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Ceiling for 2020 NYG?

Thegratefulhead : 6/3/2020 1:47 pm
I have always been a glass half full guy. I am generally overly optimistic about our chances in June. This year, with an entire new coaching staff, no rookie mini-camps combined with reduced opportunity to practice and meet...

I hate it, but I think our ceiling is mediocrity.

Talk me out of it.
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I don't think they'll win mnay games in 2020  
arniefez : 6/4/2020 10:53 am : link
if there is a 2020. But I hope they play like the Dolphins did at the end of 2019 by the end of 2020. I think the Giants are on the right path with this HC and QB. But that's just hope. We'll see.
Hopefully not this one...again...  
rnargi : 6/4/2020 12:20 pm : link
RE: Hopefully not this one...again...  
Big Blue '56 : 6/4/2020 12:57 pm : link
In comment 14915324 rnargi said:
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Fucking murderer!!!
1st month  
OC2.0 : 6/4/2020 1:42 pm : link
Is gonna be huge, imo. Yeah, you can say that about everybody, but in our case it is especially. A new staff with a huge roster turnover is gonna need every bit of that time to see what we have as far as cohesion goes.
It’d be great to be 2-2 going to Dallas so that game, if a loss, wouldn’t be critical.
I just want meaningful games come  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/4/2020 1:48 pm : link
Columbus Day weekend. My bar is THAT freaking low.
the division could be terrible  
Torrag : 6/4/2020 2:56 pm : link
Dallas and Philly are heading the wrong direction. I'll believe snyder can keep his hands off the team when I see it happen, so wash is doomed.

So we could win the division if we over achieve this year. Against the better teams though we'll be outclassed even if we make major strides as a team.
Not sure about the Eagles  
arniefez : 6/4/2020 3:02 pm : link
But why do you think the Cowboys are on the way down?
why do you think the Cowboys are on the way down?  
Torrag : 6/4/2020 3:06 pm : link
O-line and defense are both slowly degrading. They're in cap hell and they're QB has gone greedy on them.

I do think they've drafted well recently since the son took that over...unfortunately. Not enough to keep them on the top tier of playoff hopefuls imo.
I think the ceiling is 15-1 and a Super Bowl victory...  
Milton : 6/4/2020 3:14 pm : link
It's very hard to go undefeated in both the regular season and playoffs.
I am hoping for something like when Gibbs  
Chris in San Diego : 6/4/2020 3:21 pm : link
Took over the redskins. They lost like every game first half of the season...second half they were the best team in the league.
RE: I am hoping for something like when Gibbs  
Milton : 6/4/2020 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14915461 Chris in San Diego said:
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Took over the redskins. They lost like every game first half of the season...second half they were the best team in the league.
How about when Fassel took over the Giants in 1997? They started 1-3 and finished 10-5-1! I would take that, but much prefer 15-1.
Yeah!  
Chris in San Diego : 6/4/2020 9:22 pm : link
Something like that! Establish an identity...something that they do well consistantly!
The ceiling is the  
RELICDOA : 6/4/2020 9:34 pm : link
Roof
not much difference in ceiling or floor. Giants are a recovering team,  
plato : 6/5/2020 1:45 am : link
with no preparation time. they won’t be an NFL comparable team until 8 games into season. So if they win 2 games in first eight that’s a lot, and then maybe can win 4-5 out of last 8. that’s the best with good bounces, low injuries and reasonable calls. so let’s say 6 wins max 2 wins least.
ESPN has a clip on their website where the contributors  
The_Boss : 6/5/2020 12:04 pm : link
Including that Anita Marks take the under on the NYG win total of 6. Marks has the NYG at 1-7 at the midpoint.

That would certainly be depressing.
RE: the division could be terrible  
SGMen : 6/7/2020 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14915452 Torrag said:
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Dallas and Philly are heading the wrong direction. I'll believe snyder can keep his hands off the team when I see it happen, so wash is doomed.

So we could win the division if we over achieve this year. Against the better teams though we'll be outclassed even if we make major strides as a team.
Philly has the best shot to win this division because they are returning their coaching and systems in tact.

The Giants are at a big disadvantage along with the Boys and Redskins due to the coaching staff changes. That is a given.
The key to our season could be getting early, "lucky" wins. I mean, Pittsburgh could come out flat on Monday night and our special teams shine and we eek out a 24-23 win with a last second field goal. That kind of thing early would be nice.

I do believe if this team gets a full training camp in, well, then we need to stay healthy for hopes of a good season where we are at least competitive. I'll take 9-7 in a bad division. But we'd have to be lucky early and healthy throughout.
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