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NFT: Arod and J-Lo to make another run at buying the Mets

pjcas18 : 5/29/2020 8:52 pm
seems like the Wilpons are getting desperate.

Allegedly SNY (or part of it) is being included.


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Part of the plan  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2020 9:04 pm : link
is a bigger development project in the area around Citifield - similar in some ways it sounds like to what the Krafts have done around Gillette with Patriot Place.

They have consulted with Kraft it seems, but the article mentions the Krafts aren't interested in buying a baseball team. It will be interesting to see if they invest.

As much as I hate the Patriots, Patriot Place is pretty cool.
Wilpons  
CMicks3110 : 5/29/2020 9:05 pm : link
need to sell, sick of this drama, just get the transaction done and we can stop talking about their incompetence forever. I prefer they sell to Cohen, but if they can get enough cash and fulfill their vision, the JROD ownership could work.
pjcas18  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/29/2020 9:06 pm : link
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Pats THIS close to moving to St. Louis & becoming like the St. Louis Stallions? I think they had the logo & everything ready.
RE: Part of the plan  
Mad Mike : 5/29/2020 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14913369 pjcas18 said:
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As much as I hate the Patriots, Patriot Place is pretty cool.

Are you suggesting the Iron Triangle leaves something to be desired?
RE: RE: Part of the plan  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2020 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14913373 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 14913369 pjcas18 said:


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As much as I hate the Patriots, Patriot Place is pretty cool.


Are you suggesting the Iron Triangle leaves something to be desired?


Well if you want your car detailed (or chopped) you could do worse. lol.
RE: pjcas18  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2020 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14913372 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Pats THIS close to moving to St. Louis & becoming like the St. Louis Stallions? I think they had the logo & everything ready.


Orthwein planned to move to STL. He was from there, but ironically Kraft blocked it (he wouldn't let him break the stadium lease or something like that and Kraft owned the stadium - for years before buying the team).

Kraft then bought the team and used Hartford, CT as a pawn (threatening to move to Hartford - and even allowing the builders to break ground on a stadium site) to get infrastructure funding from MA to build a new stadium in Foxborough.

This is getting so stupid at this point.  
robbieballs2003 : 5/29/2020 9:21 pm : link
Isn't this the third go round now? They were in and then backed out. No, they're in again. Wait, no they aren't. They're back again.
RE: This is getting so stupid at this point.  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2020 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14913378 robbieballs2003 said:
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Isn't this the third go round now? They were in and then backed out. No, they're in again. Wait, no they aren't. They're back again.


I think a few things have happened:

1. COVID lingering perhaps causing some Wilpon desperation
2. Including at least part of SNY
3. The plans for building up willets point

I think it's always been about money, but now I think it could be more attractive to get the money from investors than it was before and maybe the price becomes more reasonable. I won't pretend to know the Wilpons financial situation but I have read it described as "tenuous"

but mostly I agree. I think most Mets fans are so desperate to have new ownership these stories get amplified. And no one even knows what philosophy new owner would have to see if they're better than the Wilpons.
I’m impressed with Alex here  
Shecky : 5/29/2020 11:03 pm : link
If, BIG IF, it happens. Then Alex did his homework here!!! There is one and on,y one hot button for Fred, and it’s always been about building around the ballpark. Which is how/why Jeff slid into the role HE wanted. Again, big IF but I think there is way more flames than just smoke since this centers inFreds one hot button that isn’t well known...
I'm against a 'coalition' purchasing the team  
Torrag : 5/29/2020 11:20 pm : link
More moving parts equate to slower, less effective decision making and potential financial limitations and/or instability.

That said I'll swallow my concerns to see the back of the worst NY sports franchise ownership in history.

RE: I'm against a 'coalition' purchasing the team  
Jim in Fairfax : 5/29/2020 11:48 pm : link
In comment 14913398 Torrag said:
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More moving parts equate to slower, less effective decision making and potential financial limitations and/or instability.

That said I'll swallow my concerns to see the back of the worst NY sports franchise ownership in history.

Any coalition without Jeffy is a giant leap forward.
Any chance Steve Cohen  
johnnyb : 5/30/2020 7:14 am : link
Re-enters the conversation? He has the ability to end this quickly. I personally am not a fan of Arod and would prefer Cohen be the white knight.
Arod  
Dragon : 5/30/2020 8:41 am : link
All those years as a New York Yankee and he does not understand the team across the river is a total disgrace. If he is so desperate to throw away millions just start your own franchise your chance of success is about 35/65 which is about the same with those guys. What’s the point in buying a team with little or no future that will put you way behind in money lost compared to money you have to loose? I know he has some money but can he afford to loose millions for years while he tries to pay himself and build a winning team. The money lost can’t matter to someone with a real goal of bringing that franchise out of the dark ages.
someone sure does sound...  
Italianju : 5/30/2020 9:17 am : link
like a closet Mets fans.
Well  
Jerry from Maine : 5/30/2020 9:30 am : link
If I to look at dumb ass owner at a Mets game I would rather look at J-Lo's.😁
RE: someone sure does sound...  
moze1021 : 5/30/2020 10:27 am : link
In comment 14913442 Italianju said:
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like a closet Mets fans.


If you're talking about Arod... nothing closet about it.. he's been very clear over the years he grew up a Mets fan, particularly a big fan of Keith.
The owners bandwagoning Mets fan deserve  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/30/2020 10:53 am : link
wearing their striped 90s parachute pants and sporting their John Franco moustache.
i was talking about the aggressive anti mets post just above...  
Italianju : 5/30/2020 11:38 am : link
mine...lol.
RE: i was talking about the aggressive anti mets post just above...  
moze1021 : 5/30/2020 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14913483 Italianju said:
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mine...lol.


LOL... my bad
RE: The owners bandwagoning Mets fan deserve  
Pete in MD : 5/30/2020 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14913467 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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wearing their striped 90s parachute pants and sporting their John Franco moustache.

There hasn’t been a Mets bandwagon in at least 20 years; probably more like 30.
RE: This is getting so stupid at this point.  
81_Great_Dane : 5/30/2020 9:39 pm : link
In comment 14913378 robbieballs2003 said:
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Isn't this the third go round now? They were in and then backed out. No, they're in again. Wait, no they aren't. They're back again.
It'a a negotiation. Negotiations like this aren't unusual in either sports or show business. IIRC Plaxico Burress was interested, then he wasn't, then he signed.
RE: RE: The owners bandwagoning Mets fan deserve  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/31/2020 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14913597 Pete in MD said:
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wearing their striped 90s parachute pants and sporting their John Franco moustache.


There hasn’t been a Mets bandwagon in at least 20 years; probably more like 30.

They seem to come out of the woodwork and swarming with their collective hive mind during a playoff run, like John Franco moustache sporting cicadas.
RE: RE: RE: The owners bandwagoning Mets fan deserve  
Pete in MD : 5/31/2020 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14913818 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14913597 Pete in MD said:


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In comment 14913467 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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wearing their striped 90s parachute pants and sporting their John Franco moustache.


There hasn’t been a Mets bandwagon in at least 20 years; probably more like 30.


They seem to come out of the woodwork and swarming with their collective hive mind during a playoff run, like John Franco moustache sporting cicadas.

That’s pretty much true for any fanbase. For example look, at the average attendance at Yankee Stadium in the 80s and early 90s (the last time the were bad for an extended period of time.) It was in the 20,000s many of those years. When they are contending, it’s in the high 40k to 50k range.
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speedywheels : 5/31/2020 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14913822 Pete in MD said:
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That’s pretty much true for any fanbase. For example look, at the average attendance at Yankee Stadium in the 80s and early 90s (the last time the were bad for an extended period of time.) It was in the 20,000s many of those years. When they are contending, it’s in the high 40k to 50k range.


What, you mean the pink Yankee hats weren't for diehard fans?

And all those girls/women wearing Jeter jerseys weren't diehards, either?

LOL...
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The owners bandwagoning Mets fan deserve  
Pete in MD : 5/31/2020 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14913834 speedywheels said:
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In comment 14913822 Pete in MD said:


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That’s pretty much true for any fanbase. For example look, at the average attendance at Yankee Stadium in the 80s and early 90s (the last time the were bad for an extended period of time.) It was in the 20,000s many of those years. When they are contending, it’s in the high 40k to 50k range.



What, you mean the pink Yankee hats weren't for diehard fans?

And all those girls/women wearing Jeter jerseys weren't diehards, either?

LOL...

Fred Durst of Limp Biskit too :-)
Not really true about the Yankees  
UConn4523 : 5/31/2020 3:17 pm : link
they reopened in 1976 with an average attendance of over 25k and only dipped below that a few times until the won in 1996. The rest from there we all know.

The Yankees brand also surged during this time and they’ve had their own network for almost 20 years. If they ever dip to 20k attendance again it would likely be game over for the MLB in its current form.

Of course there’s plenty of bandwagon fans but their attendance has historically been strong even during title droughts.
RE: Part of the plan  
Vanzetti : 5/31/2020 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14913369 pjcas18 said:
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is a bigger development project in the area around Citifield -



That would suck for the stolen auto parts business
RE: Arod  
MetsAreBack : 6/1/2020 10:48 am : link
In comment 14913432 Dragon said:
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All those years as a New York Yankee and he does not understand the team across the river is a total disgrace. If he is so desperate to throw away millions just start your own franchise your chance of success is about 35/65 which is about the same with those guys. What’s the point in buying a team with little or no future that will put you way behind in money lost compared to money you have to loose? I know he has some money but can he afford to loose millions for years while he tries to pay himself and build a winning team. The money lost can’t matter to someone with a real goal of bringing that franchise out of the dark ages.



This post was made sober? impressive economic theory and use of the word "loose" ...



Anyway, the Wilpons were in tenuous financial shape before CV which has hammered the commercial real estate market in the metro area... i'm surprised we havent read more about the sharks circling.
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