NFT: Mike Repole jumps into Mets bidding

We all know that none of these players will ever be as good as Ty Kelly, so stop complaining. There’s only one Ty Kelly

In comment 14923350 CMicks3110 said:

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We all know that none of these players will ever be as good as Ty Kelly, so stop complaining. There’s only one Ty Kelly

Kinda played out. I thought Ty Kelly deserved to make the team because he was versatile and had a history of hitting in the minors. What does this have to do with other teams adding a lot of talent via UDFA means and the Mets not? Should I ignore anything they do that is disappointing? Just checking so I know for the future.

Cubs signed 2 top 500 available players as UDFA (and one top 20 UDFA Senior), the Royals signed 5 top 500 players + 1 top 20 senior, Phillies signed 5 + 2 seniors, Padres signed 3.

that in a year when every player after 5 rounds is available to anyone, the Mets didn't do better.

This is where the deGrom's and McNeil's came from in current Mets terms.

But signing their top 3 picks is my main concern with the draft (1 down, so far, right?)

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Source: New York Mets players have officially reported back to Citi Field to continue their off-season training

The decision making and cash flow intricacies don't lend themselves to success in major sports franchises.

Better than the wilponzies?...sure, anyone would be, but I'm hoping for a Cohen type mega bucks owner that wants to fill a trophy case.

period came down to extras and sales pitch since the money was the same everywhere. The Royals apparently has a great story about how well they treat their entire organization, including fully paying all of the minor leagues during the pandemic (plus per diems, which is generous.) The Yankeees get plenty of juice for just being the Yankees but may have offered more tangible incentives.

The Mets were offering college tuition reimbursement but they have crappy ownership that is likely in-flux and were just blasted on Social Media by a former minor leauger, to which I don't think the team responded at all. Not great for recruiting purposes.

In comment 14923355 pjcas18 said:

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that in a year when every player after 5 rounds is available to anyone, the Mets didn't do better. This is where the deGrom's and McNeil's came from in current Mets terms. But signing their top 3 picks is my main concern with the draft (1 down, so far, right?)

Yeah they signed Greene. Hopefully they are willing to dip into the "extra" 400K or so to toss in for Ginn (if necessary).

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Picking up signals that we could be getting very close to the endgame here, and not just bc Manfred is on TV soon. Something appears to be percolating.

Because you don't know who elected to be on the "do not call" list of the players on the Top 500. There are still a number of players who I have not seen listed anywhere, but I am not sure if they elected to remain in school versus signing as a UDFA.

In comment 14923372 Mike in NY said:

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Because you don't know who elected to be on the "do not call" list of the players on the Top 500. There are still a number of players who I have not seen listed anywhere, but I am not sure if they elected to remain in school versus signing as a UDFA.

The point is more, the Mets didn't sign (at least to this point) any prominent UDFA's. Ones cited by FG's or BA as standouts. Nightengale is marginally interesting but overall a very mediocre group.

In comment 14923375 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14923372 Mike in NY said: Quote: Because you don't know who elected to be on the "do not call" list of the players on the Top 500. There are still a number of players who I have not seen listed anywhere, but I am not sure if they elected to remain in school versus signing as a UDFA. The point is more, the Mets didn't sign (at least to this point) any prominent UDFA's. Ones cited by FG's or BA as standouts. Nightengale is marginally interesting but overall a very mediocre group.

McIlwain is intriguing, but I agree that I would have liked to have seen more. I am not sure if any of these players are on the "do not call" list, but some of my names that I see are as follows:

Brett Auerbach, UTIL, Alabama - Has played C, 1B, 2B, 3B, and all 3 OF spots. Pretty young for his class year. Hit nearly .300 in Cape Cod League with a little pop and 12/14 on SB in 17 games this year. 17/8 BB/K ratio in an abbreviated season.

Jermaine Vanheyningen, RHP, Florence Darlington Tech - Control is non-existient, but has a high 90's fastball.

Mo Hanley, LHP, Adrian University - As a lower level player I don't think he will ever get a better offer, but I have read that his fastball tops out at 95 which is nice for a lefty and he knows how to strike batters out.

remain the favorites to sign Roderick Arias. Kid sounds like a beast.

it's impossible to tell with him, but Portnoy says he's been asked to be part of an investment group (presumably to buy the Mets).

In comment 14923388 pjcas18 said:

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it's impossible to tell with him, but Portnoy says he's been asked to be part of an investment group (presumably to buy the Mets).

Portnoy obviously has money but again this would presumably be a very small share (ala Bill Maher). Portnoy would also have to go through the vetting process and given some of his past antics I'm not sure it would even be worth it.

given the rising cases in AZ/FL if they had locked down a deal a month ago for July 4th start, they likely would have been in full swing in both states right now and needed to shut down their spring trainings. Perhaps their protocols would have been strong enough to not have a wider positive tests, or perhaps far more players would have tested positive. But more than likely they would have needed to delay things.

So yay greed and labor hostilities!!! Hopefully they will be able to use this extra time to adjust plans and build out protocols strong enough to get the full 60 games in. If it is truly 60 games in 66 days that will be a fun stretch.

claims A-Rod/Lopez would be the controlling owners which likely means Repole wouldn't be investing as much as we might think (assuming the post's story is accurate).

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I’m going to be a bench coach for the Mets. It’s going to be so awesome

this guy has a net worth of 2.4B (per Michael Mayer twitter)

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hopefully an agreement of some form gets announced in the next month or so. And hopefully that leaves enough time before the next offseason, although that will probably be a weird offseason any way. It'd be great to nab Realmuto or Betts on a 1 year deal if they want to wait for a normal offseason to cash in.

If they end up getting a posse of ownership, think of all the BS that will be involved if the GM needs to get a quick decision on going over the budget? They’ll need a single owner who can make a decision to spend.

I imagine there will be one principal owner.

Like the Marlins, Jeter is the face, but Bruce Sherman is the principal owner.

I wouldn't worry about having to get approval of every single owner for payroll decisions.

with Betts if there is a new owner, especially with all the players coming off the books after the season.

They can probably sign Betts and maybe even extend Syndergaard for cheaper coming off TJS and stay under the luxury tax.

Stroman, Porcello, Lowrie, and Wilson off the books clears around 38M - plus $6M for Cespedes = $44M off the payroll before arb. Of course they'll need to replace those guys. except Lowrie. Might go down as worst ever FA signing.

If the Mets end up with a group of owners putting up significant millions of dollars, one principal owner will need to consult with those owners. I don’t think these will be Bill Maher level owners. I want to see an owner like a Cuban or in this case Cohen.

By the way, if you think the Mets would go and get Betts, tell me what you’re drinking. I need to get some of that.

for Betts if he becomes a FA with a new ownership group?

lol fans already pissed at news owners and know they won't spend money before they even buy the team.

there is going to be a lot of hesitation out there. Pretty much the last offseason with this CBA, revenues will be way down thanks to Corona, and the details of all the negotiations are blurring but I believe they already agreed to cut the FA compensation. The players themselves are probably already considering just taking 1 year deals to re-enter the market in a more normal offseason or even year 1 of the new CBA.

If you are looking to be aggressive however I'd imagine it will be a buyer's market and either of those guys (Realmuto or Betts) would be a huge add.

The first move of any new ownership however has to be extending Alonso to the best early extension they can. He will likely be amenable since he's not due to hit FA until after his 30 or 31 season I think. Next move would be Syndergaard extension but good luck finding a fair number there.

and feel like he can be a big part of the nucleus of the future of the team, but no way my first priority is an Alonso extension when he's not even arb eligible until 2022.

I mean I'd extend him if it were team friendly, but all the risk is with the Mets on a young power hitter who isn't great defensively. With an NL DH I'd be more comfortable with it. But definitely not my 1st priority. He can easily become Chris Davis just as likely as Mark McGwire.

1st priority is Syndergaard, the pitching is barren after deGrom. And then I'd prioritize Betts and/or Realmuto over Alonso too. Strength up the middle - Betts is so good defensively and offensively and Realmuto is the best two-way catcher since I-Rod.

Dream 2020-2021 off-season. Extend Syndergaard team friendly due to TJS, sign Betts, Realmuto and Stroman.

I'm not convinced Betts and Realmuto will even hit free agency though.

Albies = 7/35m - signed in April of year 2.5 at age 23
Acuna = 8/100m - signed in April of year 2 after ROY season at age 21 (service time year 1 again because the Braves didn't call him up right away)

This is an older comp but Rizzo extended at age 23 for 7 years/$41m (2013).

Alonso is already 25 years old and he's under control for 4 years after this one. Perhaps that's enough but thanks to BVW's call up last year, he's only got 1 more cheap year left then he's arb eligible for the last 3 (so those years will likely cost a combined $30m-40m). I know it's a shitty thing to do to the player but this is why it was so stupid to not just give Dom Smith or JDD those 10 games last year because then this would be a non-issue. But they did it, so may as well go all the way with the good will if he cements himself as the face of the team this year and guarantee the arb years in return for 1 or 2 extra years below open market value (6x60m?).

an Alonso extension, I'd love one, I just don't view it as the biggest priority this next off season.

with his profile tend not to age well. We have him under team control for another 5 years. I'd rather get Thor locked up, add Realmuto and then add another arm to our rotation (let Stroman walk or qualify him and bring him back for one year).

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an Alonso extension, I'd love one, I just don't view it as the biggest priority this next off season.

That's fair - it's certainly more urgent to lockdown Syndergaard, I just don't know if it will make sense at whatever $ he wants. He will be in his walk year off TJS. He may just want to gamble on a good year. I don't think I'd give him the Wheeler contract this offseason before seeing him come back but if he'd take lower than that, maybe?

is already Toronto's #2 prospect and carrying a 50 grade on FG. Giving him up was a lot closer than people realize to as bad as giving up Kelenic.

David and Simon Reuben, who amassed a fortune investing in real estate, technology companies and leisure, are exploring a bid for the New York Mets, people familiar with the matter told Sportico.

The brothers, who were born in India and moved to London as teenagers, have a combined net worth of about $14 billion — built on one of the largest portfolios of retail, office and residential properties.

The brothers are likely drawn to the team because of the real estate development possibilities around Citi Field, said one of the people, who was granted anonymity because the matter is private.

a tweet yesterday, I forget who (might have even been on here), said that SNY is still not included in the proposed transaction (as of now).

My question is can't the new ownership group just not renew the contract with SNY Once it ends and I realize SNY has some college stuff, but without the Mets I feel like SNY would be pretty useless.

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a tweet yesterday, I forget who (might have even been on here), said that SNY is still not included in the proposed transaction (as of now). My question is can't the new ownership group just not renew the contract with SNY Once it ends and I realize SNY has some college stuff, but without the Mets I feel like SNY would be pretty useless.

A new owner would have to wait 10 years to reap any TV revenue. Depending on what the source is the Wilpons net roughly 90 million per year from SNY (65% owners). So you're looking at more than 1 billion in value to a new owner that isn't there.

I would want to include SNY in any deal, but I'm just saying, eventually if the Wilpons play hardball and don't include it, eventually SNY could be useless.

So, they would be smart IMO to include it, or at least a percentage of it.

In comment 14923802 DanMetroMan said:

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David and Simon Reuben, who amassed a fortune investing in real estate, technology companies and leisure, are exploring a bid for the New York Mets, people familiar with the matter told Sportico. The brothers, who were born in India and moved to London as teenagers, have a combined net worth of about $14 billion — built on one of the largest portfolios of retail, office and residential properties. The brothers are likely drawn to the team because of the real estate development possibilities around Citi Field, said one of the people, who was granted anonymity because the matter is private.

That my friend is a bingo!!!
And the reason the Wilpons are ok with Jeffy staying “involved” with the team... franchise was a means to an end, and that is a MUCH bigger picture...

have been proposals and ideas for development dating back to 2011. They are nowhere near anything resembling a resolution or plan in which the Wilpons would gain profit.

ya know...the new arena and development at Belmont? That little project that they still have not paid up in full on.

I just pray for the day that Sterling Equities and all of the Katz/Wilpon family members who work at that joke of a corporation having nothing to do with the Mets, Citi Field or SNY.

by news like this because who knows what the next ownership will bring, but at the same time I can't wait.

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but as long as the Wilpons are out of control I really don't care. Will be the best day since advancing past the Cubs, and probably even better.

Famous last words but I think we will know fairly quickly who the next owners are and they will be on board before the next offseason. The Wilpons do not want to keep writing checks and they are down to their final strike in this sale process (the first was Cohen and now the pandemic obviously impacting the entire world economy). If they do in fact get 3-5 bids in the next month I think they will take one from a secure buyer that will allow for a smooth and expedient sale.

which is potentially more than Matt Allen got last year. Also more than he was offered by the LAD in the first rd a few years ago. Seems likely they will get it done but I believe it's Boras so you never know.

Jwffy is going to end up costing the family nearly a billion dollars. amazing. I think Ginn signs but as noted #Boras.

obviously a risk, but to get paid more he'd need to be redrafted in the 1st round at around pick 25/26 and get slot (or get drafted there or later and get over slot) but coming off TJS and not having pitched in a game maybe before the next draft it would be a gamble.

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obviously a risk, but to get paid more he'd need to be redrafted in the 1st round at around pick 25/26 and get slot (or get drafted there or later and get over slot) but coming off TJS and not having pitched in a game maybe before the next draft it would be a gamble.

I think 75% chance he signs and the remaining 25%.. I'd say 20% is Boras and 5% is a kid wanting to stay in school.

I assume they lose the extra money they saved?

I will caution one thing, the lower the sale price, the more likely Jeffy and Co are still,pulling strings in one way or another. So as a fan, hope for the higher selling price.

In comment 14925056 Shecky said:

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I will caution one thing, the lower the sale price, the more likely Jeffy and Co are still,pulling strings in one way or another. So as a fan, hope for the higher selling price.

You gotta imagine that Katz and the non-Jeff Wilpons are pissed enough about missing out on the $2.6B that there isn't any funny business this time around.