Outside of us, I'm curious to see how New England's season goes with no TB. From all I've read/heard from cousins who are Pats fans, BB is high on Stidham. I saw him a bunch when he was at Auburn, but nothing stood out & there's a reason why he lasted until the 4th round. Then again, Montana was picked in the 3rd round & TB didn't go to 199 in the '00 Draft so who knows? It's a crapshoot.
Most people are putting Buffalo as the AFC East favorite, but I'm still taking the Pats. BB is the GOAT & I just think they're the favorites until proven otherwise. They lost some key guys like Van Noy & Collins, but I just think BB will find a way since he always seems to find one. I'm not expecting them to go 14-2 or anything, but I can definitely see a 10-6, 11-5 season. The Cassel led Pats went 11-5 in '08 after TB tore his ACL.
I may be in the minority, but I don't really hate the Patriots. I was never a TB fan, but I respect & appreciate BB for what he did here with us & his obvious coaching genius. Also, we beat them twice when it counted the most so...:-) Now, I'm not someone like pjcas18 who lives in New England & has to deal with their mostly pink hat fans on a daily basis, but I enjoy visiting New England & rocking my Giants gear & seeing people burn a hole through me with their eyes. Haha.
And Belichick was forced to play without Brady in 2009 and missed the playoffs and was 5 games worse in the regular season than the year before.
And 2016 Brady was suspended the 4 games, and yes they went 3 - 1. And I agree you are what your record says you are, but it was not a strong 3 - 1.
The 3 - 1 was MIA, BUF, HOU and ARI.
both times without Brady as serendipitous as it might seem the Patriots had historically easy schedules.
People do not give Brady enough credit for the missed '08 season. That offense went from GOAT caliber to "pretty good" with his loss. The '08 Pats also had a ridiculously easy schedule.
Brady will definitely be missed.
I bet BB could also make Blake Bortles look like an NFL QB.
But I think he’ll stick with the guy that knows the system.
That would be the opposite of Belicikian
I think they are 10-6(because Belichick is Belichick) and a wild card team. Buffalo wins the division.
BTW, Brady is still an upgrade over Winston. Tampa will probably go 10-6(they have very good WRs that Brady needs) and make the playoffs.
As Eric said, "Don't count out Belicheck ever". The guy is always a step ahead.
If they are able to run the ball I think they will be pretty good. You know the defense is going to be at least pretty good. So if the OL rebounds I think they will be gunning for the division.
I think they'll be good. Stidham will need to make plays to keep drives alive and make room for the backs though. It'll be interesting to see if he can.
Still the best Coach ever and that division is nothing special. They will probably make the playoffs.
I'm picking the Pats to win the division at 10-6.
2008 Pats: 25.6 PPG (-11.2 PPG)
2010 Colts: 27.2 PPG
2011 Colts: 15.2 PPG (-12.0 PPG)
The 2007 Pats were the best team in Brady's run and the 2010 Colts were the worst team in Peyton's run. Brady's team went from historically dominant to good, Peyton's team went from good to terrible. Yet people make it seem like losing Brady had no effect on the Pats while losing Peyton made the Colts fall apart.
Belichick is amazing, but some of you give him way too much credit and Brady not enough. Belichick has been able to be more creative and invest more on defense because of Brady's greatness carrying mediocre offensive talent for most of his career. The relationship between the two was reciprocal, yet very few seem to want to give Brady any credit for Belichick's success.
2019 Brady isn't the same as 2007 Brady, but he's still better than his basic numbers would suggest. The Pats offense is going to struggle.
Their offense will struggle but I also think it has room for improvement in some areas - something that really couldn't be achieved before due to Brady's athletic limitations. Stidham being a much better athlete opens up an entire new way to run the offense (potentially) as long as he can limit turnovers (where Brady still excels).
They will go as far as their D takes them though as long as the turnovers are limited on offense.
And Belichick was forced to play without Brady in 2009 and missed the playoffs and was 5 games worse in the regular season than the year before.
I think you mean 2008 season?
And of course you are comparing a team to the previous year that basically won every game lol....16-0.
To say they were five games worse and missed the playoffs at 11-5 is a bit misleading, no?
Having said that, I don't see the Patriots coming close to a SB with basically an inexperienced QB. Sure his coaching and structure will win games, but I see them maybe a 9 win team. Tops.
Remember too that was a 16-0 returning roster....so huge amounts of talent.
They have the pieces to a good running attack. They rely heavily on TE's and FB, and really struggled when FB Develin went out. If they can replace Develin and get any production from their TE's, they will still be pretty good if their QB can limit TO's.
Chiefs
Seahawks
49ers
Bills
Maybe you can throw the Rams and Texans in there too, but both teams have some major question marks.
If they can split with the Bills and take care of business against the rest of the schedule, I'd say 10-6 looks about right.
Depends on how you look at it. They went from 16-0, to 10-6. I think they miss the playoffs, go 6-10 or 7-9.
2008 Pats: 25.6 PPG (-11.2 PPG)
2010 Colts: 27.2 PPG
2011 Colts: 15.2 PPG (-12.0 PPG)
The 2007 Pats were the best team in Brady's run and the 2010 Colts were the worst team in Peyton's run. Brady's team went from historically dominant to good, Peyton's team went from good to terrible. Yet people make it seem like losing Brady had no effect on the Pats while losing Peyton made the Colts fall apart.
Belichick is amazing, but some of you give him way too much credit and Brady not enough. Belichick has been able to be more creative and invest more on defense because of Brady's greatness carrying mediocre offensive talent for most of his career. The relationship between the two was reciprocal, yet very few seem to want to give Brady any credit for Belichick's success.
2019 Brady isn't the same as 2007 Brady, but he's still better than his basic numbers would suggest. The Pats offense is going to struggle.
Yea, right, and he’s still the best HC of all time and it’s not close. Brady is great too. You can respect both.
It’s also a different kind of “drop” going from a perfectly historically amazing offensive team to a merely good one (pats 07-08) and going from a great offensive team to a terrible one (colts)
It’s also fair to speculate that the 08 pats regress even if Brady plays that year. They really had nowhere to go but down. Brady is amazing but if we’re building teams from scratch and I need to choose a rookie qb, I’ll take Peyton every time. Peyton was NFL ready made. Brady was cultivated.
but this team has no skill position players on offense. i think it's going to be very hard for them to score points this year. i see anywhere from 6-8 wins.
but i think they will be very competitive and in most games because of their defense.