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@jessi_pierce
Gary Bettman & #NHL to make a formal announcement on Return to Play for 2019-20 today at 3:30 CT on NBCSN and NHL Network[/quote]
I believe the 24-team "playoff/play-in" was approved. some details remained though, such as draft, seedings for the top 4 in each conference, logistics like location, testing/symptom handling, etc.
below is the proposed "playoff/play-in"
I believe this is what was approved.
You made a salient statement.
For once.
And other than shoddy internet I have to say not a bad job from Bettman.
On 6/26 they'll have the lottery.
And if all 3 top picks are from the 7 teams not in the play-in then it's only one phase.
if one of the teams from the play-in gets a top 3 pick they'll have a phase 2 to determine which team got the top 3 pick and where everyone else picks.
I don't understand how they figure it out if for example team 8 wins pick 1. Who is team 8? Because today it would be team 24, but what if CHI or MTL (whoever you have as team 24) wins their play-in series - then they count in the 16 playoff teams.
So, that's why phase 2 will be after the play-in round.
The draft is going to be a mess.
I still think they'd be better served just waiting until after the play-in round and have one phase with 15 lottery team, but....
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
NHL Draft Lottery will be on Friday June 26. The Nos. 1, 2 and 3 picks will be up for grabs. Fifteen teams — the seven who are no longer playing plus 8 more currently identified as Teams A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H — will be in the lottery. Same lottery odds as prior years.
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
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Teams A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H will be the eight losing teams from the best-of-five play-in or qualifying round but assigning actual teams to the letters will come in a Phase 2 lottery, to be conducted after the qualifying round but before the playoffs.
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
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If the winner of the No. 1 pick draw comes from the bottom 7 seven teams (DET, OTT, SJ (belongs to OTT), LA, ANA, NJ, BUF), that team is awarded No. 1. If the winner of the No. 1 pick draw comes from the other 8 teams, the No. 1 pick will be awarded in the Phase 2 lottery.
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
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If the winner of the No. 2 pick draw comes from the bottom 7 seven teams (DET, OTT, SJ (belongs to OTT), LA, ANA, NJ, BUF), that team is awarded No. 2. If the winner of the No. 2 pick draw comes from the other 8 teams, the No. 2 pick will be awarded in the Phase 2 lottery.
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
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17m
If the winner of the No. 3 pick draw comes from the bottom 7 seven teams (DET, OTT, SJ (belongs to OTT), LA, ANA, NJ, BUF), that team is awarded No. 3. If the winner of the No. 3 pick draw comes from the other 8 teams, the No. 3 pick will be awarded in the Phase 2 lottery.
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
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Once the top three picks have been awarded in Phase 1 or Phase 2, the remaining 12 spots will be assigned to the teams that didn’t win a draw and based on inverse order of their regular season points percentage at the time of the pause.
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
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@TSNBobMcKenzie
If all three of the top picks are awarded to the known bottom 7 teams, there is no need for a Phase 2 lottery. If any of the top three picks are won by an 8 to 15 alpha-designated team, the Phase 2 lottery is required.
Lemieux to Crosby to Lafreniere
Lemieux to Crosby to Lafreniere
Don't give Bettman any ideas
Kovalchuk
Scandella
Nate Thompson
the only other "seller" I think in the play-in would be the Wild and they traded Zucker to the Pens.
off the top of my head.
I agree, even Bettman's press conference was well done (sans sketchy internet).
It sure seems like they are putting health first, want to make it fair when they return, and are trying to give the fans what they want.
Empty arenas in the playoffs? Isn't that concept very much alike with 2003 NJ Devil home games? Woooooooo
As much as people are concerned with a rushed end to this season/playoffs, I think it's going to be bad for teams like BUF and DET (for example - really any of the 7 that don't qualify for the play-in) that will now possibly go from early March 2020 to January 2021 with no meaningful hockey.
@amandacstein
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Bill Daly says the league is sensitive to the seven NHL teams who are not participating in the playoffs and the long lay-off they will have between seasons.
That's something the league will be looking at going forward and there might be different off-season rules as a result.
Jared Book
@jaredbook
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Bill Daly says that as of right now, the league's position is that no club is entitled to sign a current year contract, which would mean TBD contract start dates would have to be pushed to 2020-21.
However, the decision will have to be made with the NHLPA.
Yes, but Leafs pick is top 10 protected in 2020, so unless it's 11 - 15 they wouldn't get it AFAIK and then it depends on CAR vs NYR result.
If CAR wins, then the Rangers get a lottery pick (their own) and CAR pick.
If NYR win then they get a lottery pick - the worse pick of CAR or TOR if I understand it right.
Toronto loses to the Blue Jackets, Carolina loses to New York (on New York's way to the Stanley Cup), BOTH Carolina and Toronto win the lottery: We get Carolina's pick, no matter what it is (even first overall).
Toronto loses to the Blue Jackets, Carolina loses to New York (on New York's way to the Stanley Cup), BOTH Carolina and Toronto win the lottery: We get Carolina's pick, no matter what it is (even first overall).
And wouldn't that suck for Carolina. They get ousted in the first round, win the lottery and the #1 overall pick by some miracle...but because Toronto won also and will be picking in the top-10, the Jerks will have to give that #1 overall pick to the team that ousted them in the playoffs.
Oh, and they would have Brady Skjei to show for it
I hope Romanov isn't caught up in this too.
Jokke Nevalainen
@JokkeNevalainen
90/95% chance Sorokin and Kaprizov stay in the KHL for another season? That's not good.
I hope Romanov isn't caught up in this too.
Jokke Nevalainen
@JokkeNevalainen
90/95% chance Sorokin and Kaprizov stay in the KHL for another season? That's not good.
Of course. The isles are a joke. Still nobody wants to play here. Good thing varlarmov was brought in over lehner cause he was gonna help bring sorokin over
“I wonder at the insight of correspondents who write information that does not contain any solid things. Unfortunately, the time without hockey in Russia pushes many correspondents to some sensation. There is no sensation here. Sorokin and Kaprizov have ended their contracts with the club, and they are not negotiating with the club, ”Esmantovich said in an interview with Championship correspondent Pavel Panyshev.
I'm not linking to the .ru site.
This plan had little effect on ottawa so I don't really care, but I think this format is ridiculous. Just looks like they bent over to ensure Chicago, NYR and Monteal get to play. Big markets, big fan base, etc. I get it, they need as much attention as they can get but it seems silly to me. Oh well, no point bitching about it, unless you are NJ.
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CSKA president Igor Esmantovich commented on the information that goalkeeper Ilya Sorokin and striker Kirill Kaprizov will remain in the “army” club for next season.
“I wonder at the insight of correspondents who write information that does not contain any solid things. Unfortunately, the time without hockey in Russia pushes many correspondents to some sensation. There is no sensation here. Sorokin and Kaprizov have ended their contracts with the club, and they are not negotiating with the club, ”Esmantovich said in an interview with Championship correspondent Pavel Panyshev.
I'm not linking to the .ru site.
Good, hope it's just for clicks. the guy I quoted was a Fin though, not a Russian, but I imagine he got it elsewhere (Russia)
In any case will be fun to see TBL knocked out early again.
@SportsLine
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We simulated the #NHL playoffs 10,000 times and these teams won the Cup most often:
TB 17.9%
WAS 10.8%
COL 10.4%
BOS 9.8%
NYR 8.4%
STL 6.9%
PHI 5.8%
VGK 4.9%
TOR 4.5%
EDM 4.0%
VAN 2.9%
NAS 2.9%
MIN 2.9%
FLA 2.4%
PIT 1.7%
CAR 1.1%
WIN 1.0%
ARI, DAL, CAL, CHI, MON, NYI, CBJ < 1%
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Sorokin and Kaprizov will be in the KHL another year. I thought Kaprizov signed his ELC, but I guess due to circumstances around 2020-2021 season begin, it makes more sense for them to stay in Russia.
I hope Romanov isn't caught up in this too.
Jokke Nevalainen
@JokkeNevalainen
90/95% chance Sorokin and Kaprizov stay in the KHL for another season? That's not good.
Of course. The isles are a joke. Still nobody wants to play here. Good thing varlarmov was brought in over lehner cause he was gonna help bring sorokin over
How can you, with a straight face, blame the Isles for this?
a couple posts after my post, it was refuted.
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Sorokin and Kaprizov will be in the KHL another year. I thought Kaprizov signed his ELC, but I guess due to circumstances around 2020-2021 season begin, it makes more sense for them to stay in Russia.
I hope Romanov isn't caught up in this too.
Jokke Nevalainen
@JokkeNevalainen
90/95% chance Sorokin and Kaprizov stay in the KHL for another season? That's not good.
Of course. The isles are a joke. Still nobody wants to play here. Good thing varlarmov was brought in over lehner cause he was gonna help bring sorokin over
How can you, with a straight face, blame the Isles for this?
Well, why can the rangers get Igor over but the Isles cant get sorokin? Should've signed Lehner and been done with it. We wouldnt have to care about Sorokin. The tandem of Varlarmov and Greiss has been awful
This plan had little effect on ottawa so I don't really care, but I think this format is ridiculous. Just looks like they bent over to ensure Chicago, NYR and Monteal get to play. Big markets, big fan base, etc. I get it, they need as much attention as they can get but it seems silly to me. Oh well, no point bitching about it, unless you are NJ.
Let the hate flow... seriously though I see an issue with Chicago, Montreal and Arizona getting another shot... but NYR ... two points... back of Toronto and Columbus with 12 games left for all teams... one point ahead of Florida with one extra game played... and 1- and 2-points back, respectively, of NYI and Carolina while ceding two games. None of that is insurmountable.
NYR deserved their shot... maybe not in this best of 5 format with such as high a seed as Carolina, but one could have easily argued for a best of 3 or one game playoff with Florida... to then get into a 20 team tournament.
Considering MLB cant get its shit together on economics, football is at huge risk since they start in the Fall when that second spike probably does come to some degree, and basketball is looking at late July at best....
I'm not going to complain about this hockey plan at all.
I probably would have just kept it at the 16 current playoff teams and said too bad if you were close, seasons end and the only gripe I think would be NYI because they had two games in hand on the 7th and 8th place teams and were only 1 pt behind them. Similar with MIN in the West.
I will gladly take the playoffs over a chance at the lottery every single time I have that choice.
But from what I read no team has worse odds at the SCF and hurt their lottery odds more than MTL.
@seanshapiro
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Max Domi is a diabetic, Canadiens have said he won’t play when season resumes if it’s not safe. twitter.com/magodin/status…
and then Sam Stern added this about Kakko:
@SternScouting
This is *exactly* what the Rangers need to do with Kakko.
His legs were gassed all year and considering he’s a diabetic as well it seems like the safe move.
Absolutely no need to risk injury or illness.
Let him recover and come back strong next season.
He has both.
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But "recover" from what exactly? Seems like a dramatic tweet. And we're going to be living with this thing for years if not longer... they'll have to make the same decision in the fall/winter, in fact next season is probably more dangerous than this summer.
I just don't know if he or Domi are at greater risk of something COVID related due to their medical conditions.
Cirelli taking a job as a waiter was kind of funny.
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Chalk it up to another glacially slow corona day and nothing worthwhile to discuss.
Larry Brooks
@NYP_Brooksie
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On zoom conference call, John Davidson says that Rangers "will listen to science and the medical people" regarding playing status of Kaapo Kakko, who has type 1 diabetes.
Also,
Friedman has a brief blurb on Lias Andersson and the potential for him to play in today's return(?) of 31 thoughts. Doesn't sound like he knows anything more speculating based on the contract status.
B) Making the Rangers win 4 of 5 to advance against them.
It's unknown whether they also proposed that Shesterkin would have to play without a stick, or Panarin and Zib would have to skate with their laces untied.
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@PierreVLeBrun
So NHL training camps won't start before July 10, although that doesn't mean they will start on July 10 necessarily. Just that they won't open before July 10. Inch by inch, people, inch by inch...
B) Making the Rangers win 4 of 5 to advance against them.
It's unknown whether they also proposed that Shesterkin would have to play without a stick, or Panarin and Zib would have to skate with their laces untied.
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I understand where the Hurricanes are coming from, they werent at risk of missing the postseason so this is added risk. I'm surprised the Penguins and the 5-6 seeds in the west didnt also fight this solution... especially as we are now seeing training camps wont start until mid July which is really disappointing and overly conservative in my view.
As I've said a few times, the Rangers did deserve a shot though - I would have had them play a one-game playoff with Florida given how tight they were in the standings (Rangers led by one point but played one more game, so its not reasonable to just award Florida on a fractions of point higher PPG). Then had 20 playoff teams total.
Regardless now that this is being pushed out so far i'm not sure we'll even see this get played out.
B) Making the Rangers win 4 of 5 to advance against them.
It's unknown whether they also proposed that Shesterkin would have to play without a stick, or Panarin and Zib would have to skate with their laces untied.
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They nervous. They reeeeeeeeallly nervous. And we smell it.
Canes D should be good, I don't think they were counting on having Hamilton when they traded for Skjei and Vatanen (Hamilton is a RD and Skjei LD, but I'm still not sure they acquire Skjei if Hamilton was healthy). They're legit 8 D deep.
Biggest weakness IMO for CAR is in net. Mrazek has been good, but I've never been a fan of his.
Because they definitely were if the season played out as normal
To you guys that play or have played hockey competitively, how do you see the level of play going in these playoffs? I feel like the most skilled players are going to take over more than usual. In normal years, a good team effort can neutralize star players, but who knows if teams/players will be comfortable after such a long pause