Just got home from work as a telecast was beginning. I really poignant moment with all the other drivers and all the other team members walking the length of pit road as Bubba drove his car to the edge.
Incredible happenings there yesterday. Just amazing.
Taking a step to the side of everything else that’s happening in the country this moment, you’re not a real sports fan if you’re not rooting for Wallace to win his first NASCAR race this afternoon.
For the record: Rain postponement yesterday, thus the Monday race. Bubba’s best career finish is 2nd. He’s racing in his home state today. It’s all set up for a great, great story.
One more note. His crew chief on the head set to Bubba on the final parade lap before green: “Let’s shut some of these haters up.”
Well done.
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I find it a little bit hard to believe there is no video in the garage stalls to catch the person who did it, but either way, hopefully the person is caught.
I find it a little bit hard to believe there is no video in the garage stalls to catch the person who did it, but either way, hopefully the person is caught.
Apparently it had to be someone from the infield also, which limits it to a relatively small group. Crazy they can't figure it out.
There are cameras all over the garage areas...I am sure they can find out who did this.
I'll wait until we get confirmation about this incident. It's an absolutely despicable situation if what they said happened did happen. I'm guessing it was a local Track Worker who felt some type of way about the Confederate Flag and the "Black Lives Matter" paint scheme on Bubba's car a few weeks ago. But again, I'll wait for the details and the likely video of a likely suspect.
It's a superspeedway, which means it's anybody's race. Bubba could easily win this thing if he gets the right push, and I feel like he's more likely than others to get a well-timed push today like Dale Jr. did back in the day. I'm rooting for him hard today.
I 100% believe that today's pre race display was 100% genuine. I believe that a majority of the drivers are good people that believe in inclusion and diversity. I want to believe that the majority people who work in the garages, own cars and work for NASCAR believe in inclusion and diversity too but my personal experience tells me otherwise. How many races and different NASCAR tracks have you been to? The tracks in the south and the garage areas are an eye opening experience for anyone raised in a metro area. Several years ago I passed on a chance to go to Talladega and I do not regret it.
It would take anyone about 5 minutes to google information about several owners and drivers that show you who they are. Not their words their actions.
I feel badly for Bubba Wallace this is a very very heavy burden to carry by himself and he's a guy that struggles with mental health issues. I wish him a long safe, successful, profitable career. He's one of the good guys in sports.
It's a superspeedway, which means it's anybody's race. Bubba could easily win this thing if he gets the right push, and I feel like he's more likely than others to get a well-timed push today like Dale Jr. did back in the day. I'm rooting for him hard today.
It is not just about being pushed, you have to know which lane to go to, you have to know how to use the air to your advantage...there are ways to get close to someones door and slow them down..
Dale JR was one of the best ever to do it, it wasnt just being pushed
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It's a superspeedway, which means it's anybody's race. Bubba could easily win this thing if he gets the right push, and I feel like he's more likely than others to get a well-timed push today like Dale Jr. did back in the day. I'm rooting for him hard today.
It is not just about being pushed, you have to know which lane to go to, you have to know how to use the air to your advantage...there are ways to get close to someones door and slow them down..
Dale JR was one of the best ever to do it, it wasnt just being pushed
Yea for sure, Jr. and Sr. are two of the best to ever do it when it comes to the draft. The DEI and RCR cars also seemed to be great at these races back in the day which is why Michael Waltrip got some big wins too.
But I was just saying you need help and luck in a superspeedway race, you can't just singlehandedly destroy the field with a ridiculous car. Bubba will need to choose the right lane at the right time like you said, but it's more likely he can get a win in a race like this vs. your typical 1.50 mile oval.
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It's a superspeedway, which means it's anybody's race. Bubba could easily win this thing if he gets the right push, and I feel like he's more likely than others to get a well-timed push today like Dale Jr. did back in the day. I'm rooting for him hard today.
It is not just about being pushed, you have to know which lane to go to, you have to know how to use the air to your advantage...there are ways to get close to someones door and slow them down..
Dale JR was one of the best ever to do it, it wasnt just being pushed
Yea for sure, Jr. and Sr. are two of the best to ever do it when it comes to the draft. The DEI and RCR cars also seemed to be great at these races back in the day which is why Michael Waltrip got some big wins too.
But I was just saying you need help and luck in a superspeedway race, you can't just singlehandedly destroy the field with a ridiculous car. Bubba will need to choose the right lane at the right time like you said, but it's more likely he can get a win in a race like this vs. your typical 1.50 mile oval.
there is only 1 time i saw a car dominate a field and that was jr at the july daytona race in 2002 i think..
He waa driving away from thr pack by himself and had to go half throttle for much of the race
Gotta believe an investigation will turn up something about his garage situation.
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I don't know much or give much of a damn about the sport, but I hope Bubba wins today and jams it right up that coward's ass, along with any other participants/fans of the sport who might share that type of hatred.
There are cameras all over the garage areas...I am sure they can find out who did this.
I think the press is also allowed in there..
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I don't know much or give much of a damn about the sport, but I hope Bubba wins today and jams it right up that coward's ass, along with any other participants/fans of the sport who might share that type of hatred.
There are cameras all over the garage areas...I am sure they can find out who did this.
I think the press is also allowed in there..
The press ? Nah ... never happen.
there will be 30k in bristol in a few weeks..
texas is selling tickets no word on limit
I wasn't expecting this round of BLM protests to really have much of an impact. We saw similar outrage multiple times over the last decade, large protests that faded away when the next shiny object appeared for the media.
So it's a revelation, not only to me but to many of us to see this round of protests stick - not only in duration, but enacting real change, and now?...
Now we're seeing the old symbols of this country's racism overturned, multiple statues overturned, the movement spreading past racism against African Americans and into other symbols of our racist, imperialist history.
But NASCAR at TALLEDEGA, of all places?!?!
For me, a jaw-dropper.
NASCAR is a fading, boring sport, but rebel flags flew at all those races in recent years, that couched racism tolerated as much as fighting in hockey.
Impressed, and we're all better for that statement.
I've read some people are denying this explanation (or refusing to accept it). If you look at the pictures I see no reason to doubt the explanation. Those garage door openers do look a little like noose's if you're looking at them that way.
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I've read some people are denying this explanation (or refusing to accept it). If you look at the pictures I see no reason to doubt the explanation. Those garage door openers do look a little like noose's if you're looking at them that way.
I agree with you...people are going to see what they want to see or expect to see. However, there are also a lot of people saying that Wallace orchestrated this to get more support. Most likely explanation is that his crew was being very sensitive to any responses to Wallace's stance regarding the Confederate flag, and when they were assigned the garage last week, they saw what they thought (and expected to see) and reported it.
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I've read some people are denying this explanation (or refusing to accept it). If you look at the pictures I see no reason to doubt the explanation. Those garage door openers do look a little like noose's if you're looking at them that way.
I agree with you...people are going to see what they want to see or expect to see. However, there are also a lot of people saying that Wallace orchestrated this to get more support. Most likely explanation is that his crew was being very sensitive to any responses to Wallace's stance regarding the Confederate flag, and when they were assigned the garage last week, they saw what they thought (and expected to see) and reported it.
I have a hard time believing this to be honest. They needed an FBI investigation to figure out that it was the door rope? Nobody from the crew figured that out considering they are in these garages constantly? And NASCAR does zero due diligence before it goes to the FBI..
I don't think he orchestrated anything, but based on his appearance on The View this morning and how he belittled anybody that dare question anything about this incident, he certainly didn't have any problem turning himself into a victim for something that's so easily explained
Probably not.
Probably not.
You mean jemele hill who brings race into everything? no she is now saying that they used a noose on purpose because it is a racist sport
However....NASCAR ran with this story despite the fact that it shouldn't have taken more than 5 minutes to figure out what actually was going on. Got them a bunch of laudatory press out of it. Pretty lame IMO.
I don't blame NASCAR for taking the time to make sure nothing happened. People are so hair-triggered recently that it could have gone sideways quick. Even though you can say it went sideways anyways, it worked out in the end and a memorable moment came from it.
However....NASCAR ran with this story despite the fact that it shouldn't have taken more than 5 minutes to figure out what actually was going on. Got them a bunch of laudatory press out of it. Pretty lame IMO.
I don't think Wallace did anything wrong, and I feel bad for the publicity he will get because of it, but it definitely seems like an opportunistic event by NASCAR, though I don't even blame them that much.
But once again, a horrible job by the majority of the media. If only there was a group, whose job it is to verify, investigate, and factually report on situations. Hmmm. what would we call such a group? Did no one in the media even ask to see a picture of the "noose"? or look at the other garages to see they others had the same thing, but hanging from a garage door? Their articles were written and Wallace booked on their talk shows before the 15 FBI agents even got to Talladegha.
statement from Petty Sports
However....NASCAR ran with this story despite the fact that it shouldn't have taken more than 5 minutes to figure out what actually was going on. Got them a bunch of laudatory press out of it. Pretty lame IMO.
I dknt think it is a jussie smollett sotuation but he is milking it..
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On CNN, Bubba Wallace said he's never. see a garage pull like what he saw. Wallace: "From the evidence that we have and I have, it's a straight-up noose. ... It was a noose that was whether tied in 2019 or whenever, it was a noose. It wasn't directed at me, but somebody tied it."
First law of holes - stop digging. Just say that you're glad it turned out to be nothing and move on.
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He was only told about it by someone from his crew and NASCAR. This isn't another Jussie Smollett, despite what some people are trying to make it out to be.
However....NASCAR ran with this story despite the fact that it shouldn't have taken more than 5 minutes to figure out what actually was going on. Got them a bunch of laudatory press out of it. Pretty lame IMO.
I don't think Wallace did anything wrong, and I feel bad for the publicity he will get because of it, but it definitely seems like an opportunistic event by NASCAR, though I don't even blame them that much.
But once again, a horrible job by the majority of the media. If only there was a group, whose job it is to verify, investigate, and factually report on situations. Hmmm. what would we call such a group? Did no one in the media even ask to see a picture of the "noose"? or look at the other garages to see they others had the same thing, but hanging from a garage door? Their articles were written and Wallace booked on their talk shows before the 15 FBI agents even got to Talladegha.
statement from Petty Sports
He is definitely soaking up the attention. His interview with lemon on cnn was just weird.
I don't blame NASCAR for taking the time to make sure nothing happened. People are so hair-triggered recently that it could have gone sideways quick. Even though you can say it went sideways anyways, it worked out in the end and a memorable moment came from it.
Just as a side note: if one of the crew members really did say “look what they put in Bubba’s stall” jokingly, that’s kind of a weird joke to make IMO, right? Like, imagine that: if the crew member saw it and figured it wasn’t actually a noose nor hate crime -related as his first impression, isn’t it kind of a weird thing to joke about and be like “haha— Look at that thing, kinda looks like a noose right? Maybe they wanna lynch Bubba. Heh just joking.” Like, what? Does that not sound like a weird thing to “joke” about?
I don't blame NASCAR for taking the time to make sure nothing happened. People are so hair-triggered recently that it could have gone sideways quick. Even though you can say it went sideways anyways, it worked out in the end and a memorable moment came from it.
Wallace was on tv tonight saying it is a noose, no matter what and that even if it wasnt meant for him, its still a noose.
He is loving this. I saw his instagram story was all about new fans and selling tons of merch. So this fake racism story is making him some $$
They are saying the noose was already there. It was a pull rope fashioned like a noose. It wasn’t just a garage pull they called a noose it was a garage pull tied into a noose.
They aren’t saying there was not a noose, just that the noose was there previously so there was no malicious intent towards the driver.
What's the saying... "In for a penny, in for a pound"?
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understand why Wallace is continuing to run with this.
What's the saying... "In for a penny, in for a pound"?
It just seems foolish. My Brother-in-law works for one of the Hendrick teams and he said that once everyone returned to the garages that they knew it was just the garage pull and that several of the garages had the same knot. NASCAR knew and just wanted to make sure there wasn't any doubt before releasing a statement. And that Wallace's crew joking because it was clear there wasn't any ill intent.
Wallace continuing to talk about this doesn't make sense. I realize that I'm getting third-hand info, but this hasn't made sense from the beginning.
Its already been confirmed that other tracks use it..
and if you look at the picture it is a simple not, it is not tied loke a noose..
America is changing for the better.
If you were to look at the garage pulls, they run the gamut. Some have a straight rope with a small knot just to give leverage to pull. A couple actually had plastic handles affixed to the end. Several look like the one in Wallace's garage. It is a knot tied to be able to get a hand through an opening to grab and pull. I'm not sure how else a rope is supposed to be tied to allow for a handhold without loosely resembling a noose. But it is very likely coincidental.
and the dragging that NASCAR, Talladegha, and the fans took was unwarranted (in this case). Yet there is no accountability. No mea culpa, no massive corrections and the media stories will move on to the next hot topic. If fact, i've eve seen some stories that are so indignant that reek of "well if they didn't do it this time, they probably did it some other time"
George Carlin has some great bits about this. You think what they tell you to think.
America is changing for the better.
That’s one way of looking at this, I guess.
Also lets not act like poor nascar and its fans took a bath in all this. Was the confederate flag that flew over talladega really just the dukes of hazard logo?
Nascar did the right thing here and should be applauded for the investigation even if they knew it was nothing. Bubba did not seem to handle this well.
Also lets not act like poor nascar and its fans took a bath in all this. Was the confederate flag that flew over talladega really just the dukes of hazard logo?
Nascar did the right thing here and should be applauded for the investigation even if they knew it was nothing. Bubba did not seem to handle this well.
Like I said, if they're not guilty of this, they're guilty of something. That line of thinking used to be used quite often.
And I'm not defending Nascar, I'm not even a fan.
And i love the media, all the headlines were no charges will be filed, instead of it wasnt a noose, just a garage pull...
Nice show of support by other drivers.
Even if it was a noose, it would have probably been the work of one, maybe two lone idiots. Never was that big of a deal.
Again that isnt why Wallace did though, thats where the issue is. He seemed to just act like this had never been done before. NOt that its something that is sometimes done and he would rather it not be.
Again that isnt why Wallace did though, thats where the issue is. He seemed to just act like this had never been done before. NOt that its something that is sometimes done and he would rather it not be.
he didnt find it, he never even saw it
i have one right now hanging on my detail shop garage door..
she is racist and the worst kind because she thinks there is nkthing wrong with what she is doing and thinks she is doing good.
One thing to remember about Wallace he is a fricken cry baby and a horrible driver..
During quarantine they did iracing, he crashed out and started flipping out and turned the game off...he was then banned..
nobody did, this is the most attention he has gotten ever...
And look i am not discrediting all he has done with BLM, but this current situation he feels like he is milking it
It looks like a tiny noose, if you're being honest, but they're on every garage door and this picture is from 2019 and I am not an expert, but if the way the open and close garage stall doors at race tracks is with ropes tied in a similar manner to a noose then people will make it whatever they want. But it's clear the intent was not what people said and the incident wasn't either.
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if it offends someone then just dont use it.
So if something looks bad, it shouldn't be used? It is a pull for a garage door. And it only looks like a noose when put into that context. And Wallace drew that garage by chance. As do all drivers. Being there a year ago and being in other garages makes it just what it is - a garage pull.
I can probably find anything that offends somebody in some way. Where is the line drawn on what can be used and can't?
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Italianju : 8:32 am : link : reply
if it offends someone then just dont use it.
So if something looks bad, it shouldn't be used? It is a pull for a garage door. And it only looks like a noose when put into that context. And Wallace drew that garage by chance. As do all drivers. Being there a year ago and being in other garages makes it just what it is - a garage pull.
I can probably find anything that offends somebody in some way. Where is the line drawn on what can be used and can't?
Exactly. Where do we stop? Do we ban rope? Dog leashes? All knots are illegal? All Velcro shoes? Damn, people really are getting offended by inanimate objects a lot lately
The line of thinking i hate is that "im going to keep doing something despite it offending someone cause i want to, not need to, want to"
What do you mean it shouldn't be used anyway? "Hey Gordo, get rid of that rope!!"
What is somebody keeping on doing? Opening and closing a garage door.
How is that offensive?
The line of thinking i hate is that "im going to keep doing something despite it offending someone cause i want to, not need to, want to"
Look at the picture pjcas18 posting. It is a rope with a loop. The loop is small, and is around waist level. It is more believable that some dude squeezes it around his junk for some perverted fetish than it is a noose. A noose has a much bigger loop, and is hung a hell of a lot higher than waist level. You do realize a noose doesn't work at waist-level, right?
The line of thinking i hate is that "im going to keep doing something despite it offending someone cause i want to, not need to, want to"
kf he saw it it would be different, but he never saw it, so how can he be offended if he never saw it?
The line of thinking i hate is that "im going to keep doing something despite it offending someone cause i want to, not need to, want to"
Every garage does use it at Talladega. And there were pictures from Richmond using the same exact pull string.
Lost all the sympathy I had for this dude after the View interview yesterday and the Don Lemon interview last night. Both did nothing but show Bubba's true intentions
The guy went from being angry that he was a victim of a hate crime to being more angry that he wasn't the victim of a hate crime. Victim mentality.
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person is offended cause something looks like a noose then you shouldnt use it. Now if he was offended that all of the walls are painted white thats a different story. Im not saying that every little thing that offends someone should be removed, but i think there are levels. And as stated not every garage has it, which means its not a big deal to not use it.
The line of thinking i hate is that "im going to keep doing something despite it offending someone cause i want to, not need to, want to"
Look at the picture pjcas18 posting. It is a rope with a loop. The loop is small, and is around waist level. It is more believable that some dude squeezes it around his junk for some perverted fetish than it is a noose. A noose has a much bigger loop, and is hung a hell of a lot higher than waist level. You do realize a noose doesn't work at waist-level, right?
It's height in that picture is irrelevant. You realize if the garage door was closed, then it would be higher...