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nyjuggernaut2 : 6/24/2020 1:48 pm
Anyone know what the rule is for someone traveling down to NC for five days and then returning to Jersey. My wife, kids, and I were planning on visiting family down there next week for a few days, would we have to quarantine when we return with this new rule? Or is it only for people who reside in NC that are coming here?

I’ve been looking it up online the past hour and can’t seem to find any answers.
You will most likely have to fill a waiver when you cross the border  
nygiants16 : 6/24/2020 2:05 pm : link
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this article  
KDavies : 6/24/2020 2:08 pm : link
says 14 day quarantine from people traveling from the state. NC is listed as one of the states
Link - ( New Window )
If anything like Texas or Florida  
regulator : 6/24/2020 2:21 pm : link
it was not actually enforced, but strongly recommended, and the characterization of it as a "mandatory quarantine" was more to induce voluntary compliance than to actually threaten a quarantine using force of law.
Following  
Danny Kanell : 6/24/2020 3:06 pm : link
I have a trip planned to Myrtle Beach 7/25-8/1. Hopefully this thread gives some answers. We are driving, not flying.
More BS  
Sec 103 : 6/24/2020 3:08 pm : link
from gov...
RE: Following  
Britt in VA : 6/24/2020 3:13 pm : link
In comment 14924482 Danny Kanell said:
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I have a trip planned to Myrtle Beach 7/25-8/1. Hopefully this thread gives some answers. We are driving, not flying.


United Airlines just suspended travel to Myrtle Beach effective today. Virginia also said they are urging a 14 day quarantine if you travel to VA from Myrtle Beach because they have so many positive cases that are tracing back to Myrtle Beach.
RE: Following  
ron mexico : 6/24/2020 3:13 pm : link
In comment 14924482 Danny Kanell said:
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I have a trip planned to Myrtle Beach 7/25-8/1. Hopefully this thread gives some answers. We are driving, not flying.


Same, supposed to go to the Outer Banks in August. Worried we will will have to quarantine when we get back which overlaps with the start of school.

I guess you could look at it two ways, if things improve the quarantine will be lifted. If things get worse, we’re not going back to school physically anyway so it doesn’t really matter.
This is likely to be the next set of policies put into  
kicker : 6/24/2020 3:20 pm : link
place if there are regional flare ups, given the relative success Hawaii has had.
With how available testing is getting,  
JB_in_DC : 6/24/2020 3:33 pm : link
can't this quarantine be shortened by testing negative after returning from a trip? (Obviously this is unenforceable, but if you're trying to play as straight as possible).
Florida  
XBRONX : 6/24/2020 3:33 pm : link
cases thru the roof today. Nothing to see here
Try not to spread Covid to folks in NC  
ZogZerg : 6/24/2020 3:39 pm : link
What a bunch BS from NY/NJ/Con!
In the last week NY has had more new cases of COVID than NC.

Use some common sense when you travel and you should be fine.
Don't follow the lead of the European Tennis group...
RE: With how available testing is getting,  
PaulBlakeTSU : 6/24/2020 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14924499 JB_in_DC said:
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can't this quarantine be shortened by testing negative after returning from a trip? (Obviously this is unenforceable, but if you're trying to play as straight as possible).


The problem is that it takes time for a person who is exposed to Covid to replicate enough of the virus to show up on a test or show symptoms. From Harvard

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If you get the nasal/throat swab or saliva test, you will get a false negative test result:

100% of the time on the day you are exposed to the virus. (There are so few viral particles in your nose or saliva so soon after infection that the test cannot detect them.)
About 40% of the time if you are tested four days after exposure to the virus.
About 20% of the time if you develop symptoms and are tested three days after those symptoms started.

and

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How soon after I'm infected with the new coronavirus will I start to be contagious?
The time from exposure to symptom onset (known as the incubation period) is thought to be three to 14 days, though symptoms typically appear within four or five days after exposure.

We know that a person with COVID-19 may be contagious 48 to 72 hours before starting to experience symptoms. Emerging research suggests that people may actually be most likely to spread the virus to others during the 48 hours before they start to experience symptoms.

If true, this strengthens the case for face masks, physical distancing, and contact tracing, all of which can help reduce the risk that someone who is infected but not yet contagious may unknowingly infect others.


So, even if you leave a high-level area, getting tested right away won't necessarily be all that indicative. If you got infected on the last day of your stay, you'll still get a false negative 40% of the time 4 days later!

So you should still wait just to even get tested.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/if-youve-been-exposed-to-the-coronavirus - ( New Window )
Of course you will see more  
kes722 : 6/24/2020 3:43 pm : link
Cases. Everyone was locked inside for the past 3 months.

We would have been better off not quarantining at all.
RE: Try not to spread Covid to folks in NC  
giants#1 : 6/24/2020 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14924502 ZogZerg said:
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What a bunch BS from NY/NJ/Con!
In the last week NY has had more new cases of COVID than NC.

Use some common sense when you travel and you should be fine.
Don't follow the lead of the European Tennis group...


Not sure if serious, but even without accounting for population (NY > 2xNC) that's not true. NC has averaged close to twice as many positive cases over the last week.
This seems impossible to enforce  
Metnut : 6/24/2020 3:47 pm : link
Especially to anyone with NY or NJ played who drive.
RE: RE: Try not to spread Covid to folks in NC  
ZogZerg : 6/24/2020 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14924506 giants#1 said:
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In comment 14924502 ZogZerg said:


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What a bunch BS from NY/NJ/Con!
In the last week NY has had more new cases of COVID than NC.

Use some common sense when you travel and you should be fine.
Don't follow the lead of the European Tennis group...



Not sure if serious, but even without accounting for population (NY > 2xNC) that's not true. NC has averaged close to twice as many positive cases over the last week.


Not according to the CDC website.
You can argue with them. Your numbers are complete BS.
How will this work?  
Pork Chop : 6/24/2020 3:50 pm : link
My wife and I are dropping our son at West Point for CBT on July 14, and we are coming from Seattle. Will we be able to drive up there and stay in the hotel/car while we are there?
RE: This is likely to be the next set of policies put into  
SimpleMan : 6/24/2020 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14924494 kicker said:
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place if there are regional flare ups, given the relative success Hawaii has had.


I live in Hawaii. A lot of the success with catching violators is from residents turning people in. A lot of people are also dumb enough to violate and post on social media so they get caught. Our visitor numbers have climbed up to about 400-500 per day, and there are definitely people violating and not getting caught. It is not a perfect system but that plus our geography have kept the numbers low.
RE: RE: RE: Try not to spread Covid to folks in NC  
giants#1 : 6/24/2020 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14924510 ZogZerg said:
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In comment 14924506 giants#1 said:


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In comment 14924502 ZogZerg said:


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What a bunch BS from NY/NJ/Con!
In the last week NY has had more new cases of COVID than NC.

Use some common sense when you travel and you should be fine.
Don't follow the lead of the European Tennis group...



Not sure if serious, but even without accounting for population (NY > 2xNC) that's not true. NC has averaged close to twice as many positive cases over the last week.



Not according to the CDC website.
You can argue with them. Your numbers are complete BS.


Huh?

New York went from 173,984 cases on 6/16 to 176,020 yesterday. That's just over 2000 cases in the last week.

North Carolina went from 45,853 cases on 6/16 to 54,450 yesterday. That's ~8600 cases in the last week, or >4x the # of cases in NY.
CDC COVID tracker - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: RE: Try not to spread Covid to folks in NC  
leatherneck570 : 6/24/2020 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14924515 giants#1 said:
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In comment 14924510 ZogZerg said:


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In comment 14924506 giants#1 said:


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In comment 14924502 ZogZerg said:


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What a bunch BS from NY/NJ/Con!
In the last week NY has had more new cases of COVID than NC.

Use some common sense when you travel and you should be fine.
Don't follow the lead of the European Tennis group...



Not sure if serious, but even without accounting for population (NY > 2xNC) that's not true. NC has averaged close to twice as many positive cases over the last week.



Not according to the CDC website.
You can argue with them. Your numbers are complete BS.



Huh?

New York went from 173,984 cases on 6/16 to 176,020 yesterday. That's just over 2000 cases in the last week.

North Carolina went from 45,853 cases on 6/16 to 54,450 yesterday. That's ~8600 cases in the last week, or >4x the # of cases in NY. CDC COVID tracker - ( New Window )


I guarantee he's looking at the wrong chart...the one that explicitly states its not up to date. Just a hunch though...
I'm looking at this one  
ZogZerg : 6/24/2020 4:03 pm : link
NC = 9,351
NY = 7,816+ 2,344 = 10,160

Maybe I'm misreading something?
US COVID-19 Cases Reported to the CDC in the Last 7 Days, by State/Territory - ( New Window )
RE: I'm looking at this one  
ZogZerg : 6/24/2020 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14924517 ZogZerg said:
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NC = 9,351
NY = 7,816+ 2,344 = 10,160

Maybe I'm misreading something? US COVID-19 Cases Reported to the CDC in the Last 7 Days, by State/Territory - ( New Window )


Per the page:
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CDC | Updated: Jun 24 2020 12:45PM
here's the math  
PaulBlakeTSU : 6/24/2020 4:06 pm : link


Numbers taken from https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/new-york
which uses numbers from The Covid Tracking Project.

Looking at the CDC daily reports, New Jersey and NC match numbers exactly.

New York at CDC is broken up of NYC and NY. Add them together and they are very close to the numbers from Hopkins (not sure the discrepancy)

Either way, the suggestion that New York had more cases than NC over the last week is patently false. North Carolina had nearly double the cases with nearly half the population.
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