!
Would you still want Lawrence with the number one pick or would you be just as tempted to trade some team for their first and second round pick, and their first and third in 2021, and their first and third in 2022? I would love the major haul and turn this team into a dynasty rather than a mediocre team with the best QB in the league.
What would it take trade wise for you to be willing to give up that number one and who would you look for with the bounty?
Would you still want Lawrence with the number one pick or would you be just as tempted to trade some team for their first and second round pick, and their first and third in 2021, and their first and third in 2022? I would love the major haul and turn this team into a dynasty rather than a mediocre team with the best QB in the league.
What would it take trade wise for you to be willing to give up that number one and who would you look for with the bounty?
That kind of performance isn't going to lead to a 1-2 win season unless everything else goes to shit. In that case, we likely have a new GM and possibly a new HC.
Would you still want Lawrence with the number one pick or would you be just as tempted to trade some team for their first and second round pick, and their first and third in 2021, and their first and third in 2022? I would love the major haul and turn this team into a dynasty rather than a mediocre team with the best QB in the league.
What would it take trade wise for you to be willing to give up that number one and who would you look for with the bounty?
The haul would depend on the drop from #1 spot, but I would probably keep DJ in place and go with the haul. Targeting anything and everything with the extra picks because clearly things aren't working out.
If that happens, I would take Lawrence, assuming he at least matches his performance from last year. I would be just fine to trade Daniel Jones. Remember in this scenario Jones would've lost significant parts of the season to injury, and it would be back to back seasons in which he missed games, so the narrative on him would be different than what it is today.
I would not trade Lawrence in that scenario, he'd be my guy. He's too special.
In a purely hypothetical scenario, if Jones had a very good statistical season and we still ended up with the 1st overall pick because of other reasons, I could theoretically trade Lawrence if the haul was significant, but I'd still lean towards keeping him. The Colts (correctly) traded Peyton Manning to make room for Andrew Luck. I believe Lawrence is a QB prospect at or near Luck's level, and you don't pass on that kind of talent. It would be like passing on Patrick Mahomes, not a good idea.
If that happens, I would take Lawrence, assuming he at least matches his performance from last year. I would be just fine to trade Daniel Jones. Remember in this scenario Jones would've lost significant parts of the season to injury, and it would be back to back seasons in which he missed games, so the narrative on him would be different than what it is today.
I would not trade Lawrence in that scenario, he'd be my guy. He's too special.
In a purely hypothetical scenario, if Jones had a very good statistical season and we still ended up with the 1st overall pick because of other reasons, I could theoretically trade Lawrence if the haul was significant, but I'd still lean towards keeping him. The Colts (correctly) traded Peyton Manning to make room for Andrew Luck. I believe Lawrence is a QB prospect at or near Luck's level, and you don't pass on that kind of talent. It would be like passing on Patrick Mahomes, not a good idea.
Agreed, you take Lawrence. But in reality a very good statistical season from Jones probably spells a lot lower pick than #1. You have to figure that the poster who mentioned the 4k plus yards lowish 60% over 30Tds and low turnovers would probably be somewhere in the 7-10 wins range depending on luck, etc. When you are mentioning those kinds of numbers you are talking about a top 10-12 qb in the league and duplicating some of Eli's best statistical years.
What if there is no college football season either?
If that happens, I would take Lawrence, assuming he at least matches his performance from last year. I would be just fine to trade Daniel Jones. Remember in this scenario Jones would've lost significant parts of the season to injury, and it would be back to back seasons in which he missed games, so the narrative on him would be different than what it is today.
I would not trade Lawrence in that scenario, he'd be my guy. He's too special.
In a purely hypothetical scenario, if Jones had a very good statistical season and we still ended up with the 1st overall pick because of other reasons, I could theoretically trade Lawrence if the haul was significant, but I'd still lean towards keeping him. The Colts (correctly) traded Peyton Manning to make room for Andrew Luck. I believe Lawrence is a QB prospect at or near Luck's level, and you don't pass on that kind of talent. It would be like passing on Patrick Mahomes, not a good idea.
On top of what you said, there is the advantage of 2 more years of cost-controlled QB salary. Don't overthink it. Just take Trevor.
For the sake of hypothetical with the article's premise that we are #1 and Jax #2 and we must trade out, then Jax needs to send Josh Allen, #2 pick, and their 2021 #1 for starters. I would also push them to sign Yannick with a massive signing bonus that they have to eat when they include him in the proverbial haul.