First off I think this is an awful chapter in MLB history, though at some point I kind of felt like 59 rounds of a draft and 5+ levels of minor leagues was a little overkill.
If they did this and paid the rest a lot more than maybe I can see some logic in it, but for now I feel bad for these players.
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Sources: The Mets released 39 minor league players today. Here they are: |
and then Ryan Church - a former 2nd round pick had this to say on his way out - sounds like he's not a big fan of the organization - or Tebow:
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and then Ryan Church - a former 2nd round pick had this to say on his way out:
And I agree with you this is not good for baseball.
Ryan Church has to be over 40 years old by now.
But cream always rises to the top and as a pitcher you’re largely in control of your results.
Good luck to him moving forward.
I get it is easy to blame the Wilpons, but at some point it is more than that. Outside of 2016 he was allowing over 12 H/9 IP while striking out less than 6/9 IP. Really hard to have a future if you are not missing bats and that was even before his “injury.” There are a few surprising names on the list, but most of the guys on there were low minors back-ups. I think the Mets were trying to cut some of the excess before the draft as this year’s UDFA is going to be a lot different (only 5 round draft and UDFA’s have a max signing bonus of $20k each). If you cut the guys who have no role perhaps you are more attractive to a UDFA that is getting the same money from another team because of greater opportunities for AB’s/innings up the line.
As an aside, that unmentioned-by-name player should have an adjoining seat on the bus out of town with Church.
is an asshole
1, I lose some respect when someone lives through something and then fails and then points back to something specific as an excuse. Just reeks of defeatism.
2, He says at the end "watch out when I'm motivated" or something like that. Why wasn't he motivated his entire career? And maybe if he was motivated from the beginning he would have made it to the majors and not shit the bed in the minors. He was a 2nd round pick, so even allowing for MLB randomness in draft picks, he should have made the majors.
Was giving Tebow a shot really that crazy? The guy is known to be a great athlete and hard-worker. Some other MLB organization would have signed him if the Mets didn't.
that said, it's not like he's really blocking anyone due to the sad state of the Mets OFers in the system and Church is a pitcher, so he definitely wasn't impacted by it.
I think a number of them have. I saw earlier in the week, the White Sox (I believe) let at least 25 go. IMO, it's an inevitability with most teams, with the contraction of the minors, and the fact they may not even play this year.
Releasing minor leaguers makes them free agents and is being done I believe 100% due to the contraction of the minor league teams.
Because they may not play this year - that is what the A's did - just stopped paying them but kept their rights and prevented them from collecting unemployment.
What the A's did to minor leaguers they are keeping is IMO far worse than what teams like the Mets are doing to minor leaguers they are not keeping.
One point I read on twitter - not sure if it's 100% accurate is that with the contraction of the minor leagues being what it is today - the potential for players like deGrom and McNeil (late developers) is lessened.
deGrom was a 9th round pick who didn't reach the majors until 26, McNeil was a 12th round pick who didn't reach the majors until 26 (due to injury and other issues)
Other than Alonso, not sure there are two more important Mets.
Yeah the Tebow hate is odd and seems like he's just trying to score points considering Tebow has possibly had more success than Church did (pre-Tebow or post). I mean in 4 years of sub-A ball the guy had a 5 era and same with his 8 years above A ball. Tebow's AA year with a .730 OPS is a lot better than Church's AA career (1-8 with a 7.1 era).
I get the injury point he raises, I'd be pissed if I blew my arm like that, but the rest of it is literally the job description of minor league baseball. Going from one place to another. Another way he could have looked at all those roles and moves would have been opportunities to do well and advance himself - if he'd been able to perform and do so. If you pitch like a mop up guy you shouldn't be surprised you turn into a mop up guy.
About a third of the teams have released large numbers of minor leaguers in the past few days. Jeff Passan has reported there will be "hundreds" more over the next week. (A small part of this is that there weren't as many releases during training camp as usual - 130 minor leaguers were released this March, compared to 300 last March).
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Embarrassed himself on his return home
Was too big to go back to A ball
Quit on his team, before literally quitting
He’s had a longer history of underperforming, than the Mets have of doing stupid/cheap things. Think about that...
The Mets aren't blameless in these finger pointing situations because they do it with players all the time. And former owners. And prospective owners. And current minority owners who are also prospective owners offering a crazy valuation.
Not saying that makes them wrong in this situation, Church sounds whiny for a guy who they gave a good opportunity and was an outright bust, but there's always an element of 'lay with dogs you're gonna get flees' with this organization under the Wilpons.
not a result of COVID at all.
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just as much as covid?
not a result of COVID at all.
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In comment 14913308 CGiants07 said:
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just as much as covid?
not a result of COVID at all.
If COVID provides the scapegoat for such moves, isn't it sort of the result of COVID?
MLB had plans to contract the minor leagues and remove teams before COVID became a thing.
these releases are a result of minor league contraction - the Mets lost two teams - not the result of not playing baseball due to COVID. IOW if there was never a pandemic these releases would still be happening.