Anak's and every other pundits OL boy wonder collegiate T last year. On a couple of those highlighted plays, Lemieux looks better than Sewell. Like, a lot better as Sewell end up on the ground once, and looks like he's grabbing Jersey on another highlighted play.
I guess both of them playing alongside each other made their linemate look better.
I am very excited to see how Thomas, Peart, Lemieux, and Murphy perform. The Giants finally have some good young offensive linemen to develop including Hernandez and Gates.
My money is on Murphy or Gates. Gates has playing experience. Murphy has center experience. Lemieux has neither.
Not sure how this all pans out, but the video I have seen of Murphy, he sure looks like a road grader. Hoping one of Murphy or Lemieux comes close to Rich Seubert.(Maybe both?)
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selection day 3 of the draft today. And his position coach from Eugene started out raving about Lemieux's personality and character. Specifically his dedication as a student of the game, his "loyalty" to please his position coach to make that coach look good, and his intelligence.
Said he's a "lunch pail guy" - Parcels' old expression for the mid and late 80's Giants OL and DL workhorses - and repeated twice that Lemieux was an honorable mention all Academic selection, three years straight. Said he puts in lots of film study each week to understand his upcoming opponent, and thought that dedication would transition well to playing OC and making all the line calls properly.
He didn't even hardly speak of his physical playing ability, mentioning simply that "there's plenty of tape on that."
Hard to imaging a better review for a kid that isn't a ridiculous athlete.
Hernandez is your LG. Zeitler is you RG.. Is Lemieux in the mix for starting at center?
In the mix, yes. That's been stated both by Lemieux's camp and the Giants' coaches. But he has only practiced at OC, never played any position in college but LG.
So the likelihood of him starting the season as the 1st team OC seems slim.
Like Lou says no one knows. I think he seasons on the bench for year and acts as G/C depth while he learns the position. I would bet good money Pulley is the starter at Center day one.
Like Lou says no one knows. I think he seasons on the bench for year and acts as G/C depth while he learns the position. I would bet good money Pulley is the starter at Center day one.
Agree with this, although not 100% on Pulley. Kind of hoping an older veteran C with a decent track record shakes loose from another team via a cut that we can pick up down the road. But re: Lemieux..It would be utterly fantastic if he instantly picked up the C position and became a day 1 starter, but that is some serious wishful thinking IMHO. Ill settle for your scenario with no problem.
Like Lou says no one knows. I think he seasons on the bench for year and acts as G/C depth while he learns the position. I would bet good money Pulley is the starter at Center day one.
Agree with this, although not 100% on Pulley. Kind of hoping an older veteran C with a decent track record shakes loose from another team via a cut that we can pick up down the road. But re: Lemieux..It would be utterly fantastic if he instantly picked up the C position and became a day 1 starter, but that is some serious wishful thinking IMHO. Ill settle for your scenario with no problem.
Yeah that's basically the way I feel about it. We have not had a great center since O'Hara. I had high hopes for Richburg but that obviously didn't pan out (although I think we gave up on him too early). It would be absolutely awesome if Lemieux or Gates happens to pick it up enough to be really good... but man I would love for us to land somebody like a Mangold that could be our centerpiece on the OL for a few years.
Hernandez is your LG. Zeitler is you RG.. Is Lemieux in the mix for starting at center?
Why should Hernandez or Zeitler be handed anything?
Good point. I wouldn't be sad if Lemieux beats someone out at guard. But man it would be awesome if he kills it at center. Probably a long shot of that happening though.
Lemieux as a day 1 starter at Center feels more like
a pipe-dream but maybe he opens the coaches eyes. The hurdle right now for that starting job seems pretty low.
Would rather see him impress at his natural Guard position and push both underperforming Hernandez and somewhat aging Zeitler. Competition there is a good thing.
unusual to start a second year player in Jones at QB with a rookie Center, especially one who hasn't played Center before. He seemed to think that Pulley will be the starting Center because of his experience.
I had been thinking about Lemieux or Murphy as the starting Center on Opening Day. But O'Hara's comments made a lot of sense to me.
So, I looked at Pulley again.
From an athletic standpoint, he is the most athletic of all the offensive line players currently on the roster. He has Great speed in the 10 and 40 yard runs, Great burst in the Broad Jump and Vertical and has Elite agility in the Short Shuttle and 3-Cone. At 6' 4", 306 lbs., he's the same size as first round pick Cesar Ruiz and a player that many on BBI liked, and whom I drafted in my mock draft, in Matt Hennessy. At the Combine he did 28 lifts, while not as good as Hernandez's 37 or Zeitler's 32, it still puts Pulley in the Good classification for Strength. So, on paper he has all the physical attributes to be the starting Center.
All of my friends who graduated from Vanderbilt, as Pulley did, call it the Harvard of the South. So, maybe Pulley is really an intelligent guy.
So, where does that leave us? It should be noted that Pulley's line coach was Hal Hunter and possibly that's been the problem. Maybe Marc Colombo can develop Pulley into being a competent Center.
Or, on the other hand, despite being the most athletic offensive lineman we currently have and probably an intelligent guy, maybe he just can't play football at the NFL level.
Hernandez is your LG. Zeitler is you RG.. Is Lemieux in the mix for starting at center?
Why should Hernandez or Zeitler be handed anything?
I doubt anyone intends to "hand anyone anything"!
But it's a pretty safe bet that Hernandez, a third year vet former high 2nd round draft pick who hasn't done badly his first two seasons, at least, and Zietler a former 1st round pick entering his 9th season at only 29-30 years old, who's played darn close to a pro bowl level his entire career, both of whom have been iron men in terms of reliability to boot, have a big leg up on a Nebraska UDFA or a rookie 5th round Duck.
I guess both of them playing alongside each other made their linemate look better.
My money is on Murphy or Gates. Gates has playing experience. Murphy has center experience. Lemieux has neither.
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My money is on Murphy or Gates. Gates has playing experience. Murphy has center experience. Lemieux has neither.
Not sure how this all pans out, but the video I have seen of Murphy, he sure looks like a road grader. Hoping one of Murphy or Lemieux comes close to Rich Seubert.(Maybe both?)
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Said he's a "lunch pail guy" - Parcels' old expression for the mid and late 80's Giants OL and DL workhorses - and repeated twice that Lemieux was an honorable mention all Academic selection, three years straight. Said he puts in lots of film study each week to understand his upcoming opponent, and thought that dedication would transition well to playing OC and making all the line calls properly.
He didn't even hardly speak of his physical playing ability, mentioning simply that "there's plenty of tape on that."
Hard to imaging a better review for a kid that isn't a ridiculous athlete.
In the mix, yes. That's been stated both by Lemieux's camp and the Giants' coaches. But he has only practiced at OC, never played any position in college but LG.
So the likelihood of him starting the season as the 1st team OC seems slim.
But who knows? Right now no one.
Agree with this, although not 100% on Pulley. Kind of hoping an older veteran C with a decent track record shakes loose from another team via a cut that we can pick up down the road. But re: Lemieux..It would be utterly fantastic if he instantly picked up the C position and became a day 1 starter, but that is some serious wishful thinking IMHO. Ill settle for your scenario with no problem.
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Like Lou says no one knows. I think he seasons on the bench for year and acts as G/C depth while he learns the position. I would bet good money Pulley is the starter at Center day one.
Agree with this, although not 100% on Pulley. Kind of hoping an older veteran C with a decent track record shakes loose from another team via a cut that we can pick up down the road. But re: Lemieux..It would be utterly fantastic if he instantly picked up the C position and became a day 1 starter, but that is some serious wishful thinking IMHO. Ill settle for your scenario with no problem.
Yeah that's basically the way I feel about it. We have not had a great center since O'Hara. I had high hopes for Richburg but that obviously didn't pan out (although I think we gave up on him too early). It would be absolutely awesome if Lemieux or Gates happens to pick it up enough to be really good... but man I would love for us to land somebody like a Mangold that could be our centerpiece on the OL for a few years.
Why should Hernandez or Zeitler be handed anything?
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Hernandez is your LG. Zeitler is you RG.. Is Lemieux in the mix for starting at center?
Why should Hernandez or Zeitler be handed anything?
Good point. I wouldn't be sad if Lemieux beats someone out at guard. But man it would be awesome if he kills it at center. Probably a long shot of that happening though.
Would rather see him impress at his natural Guard position and push both underperforming Hernandez and somewhat aging Zeitler. Competition there is a good thing.
I had been thinking about Lemieux or Murphy as the starting Center on Opening Day. But O'Hara's comments made a lot of sense to me.
So, I looked at Pulley again.
From an athletic standpoint, he is the most athletic of all the offensive line players currently on the roster. He has Great speed in the 10 and 40 yard runs, Great burst in the Broad Jump and Vertical and has Elite agility in the Short Shuttle and 3-Cone. At 6' 4", 306 lbs., he's the same size as first round pick Cesar Ruiz and a player that many on BBI liked, and whom I drafted in my mock draft, in Matt Hennessy. At the Combine he did 28 lifts, while not as good as Hernandez's 37 or Zeitler's 32, it still puts Pulley in the Good classification for Strength. So, on paper he has all the physical attributes to be the starting Center.
All of my friends who graduated from Vanderbilt, as Pulley did, call it the Harvard of the South. So, maybe Pulley is really an intelligent guy.
So, where does that leave us? It should be noted that Pulley's line coach was Hal Hunter and possibly that's been the problem. Maybe Marc Colombo can develop Pulley into being a competent Center.
Or, on the other hand, despite being the most athletic offensive lineman we currently have and probably an intelligent guy, maybe he just can't play football at the NFL level.
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Hernandez is your LG. Zeitler is you RG.. Is Lemieux in the mix for starting at center?
Why should Hernandez or Zeitler be handed anything?
I doubt anyone intends to "hand anyone anything"!
But it's a pretty safe bet that Hernandez, a third year vet former high 2nd round draft pick who hasn't done badly his first two seasons, at least, and Zietler a former 1st round pick entering his 9th season at only 29-30 years old, who's played darn close to a pro bowl level his entire career, both of whom have been iron men in terms of reliability to boot, have a big leg up on a Nebraska UDFA or a rookie 5th round Duck.
Ya think?