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Gary Bettman & #NHL to make a formal announcement on Return to Play for 2019-20 today at 3:30 CT on NBCSN and NHL Network[/quote]
I believe the 24-team "playoff/play-in" was approved. some details remained though, such as draft, seedings for the top 4 in each conference, logistics like location, testing/symptom handling, etc.
below is the proposed "playoff/play-in"
I believe this is what was approved.
Everyone will, he's one of the few true #1C in the league.
I think it's just that he publicly voiced his frustration with the losing.
at least that's all I've read
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Boy, would they be set up.. Panarin, Mika, Eichel and the lot of youngsters. Talk about a perennial SCF contender.
And Eichel is a big reason. I don't think he'll ever be McDavid, but as #2 overall picks go, that's a pretty damn good consolation prize.
I would trade a lot to get him and be happy to do it.
I also think any Eichel trade with the Rangers includes Kakko probably.
Agree. I was shocked this morning when I read Eichel is only 23
I agree, at Eichel's age, skill level, and the fact he's locked up I'd trade Kakko for him.
Eichel did play a year of college though. Now it was a monster year and he won Hobey Baker, but consider Eichel's 18 year old season was in NCAA and Kakko's was in the NHL.
Big difference (just in terms of saying look how great Eichel is now and some of what I've read on here about how Kakko was not impressive).
Yeah, I would too. I think there's maybe 15 legitimate #1 C's in the whole league. Add in the age and contract status. I'd overpay. Only concern up in my mind would be the contract. On one hand I love he's locked up long term on the other hand with the pandemic I wouldn't be shocked (in fact I'd probably expect) the cap to be reduced for a year or two. If the cap is reduced it's a big number. The Rangers may need to offload cap to make it work.
Because they definitely were if the season played out as normal
You're not factoring in the games in hand they have/had. They'd have made it barring a 2007 Mets collapse ending. But regardless, the play-ins probably wont start until mid-August at this point so whatever at this point
meh... we're all putting way too much thought into this but i'm just procrastinating my workout and yard work i need to get to:
3 games with reeling Pitt
2 games with NJ
2 games with Buff
1 game with Ottawa and Columbus (decimated by injury at time)
...2 games with Boston, but both the last week of the season with Boston already wrapping up #1. Would have been a nice break
1 game w/ STL, TOR, NYI
Hardly murderers row. Plus they got Brady Skjei (/sarcasm)
I'm not saying things could not have reversed if the season had played out, but odds are not in the favor of that happening.
It's hard to make up ground in 3 weeks with the point system even when it's two points.
Rangers had a better chance at knocking out CBJ than CAR because those two games in hand are huge.
In any case will be fun to see TBL knocked out early again.
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We simulated the #NHL playoffs 10,000 times and these teams won the Cup most often:
TB 17.9%
WAS 10.8%
COL 10.4%
BOS 9.8%
NYR 8.4%
STL 6.9%
PHI 5.8%
VGK 4.9%
TOR 4.5%
EDM 4.0%
VAN 2.9%
NAS 2.9%
MIN 2.9%
FLA 2.4%
PIT 1.7%
CAR 1.1%
WIN 1.0%
ARI, DAL, CAL, CHI, MON, NYI, CBJ < 1%
Not only because I'm a fan, but I like the Rangers:
1. Good potential for hot goalie
2. Getting Kreider back
3. Rest for the youngest team in the league with lots of guys obvious candidates for 'hitting the wall' now having had some time to recoup fro a grind they had little or no experience with.
Same. I would do Kakko, Trouba (for salary purposes), Andersson, and maybe even Chytil for Eichel and Mittelstadt.
A 21 year old center who put up .70 ppg in the AHL.
I admit predicting trades is something I'm not great at so nothing would surprise me, but that seems off.
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and I thought the NYR would be a team no one wants to face but I would love to see the matchups they had that produced this. 840 cup wins for the Rangers in 10,000 simulations? Just a hair below the Bruins?
In any case will be fun to see TBL knocked out early again.
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Not only because I'm a fan, but I like the Rangers:
1. Good potential for hot goalie
2. Getting Kreider back
3. Rest for the youngest team in the league with lots of guys obvious candidates for 'hitting the wall' now having had some time to recoup fro a grind they had little or no experience with.
I think what the NHL has going for them with this format is fans of (almost) all of the 24 teams can talk themselves into 'why not us.'
Should be a fun tournament, even if the winner gets an *
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But I certainly would do it if that's what it took. Eichel's only a few years older and at best Kakko *might* be close to his level as a player.
Same. I would do Kakko, Trouba (for salary purposes), Andersson, and maybe even Chytil for Eichel and Mittelstadt.
Na buffalo would have to send a pick back too
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But I certainly would do it if that's what it took. Eichel's only a few years older and at best Kakko *might* be close to his level as a player.
Same. I would do Kakko, Trouba (for salary purposes), Andersson, and maybe even Chytil for Eichel and Mittelstadt.
Na buffalo would have to send a pick back too
Yeah, I think it was heavy on the Rangers side, but BUF may also prefer a pick to Andersson.
So, again, not my forte but I think something like this:
NYR send:
Kakko
Trouba
2020 1st (maybe a 2021 contingent 1st /2nd depending on timing of the trade contingent on playoffs/results)
BUF send:
Eichel
maybe a pick back
I like Trouba but make no mistake he's included to make the salary work.
Only the play-in round will be best of 5, everything else will be best of 7.
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anyway, some playoff odds from moneypuck. Golden Knights SC favorites. I think the Bruins should be but apparently these guys hate the West, Vegas has almost a 30% chance to make the WCF and they must think the East will be a dogfight...:
top 5 best defenseman IMO, worst case top 10. So many people discount Coffey as a by-product of Gretzky, but it's not even remotely true. Skating wise he was second only to Orr.
I like the Flyers chances, but I think the Bruins are being severely underestimated especially in a re-seeding vs bracket.
I would love to see Habs vs B's if the Habs can beat the Pens (no clue why MTL would be favored over the Pens).
Similar Edmonton-Chicago
but... go Habs go regardless - fuck Pittsburgh and it would improve the NYR/CAR draft pick if they lose
I just don't see how MTL is favored especially at a neutral site. Carey Price is not Carey Price of 2014. He can't win a series and the MTL D is pretty brutal and they don't have any stars up front. Against Crosby, Malkin, and Guentzel? Not to mention the Pens were buyers at the deadline.
no way I'd favor MTL in that series and I doubt they win it.
but I can't change it, so I will hope for the best.
no doubt in my mind. We discussed that earlier. Lemieux to Crosby to Lafreniere.
I would really think about this, but some of you guys would know better than I would when it comes to how our G prospects are doing.
We've lived through 10+ years of having one of the best goalies in the league and it hasn't gotten us anywhere.
the trend on goalies is they're being drafted much later (Shesterkin was a 4th round pick) and many are making it to the NHL later.
top line centers are going top 5 in the draft.
I don't think you necessarily need an elite goalie to win a cup, you need a hot goalie (sometimes it's the same sometimes not) but almost every cup winner has that elite 1C. Maybe it's Mika, he's certainly putting himself in that group with his play lately. The one-year jump from him has been remarkable. but you can never have enough C's.
I've always heard Orr's skating described as so smooth that he seemed to just glide over the ice as if he weren't skating hard at all but no one could catch him, just effortless (as compared to someone like Bure, who was blazing fast but was all churning arms and legs as he did it). To me that desribes Coffey to a T, too - he looked like he was just cruising along but he'd blow right by people as he did it.
It's hard to compare eras, but man was that brand of hockey entertaining. So much more movement and pace than we generally see today, which is itself more than we saw in the dead puck era.
I know its all rumor so probably not accurate, but who else are they asking for in the package?
And could we make that work salary cap wise?
the trend on goalies is they're being drafted much later (Shesterkin was a 4th round pick) and many are making it to the NHL later.
top line centers are going top 5 in the draft.
I don't think you necessarily need an elite goalie to win a cup, you need a hot goalie (sometimes it's the same sometimes not) but almost every cup winner has that elite 1C. Maybe it's Mika, he's certainly putting himself in that group with his play lately. The one-year jump from him has been remarkable. but you can never have enough C's.
Points per game Mika is 5th in the NHL and Panarin is 3rd.
Mika is a NO doubt 1C - perhaps top 5 in the NHL, he plays on the penalty kill also.
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I think I would do it, but it depends what other pieces BUF asked for.
the trend on goalies is they're being drafted much later (Shesterkin was a 4th round pick) and many are making it to the NHL later.
top line centers are going top 5 in the draft.
I don't think you necessarily need an elite goalie to win a cup, you need a hot goalie (sometimes it's the same sometimes not) but almost every cup winner has that elite 1C. Maybe it's Mika, he's certainly putting himself in that group with his play lately. The one-year jump from him has been remarkable. but you can never have enough C's.
Points per game Mika is 5th in the NHL and Panarin is 3rd.
Mika is a NO doubt 1C - perhaps top 5 in the NHL, he plays on the penalty kill also.
Mika is good but top 5 is pushing it.
McKinnon
McDavid
Draisaitl
Stamkos
Pastrnak
Matthews
All easily ahead of him and I omitted a number of people because of age
but whatever, rankings are opinions, so I don't get too hung up on my own or other people's.
Mika had a great year, and his improvement from last year to this one was enormous.
I don't think he's top 5 but yeah, he played like a legit 1C this year. I think he'd need to maintain this pace to show it's not an anomaly, but he's definitely on the right trajectory.
but whatever, rankings are opinions, so I don't get too hung up on my own or other people's.
Mika had a great year, and his improvement from last year to this one was enormous.
I don't think he's top 5 but yeah, he played like a legit 1C this year. I think he'd need to maintain this pace to show it's not an anomaly, but he's definitely on the right trajectory.
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Yeah, I've read it. Kotkaniemi and Domi plus a 1st is a no-brainer and I love KK and Domi, but man that 1C is elusive. I like Nick Suziki a lot too - he's a name to watch for non-Habs fans as a player who could emerge as a star. Such a smart player. Hate to say it, but he reminds me a little of Patrice Bergeron.
I read some people try and shoe horn a 2021 1st into that trade too, and I think that may be a little steep unless BUF sends Ristolainen back too.