Jon Halapio @JonHalapio
Thank you God for healing me and bringing me to this point in my rehab process. 1st time doing some explosive work. I’m at 21 weeks post Achilles op. Feeling great and staying ahead! God is helping me grow and heal. BUT I never been scared to get to work
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I hope they go with Gates, Lemieux etc. Take our lumps early, but get someone at Center with a greater upside.
If so, I hope it is cause one of the other guys excels.
Same
Agreed, while I would rather have him back over Pulley I am hoping that neither is on the Giants roster this season.
Friendly reminder that no one here liked Shaun O’Hara after 2004.
I think the only football person who thinks relatively highly of Halapio is Dave. The NYG might be the only team in the league where he probably is a starter.
So if he does comeback, succeed in those efforts and is like the NFL "Comeback Player of the Year", you'd like to see him wearing a Jets uniform than the Giants, why???
Help me understand.
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But I hope his comeback is with a different franchise.
So if he does comeback, succeed in those efforts and is like the NFL "Comeback Player of the Year", you'd like to see him wearing a Jets uniform than the Giants, why???
Help me understand.
its annoying yet comical when I see basic average people/fans call pro athletes bums.
If there was a presumed starter I'd think different but there is just as much mental as it is technical. I want the right guy in there who can make the line calls over.
Dont understand why this is even an issue
I would like to see a Center with more upside but anyone who thinks a starter can appear from players who have never played the position is living in a dream world. Better hope for a trade, waiver pickup or the rookie from Rhode Island. At least he has played the position.
And I hope he gets a chance to play professional football again (maybe Canada?).
But I've seen enough in his stint here to tell that the positives I mentioned to carry over to the field on gameday.
Was the reason poor health or poor coaching?
My theory is that despite poor coaching or poor health, if Halapio was any good, he would have had at least one or two good games. Those good games would show that he has the ability to be an NFL starter.
However, if Halapio's play was uniformly dismal last year, then the Giants should have been looking harder for a replacement this year.
I did not focus on Halapio last year. Did he have any games where he played well?
God Bless him and hope he has a complete recovery; somewhere else.
Like most of you, I don't see it. Perhaps the new staff sees diferently.
Thats just reality.
Halapio is probably one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. Wish him the best, personally. But lets all hope Nick Gates can take the Center job from him and Pulley (or the lesser likelihood that Lemieux learns in a hurry)
Was the reason poor health or poor coaching?
My theory is that despite poor coaching or poor health, if Halapio was any good, he would have had at least one or two good games. Those good games would show that he has the ability to be an NFL starter.
However, if Halapio's play was uniformly dismal last year, then the Giants should have been looking harder for a replacement this year.
I did not focus on Halapio last year. Did he have any games where he played well?
Good question. So, to find an answer, I looked at Sy'56's Game Reviews from 2019. He gave Halapio high marks after the opener against Dallas, listed him as one of his three "studs." But it was all downhill after that.
Sy wrote this after the Green Bay game:
And this after the final game against the Eagles:
Right now we have 1 guy that has actually played C in games in Pulley. I think we all agree that he isnt very good considering he couldnt beat out Pio who was terrible. I am not a fan of Pio but maybe the coaches can bring out his best. for some reason, the Giants thought enough of him in the past to have him as their starter for a few seasons. Maybe there something there.
All I know is that we need better play at Center no matter what.
Thats just reality.
Halapio is probably one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. Wish him the best, personally. But lets all hope Nick Gates can take the Center job from him and Pulley (or the lesser likelihood that Lemieux learns in a hurry)
He is 28, but has only played center for two injury shorten seasons with the Giants. 2 games in 2018 and 15 in 2019. 17 games total.
If PIO became a barely average starter, we'd be fine with that.
I hope they go with Gates, Lemieux etc. Take our lumps early, but get someone at Center with a greater upside.
Agreed, Joh H and Pulley are not pro Centers
If PIO became a barely average starter, we'd be fine with that.
JFC, for once in your life, take off the blue-colored glasses. Halapio may have a future in pro wrestling, but he's not a pro football player. That's not a crime. Very few people can play pro football, let alone play it at a high level. Halapio simply isn't one of those people. Face that fact and move on.
If PIO became a barely average starter, we'd be fine with that.
No, you would be fine with that. Losing has become the new norm around here and this whole post underpins that same sentiment. You state he is probably a bad starter but that somehow works for you. Wake up.
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an average starter means you're a good player. Pio isn't that, totally agree. He's probably a bad starter, but a bad starter is better than a bad backup or worse. And maybe the Giants see potential in him that has yet to come to fruition. Maybe it never does. But some of you fail to see the distinction between a terrible player with NO upside and a player that struggled last year but might be a decent backup or develop into a solid starter, one day.
If PIO became a barely average starter, we'd be fine with that.
JFC, for once in your life, take off the blue-colored glasses. Halapio may have a future in pro wrestling, but he's not a pro football player. That's not a crime. Very few people can play pro football, let alone play it at a high level. Halapio simply isn't one of those people. Face that fact and move on.
Nope. And what I’m saying is hardly blue colored glasses. The guy might get cut tomorrow for all we know. I’m just saying we don’t know why the giants stuck with him for this long but what i am sure of is bad players can turn into decent players thanks to player development.
Why this take angers you i don’t know. I wasn’t even implying that Pio has a future more I was trying to calm some of you down for WHY they stuck with him for so long.
I said the giants were basically doomed after the first quarter of the 2017 season. I’m not always Pollyanna and when I am it’s always with a slice of reality mixed in. I hope for the best. I don’t fucking bet on it. This place is a cesspool of negativity lately. I’ve forgotten more about football than most know. I’m hopeful, too bad.
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an average starter means you're a good player. Pio isn't that, totally agree. He's probably a bad starter, but a bad starter is better than a bad backup or worse. And maybe the Giants see potential in him that has yet to come to fruition. Maybe it never does. But some of you fail to see the distinction between a terrible player with NO upside and a player that struggled last year but might be a decent backup or develop into a solid starter, one day.
If PIO became a barely average starter, we'd be fine with that.
JFC, for once in your life, take off the blue-colored glasses. Halapio may have a future in pro wrestling, but he's not a pro football player. That's not a crime. Very few people can play pro football, let alone play it at a high level. Halapio simply isn't one of those people. Face that fact and move on.
Nope. And what I’m saying is hardly blue colored glasses. The guy might get cut tomorrow for all we know. I’m just saying we don’t know why the giants stuck with him for this long but what i am sure of is bad players can turn into decent players thanks to player development.
Why this take angers you i don’t know. I wasn’t even implying that Pio has a future more I was trying to calm some of you down for WHY they stuck with him for so long.
I said the giants were basically doomed after the first quarter of the 2017 season. I’m not always Pollyanna and when I am it’s always with a slice of reality mixed in. I hope for the best. I don’t fucking bet on it. This place is a cesspool of negativity lately. I’ve forgotten more about football than most know. I’m hopeful, too bad.
Because you cling to the hope that somehow, some way, by the grace of God and all the Saints, Jon Halapio will become a serviceable player at the very least, and the Giants should keep him around just in case that happens. You're clinging to the hope that Halapio will become something he isn't, has never been, and in all likelihood never will be. As I said, face that fact and move on.
Or, you can get a job at this place.
Some times these guys work out some times they don’t. Most of the time these Long shot type guys don’t work out. Teams still take these shots all the time. Giants are apparently giving him one more shot. I guess they are total fucking idiots too for as long as Pio is employed with them. He’s probably done but until then I hope for the best. Wtf is wrong with that. Relax.
Some times these guys work out some times they don’t. Most of the time these Long shot type guys don’t work out. Teams still take these shots all the time. Giants are apparently giving him one more shot. I guess they are total fucking idiots too for as long as Pio is employed with them. He’s probably done but until then I hope for the best. Wtf is wrong with that. Relax.
Oh, puh-leeze. "Relax."
I relaxed last year, when just prior to the opener, I tried to tell you that the Giants offense wasn't anywhere near as good as the Cowboys offense (primarily because their offensive line was so much better than ours), and that Michael Gallup was going to kill us, but you dismissed that out of hand, and chose to blather on about how great our offense was going to be, how it was on par with Dallas, yadda, yadda, yadda. I "relaxed" by not coming back afterwards with an "I told you so" post. I shook my head, let it go, and watched another season go straight down the toilet.
But your continued cloying devotion to anything and anyone in blue, no matter how abysmal...your refusal to find fault with anything that has an "NY" logo on it borders on nauseating. The "Pio experiment" is a perfect example. They tried, it failed miserably, yet you would be fine with them trying it again. I'm reminded of this quote that's often incorrectly attributed to Einstein, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."
Instead of demanding excellence, you seem quite content with mediocrity, and are more interested in chastising those who call the Giants out for their missteps than in having the team not make any more. If "[t]his place is a cesspool of negativity lately," it's only because the team has given us almost ten years of reasons to be negative.
The failure to realize mistakes and therefore take no steps to correct them is a primary reason the Giants have been the worst team in the league for the past several years. That has to change. Hopefully, the new regime understands this, even if you don't.
I hate when people call me a liar and put words in my mouth. LI can take a lot of things, but not that.
There's context. I was screaming from the hilltops to fire Mcadoo after week 1 2017. I wanted Shurmur gone early on 2019. I said it was time to move on from Eli week 3 2019.
Just because you disagree with something, even something as stupid as seeing if a middling player like Pio can salvage his career IF THE GIANTS STILL BELIEVE IN HIM, does't give you the right to twist shit around and make it sound like I defend everything this franchise does. I defend what I don't know enough about.
Christ, this is fucking stupid. I'm done. I don't give a fuck anymore. I just don't like it when people twist shit around to spin something up. But that's message board culture. You can win and be happy about it if it suits you. But I never said the shit you referenced and if i did it was taken out of context.
Honestly, id rather be an optimist than a miserable fuck like some are around here. And ill say it again, I have forgotten more football and Giants behavior than some of you will ever know. There's trust in my posts even if you can't stomach some of the hopeful takes I bring.
That's it now I am really done.