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NFT: French toast or pancakes?

BlueLou'sBack : 6/28/2020 10:22 am
I'm a French toast guy, all the way, with slot of spicing, both cinnamon and nutmeg. With real maple syrup, although honey in a pinch is doable.

What sayeth thou?
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Pecan pancakes from Crackerbarrel!! We have a local  
carpoon : 6/28/2020 2:08 pm : link
restaurant here in AZ that makes their pancakes southern style by adding cinnamon and vanilla.
However, my favorite pancakes are still buckwheat.
Pecan pancakes from Crackerbarrel!! We have a local  
carpoon : 6/28/2020 2:09 pm : link
restaurant here in AZ that makes their pancakes southern style by adding cinnamon and vanilla.
However, my favorite pancakes are still buckwheat.
Sorry for double post.  
carpoon : 6/28/2020 2:10 pm : link
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RE: Hadnt had French toast in years....  
markky : 6/28/2020 2:20 pm : link
In comment 14925802 jonnyess said:
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...then I recently saw Eggo's Cinnamon/Brown sugar offering at my grocer. For frozen, they're not bad at all. I top w/ light butter and powdered sugar. Good times.


they're ok. Their Cinnamon and Brown Sugar waffles are excellent.
Conundrum in this house.  
81_Great_Dane : 6/28/2020 2:41 pm : link
My wife is gluten intolerant and a lot of gluten-free bread makes lousy French toast. I'm dairy intolerant so most pancake mixes are problematic, even the gluten free ones. So we have to do pancake and waffle batter kind of from scratch, with non-dairy milks and GF flour. We don't bother most of the time.

I'd go waffles #1, pancakes #2, French toast #3, but it's a photo finish among the three.
It really is not easy to answer because...  
EricJ : 6/28/2020 2:43 pm : link
There are ways to make both pancakes and french toast that would make a huge different in determining which is better.

With french toast, the bread is critical and if not selected and prepared carefully, it can result in a horrible experience.
I like both and think this question  
beatrixkiddo : 6/28/2020 3:41 pm : link
is like burgers or pizza? Both are excellent and don't need to be compared to one another.

My secret ingredient to use for any pancake recipe that gives it the best teture/consistency is substitute whole milk w/ almond milk instead. You'll thank me later.

French toast, my favorite is stuffed with creamcheese, topped with crushed toasted pecans, light powder sugar and bourbon maple syrup, what a treat.
RE: Blueberry pancakes with real maple syrup  
Trainmaster : 6/28/2020 3:50 pm : link
+1

Cinnamon Roll French Toast a close second, but at 2000 calories for 3, I usually opt for pancakes.

Dutch Apple Pancakes  
Rick in Dallas : 6/28/2020 4:20 pm : link
From the Original Pancake House in Dallas.
It is awesome.
French toast , made with cinnamon raisin bread.  
Crispino : 6/28/2020 4:37 pm : link
But buckwheat blueberry pancakes are not easily dismissed.
My issue is that when you order  
bubba0825 : 6/28/2020 4:38 pm : link
French toast at a diner you typically get less than when you order pancakes, however a good waffle with strawberries and whipped cream is the best, but I could eat more than one
French Toast with Baileys  
Steve L : 6/28/2020 5:34 pm : link
Or Kaluha instead of milk delicious.
RE: Conundrum in this house.  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/28/2020 5:42 pm : link
In comment 14925855 81_Great_Dane said:
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My wife is gluten intolerant and a lot of gluten-free bread makes lousy French toast. I'm dairy intolerant so most pancake mixes are problematic, even the gluten free ones. So we have to do pancake and waffle batter kind of from scratch, with non-dairy milks and GF flour. We don't bother most of the time.

I'd go waffles #1, pancakes #2, French toast #3, but it's a photo finish among the three.


I had a friend request GF and lactose intolerant recipes for waffles and it wouldn't be much of a stretch to replace the lactose free milk with soya milk or almond milk.

But for my taste, GF and dairy free means I'd go with crepes from a mix of soy, garbanzo bean, potato, and buckwheat flours.

AND EVOO instead of butter.
I had some delicious pancakes this morning  
Jints in Carolina : 6/28/2020 5:43 pm : link
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RE: French toast , made with cinnamon raisin bread.  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/28/2020 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14925883 Crispino said:
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But buckwheat blueberry pancakes are not easily dismissed.


I think the last meal I prepared for my aging dad, at his request, was buckwheat blueberry pancakes.
RE: I like both and think this question  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/28/2020 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14925873 beatrixkiddo said:
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is like burgers or pizza? Both are excellent and don't need to be compared to one another.

My secret ingredient to use for any pancake recipe that gives it the best teture/consistency is substitute whole milk w/ almond milk instead. You'll thank me later.

French toast, my favorite is stuffed with creamcheese, topped with crushed toasted pecans, light powder sugar and bourbon maple syrup, what a treat.



Whoa kiddo, you gotta roll that one back, please. Only in the very loosest, broadest way can pancakes vs french toast be compared to the pizza vs burgers argument.

I ain't buying that one.
the use of real maple syrup is a given on both  
gtt350 : 6/28/2020 5:49 pm : link
any other kind is a waste
i can never decide  
GiantsFan84 : 6/28/2020 6:33 pm : link
i usually reach an agreement with whoever i'm with that i will get pancakes and they get french toast and we share
RE: Dutch Apple Pancakes  
Mike in NY : 6/28/2020 6:52 pm : link
In comment 14925880 Rick in Dallas said:
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From the Original Pancake House in Dallas.
It is awesome.


Been to a few of their locations in Florida and can attest to their Apple Pancakes, although my favorite for pancakes is what I stated above.
Pancakes for me  
adamg : 6/28/2020 7:04 pm : link
Love pancakes... Banana and coconut... mmm
RE: Dutch Apple Pancakes  
Bill L : 6/28/2020 7:06 pm : link
In comment 14925880 Rick in Dallas said:
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From the Original Pancake House in Dallas.
It is awesome.


That was the first place I ever had them. About 30 years ago and I still remember them.
Best pancakes I ever had was in Nashville.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/28/2020 8:52 pm : link
Right by Vandy. I forget the name of the establishment, but they were so damn good.
I think I want to change my answer from FT to pancakes  
djm : 6/28/2020 9:04 pm : link
Because it’s harder to find really awesome French toast and mediocre pancakes are much much better than mediocre French toast. I guess I’m pickier when it comes to French toast, but when it’s right it’s amazing.
I would prefer not to live in a world  
CardinalX : 6/28/2020 11:36 pm : link
where I must choose.
Used to be pancakes.  
Beezer : 6/29/2020 10:33 am : link
Now it's French toast.

No idea why. Just is.
I’m a big fan of banana pancakes if they are very light and well made,  
yatqb : 6/29/2020 1:20 pm : link
but otherwise I usually opt for French Toast.

Trouble is that my wife really doesn’t care for pancakes but often makes FrenchToast at home, so when out for breakfast I usually wind up ordering pancakes. Quite a conundrum! :-)
RE: Dutch Apple Pancakes  
MOOPS : 6/29/2020 1:25 pm : link
In comment 14925880 Rick in Dallas said:
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From the Original Pancake House in Dallas.
It is awesome.


I checked and we have one of those in the Phoenix area. As soon as this Covid thingy goes away, I have to get down there and check that out. Dutch Apple Pancakes. Just the sound of it. Yummy.
French Toast  
Amtoft : 6/29/2020 1:37 pm : link
by far if it is made right. Most restaurants don't make good French Toast. So Pancakes are usually better as they are much more consistent.
Thanks to whoever it was above that mentioned  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/29/2020 1:43 pm : link
ricotta pancakes. That's on tomorrow's breakfast menu.

Used to have a great version of these at a long running cafe on Lombard St in SF's Cow Hollow district, back in the day.

Almost never seen them on menus anywhere else, and I have a good recipe for them, but not AS GOOD as that cafe, now closed, once made.

CRinCA - you know the place from the '80s?
tough call betw' blueberry p'cakes and French Toast  
ColHowPepper : 6/29/2020 2:03 pm : link
butter the skillet to get 'em both golden brown

drop those fat, fresh blueberries on the top of the just-beginning-to-jell tops before flipping

gtt's vanilla extract, for sure, brioche FT so thick, squishy-delicious

agree, BlueLou, the ricotta pancakes sound v good
Lou  
CRinCA : 6/29/2020 3:35 pm : link
I don’t recall the place, but ironically my wife made Lemon Riccota pancakes last week. Lemons from our tree to boot.
RE: RE: Hadnt had French toast in years....  
jonnyess : 6/29/2020 7:30 pm : link
In comment 14925846 markky said:
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In comment 14925802 jonnyess said:


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...then I recently saw Eggo's Cinnamon/Brown sugar offering at my grocer. For frozen, they're not bad at all. I top w/ light butter and powdered sugar. Good times.



they're ok. Their Cinnamon and Brown Sugar waffles are excellent.


My first choice. Unfortunately all the mouth-breather diabetics in my area horde these. Apparently.
French Toast  
ChathamMark : 6/29/2020 8:26 pm : link
One of those 'growing up' things. My Mom was a good cook, pancakes, not so much. Dry as the Sahara. Needed a gallon of milk to get them down. Sorry, Mom...
RE: Lou  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/29/2020 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14926340 CRinCA said:
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I don’t recall the place, but ironically my wife made Lemon Riccota pancakes last week. Lemons from our tree to boot.


Small world? Coincidence or prescience? Meyer lemons, perchance?
RE: Lou  
Bill L : 6/29/2020 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14926340 CRinCA said:
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I don’t recall the place, but ironically my wife made Lemon Riccota pancakes last week. Lemons from our tree to boot.

My favorite (in general; never had your wife’s). Love those pancakes.

Pancakes are so versatile. I get that you can also have combinations of French Toast but those, especially the fat stuffed kind have always seemed gaudy. Like bread with an inferiority complex that’s trying too hard.
Challah Bread is  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 6/29/2020 9:30 pm : link
the best way to do French Toast imo. And when it's right, I'll take it over good pancakes. But it's close enough where it depends on what I'm feeling that day.
Lou- and Bill by extension  
CRinCA : 6/29/2020 11:42 pm : link
Purely a coincidence, but the lemons are your run of the mill variety. That said we recently put in a Meyer lemon tree in a former kids play area hitch is showing some early fruit. Have not given it much thought yet other than a possible Meyer Lemon Meringue Pie.
Like both and getting some good suggestions here on new stuff  
Jim in Forest Hills : 6/30/2020 8:53 am : link
to try.

I like them simple, dressed with fresh fruit, strawberries, blueberries, bananas with just a little maple syrup.
Nothing to do with the question in the OP, but here is  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/30/2020 9:14 am : link
a link to an article by Ruth Reichl about Mark Miller, the owner and chef at the Fourth Street Grill in Berkeley's Gourmet Ghetto that featured the awesome souffle pancakes I referred to earlier.

Ms. Reichl is one of my favorite restaurant reviewers of all time. In a field ripe with corruption and payoffs and simply nasty self important people (everyone see and recall the food critic in "Ratatouille"?) Reichl was refreshingly honest. She rose up from California Magazine to eventually become the lead Food Critic and Food Editor at the NY Times, probably the most prestigious position in Food Writing in the USA at that time.

About Riera's Restaurant in Berkeley - at which I was the opening head chef - she wrote: "The atmosphere is the epitomé of plain, but the food is rather wonderful."
Mark Miller opens the Coyote Cafe in Santa Fe - ( New Window )
My Grandmother used to make  
lono801 : 6/30/2020 7:14 pm : link
Cottage cheese pancakes

I have been trying to find her recipe

I remember 4% cottage cheese only... a bunch of egg yolks and two full eggs...

I remember as a kid thinking this is going to be so disgusting...it was off the charts delicious


I’m a cottage cheese slut...thanks Grandma Betty

I love cottage cheese
lono  
CRinCA : 6/30/2020 8:10 pm : link
Cottage cheese is used interchangeably in many dishes. Some of which my Italian self disagrees with. Manicotti as an example. (My apologies if you already know this.)

For a sweet dish like pancakes it seems ok to me to swap out the ricotta for cottage cheese. Although I’d suggest small curds.
Im a 4% Cottage Cheese Pro...  
lono801 : 6/30/2020 8:40 pm : link
So delicious
Agree- I get it when they have it from Paulie Walnut's former store  
CRinCA : 6/30/2020 8:53 pm : link
here in town.

Does not pair well with vodka however...
Pancakes, bacon and scrambled eggs  
Sneakers O'toole : 6/30/2020 9:19 pm : link
equals a happy Sneakers at breakfast time.
RE: My Grandmother used to make  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/1/2020 11:47 am : link
In comment 14927009 lono801 said:
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Cottage cheese pancakes

I have been trying to find her recipe

I remember 4% cottage cheese only... a bunch of egg yolks and two full eggs...

I remember as a kid thinking this is going to be so disgusting...it was off the charts delicious


I’m a cottage cheese slut...thanks Grandma Betty

I love cottage cheese


Was your Grandma Jewish/Israeli? Because her cottage cheese pancakes sound pretty darn close to the Israeli/Jewish breakfast item served in pretty much every major hotel with a buffet breakfast (~ all of them): warm cheesecake in the steam table lineup.

My wife's favorite breakfast...
CRinCA, cottage cheese is damn near ricotta  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/1/2020 11:51 am : link
if you spin it smooth in a food processor.

I've seen that trick in numerous recipes, and in Israel, where for some strange reason ricotta which is scarce costs twice what most cottage cheeses (which take up a ton of shelf space) cost, it's a common substitution for economy.
RE: CRinCA, cottage cheese is damn near ricotta  
Bill L : 7/1/2020 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14927314 BlueLou'sBack said:
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if you spin it smooth in a food processor.

I've seen that trick in numerous recipes, and in Israel, where for some strange reason ricotta which is scarce costs twice what most cottage cheeses (which take up a ton of shelf space) cost, it's a common substitution for economy.


I should try that. Because, I just can't stand cottage cheese. Maybe it's simply a texture thing.
Texture and sourness, possibly.  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/1/2020 2:28 pm : link
Cottage is typically more tart than ricotta.
no hard and fast rule  
RasputinPrime : 7/1/2020 2:46 pm : link
pancakes / french toast /waffles

whatever i'm in the mood for that day. All good if done well.
10 time out of 10  
Nick in LA : 7/1/2020 3:19 pm : link
French Toast.
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