Would you be satisfied if Saquon has LeSean McCoy's career?

If he has a career path similar to Tomlinson, AP, Elliott and McCaffery then he was the right pick. Lets just hope its not along the lines of Trent Richardson, Darren McFadden, Cedric Benson.

I'd settle for the Edgerrin James years in Indy

He’s going into year 3 of his career and has rushed for 2310 yards, caught 1159 yards, and 23 TDs. 14K, 5K, 100 is pretty far fetched in my view, I don’t think anyone has actually done it.

If he were to play 9 more seasons, and equal McCoy, his average season from this year through age 31 would need to be.

1298 RYDs | 427 RecYDs | 9TDs — he’d basically need to be at or near All Pro level for another 9 years.

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McCoy had an 8 year prime stretch where his average season was: 14.5 GMs | 1181 RYDs | 384 RecYDs | 10 TDs During that stretch he was a 5 time Pro Bowler and 2 time All Pro. Barkley is very likely to get extended this offseason, and the contract will likely keep him under team control through his 8th NFL season. If Barkley averages out with that type of production, that’s a great return on the investment for the 2nd pick.

Okay, but no, Not even close. You have to consider both the draft position and the state of the team at the time of the draft. This wasn’t a team that lost its all pro qb to a season ending injury and had the opportunity to draft a luxury position. It’s a team coming off a 3-13 season with a qb that was clearly done, and an offensive line that couldn’t block you or me. So what do they do, they draft a running back. To justify his draft position he needs to both put up Marshall Faulk numbers and generate some wins. McCoys numbers won’t cut it.

If you have any doubt, just listen to the front offices press conferences where they openly admit that they misread the state of the team in the 2018 offseason. The saving grace being that they may have lucked ass backward into an elite qb- maybe.

If a player puts up 8 years of top 10 type total production, that’s a good pick.

Doesn’t make it the right pick for the time, and doesn’t make it the best pick given the circumstances. That’s not what I’m saying at all. I didn’t like the pick.

Eight high quality years in the NFL bucks the statistical trends. Eight high quality years from a running back is an accomplishment.

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If a player puts up 8 years of top 10 type total production, that’s a good pick. Doesn’t make it the right pick for the time, and doesn’t make it the best pick given the circumstances. That’s not what I’m saying at all. I didn’t like the pick. Eight high quality years in the NFL bucks the statistical trends. Eight high quality years from a running back is an accomplishment.

I get what you’re saying, and it’s a respectable argument. But with a franchise that isn’t used to picking that high and clearly screaming for a rebuild regardless of the position, you need a team changing impact. McCoys stats are really good, but given the position and the state of the franchise, it just needs to be impactful beyond that. If we’re talking about a Marshall Faulk or Barry Sanders type career, than amazing pick. McCoys careers, major disappointment.

McCoy is going to end up right on the outside of the HOF conversation. He’s had a sneaky good career.

I just think both sides of the draft evaluation have unreasonable expectations of Barkley. The numbers and comps people throw out make anything short of an unreasonably long and unreasonably productive career a failure.

He’s almost certainly not going to be the best running back ever.

In comment 14925683 jestersdead said:

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If he has a career path similar to Tomlinson, AP, Elliott and McCaffery then he was the right pick. Lets just hope its not along the lines of Trent Richardson, Darren McFadden, Cedric Benson. I'd settle for the Edgerrin James years in Indy

None of thosen3 you don't want had a year on par with him. He is not on a trajectory to be Cedric Benson or the other 2.

Barkley can’t end up being another Eli border line HOF, yes the draft position hurts his cause but that’s also why he can’t just be an ok back when all is done he has to have numbers alone that says HOF first time anything less is unacceptable. I don’t now if the Giants will win a SB in the next seven years that’s his Giants sure bet time as a Giant no idea if he becomes like Eli a live time Giant. The guy is considered a generational talent if he does not provide that on the field for all the world to see then he will always be questioned about his true value and production. Look at the list top five NFL rushers all time who is he second to in physical talent maybe none that’s his karma there can only be just one number one can he become #1 yes. We have drafted the greatest LB of all time LT hopefully we can add the greatest RB of all time Barkley anything less will be a failure.

the generational RB hoo-haa?

It was a ridiculous comment made when he was drafted along with the “hand of god” one, and it certainly hasn’t gotten any less ridiculous at this point.

Barkley does some things on the field that you make you say wow for sure. But so did a lot of former and current top backs during their generations.

are the problem, not the quotes. Who cares what he was called?

He’s a great player and I hope it continues to be that way for a long time. That’s about all there is to say on it.

I would not be shocked if healthy he doesn't put up say 300-1400-10 type numbers running and 90-800-4 type receiving numbers in this offense. I see a lot of quick hits to him out of the backfield to use his superb hands.

Barkley must pass protect better though. Watching him whiff at times is scary.