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Cam Newton to the Pats

pjcas18 : 6/28/2020 7:57 pm
Adam Schefter
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Former NFL MVP Cam Newton has reached agreement on a one-year, incentive-laden deal with the New England Patriots, league sources tell @mortreport and me.

Newton now will step into the mix to try to help replace former Patriots’ QB Tom Brady.
I really hope this season goes off  
bubba0825 : 6/28/2020 7:59 pm : link
It’s shaping up to be one of the most interesting in years.
So much for the Bills being favorites  
Oscar : 6/28/2020 8:03 pm : link
Pats now have Belichick and a better QB provided his shoulder passes the test.
Jets friend texts me...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/28/2020 8:03 pm : link
'Now he'll go back to Cam of 2015. FML.'
Oh for fuck's sake  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 6/28/2020 8:05 pm : link
.
Might lead to the answer to the question...  
CardinalX : 6/28/2020 8:06 pm : link
Who was more important in getting to 9 super bowls and winning 6.

Bill or Tom?

My money's on Bill
I honestly think Cam is cooked  
terz22 : 6/28/2020 8:08 pm : link
But we ll see
I must admit I'm surprised by this.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/28/2020 8:08 pm : link
All I've read/heard from cousins who are Pats fans, Mike Reiss, Tom Curran, etc. is that BB is really high on Stidham & wasn't exactly crying when TB left. Maybe good option if Stidham goes down? Key is that it's very incentive laden.
I know he’s take a lot of hits  
bubba0825 : 6/28/2020 8:08 pm : link
But he’s only 31 and much larger than most QB’s. I feel like he’s going to be used differently than we’ve seen, New England has nothing invested in him and McDaniels is going use him like hill in New Orleans
RE: I must admit I'm surprised by this.  
Giantimistic : 6/28/2020 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14925927 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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All I've read/heard from cousins who are Pats fans, Mike Reiss, Tom Curran, etc. is that BB is really high on Stidham & wasn't exactly crying when TB left. Maybe good option if Stidham goes down? Key is that it's very incentive laden.


They are high on him but Belicheck is not just going to hand him the job. He will have a real competition and go with the most ready to win now. Cam will have a pro bowl year and then sign a huge contract somewhere else, Pats get a 3rd Comp and Stifham is ready to take over.

Leave the ego at the door.  
MOOPS : 6/28/2020 8:21 pm : link
It's BB's show in NE.
RE: I really hope this season goes off  
djm : 6/28/2020 8:26 pm : link
In comment 14925921 bubba0825 said:
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It’s shaping up to be one of the most interesting in years.


You ain’t kidding. I never thought for a second that cam newton and belichick would join forces.
Bill  
Joey in VA : 6/28/2020 8:32 pm : link
Raved about Cam's ability not too many years ago, he talked about how lethal a QB who can move and throw equally well can be. Now he'll see first hand.
The Pats are going to be fascinating  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/28/2020 8:32 pm : link
to watch, provided this season goes off.
Should be interesting  
weeg in the bronx : 6/28/2020 9:34 pm : link
I could see this going south though. Big egos in play.
Never underestimate BB  
TMS : 6/28/2020 9:43 pm : link
moves. He sees CN as a possible game changer in his plans moving forward. What does he have to lose? If he is getting healthy look out on that team.
meh bill thinks he can fix anyone  
Torrag : 6/28/2020 10:05 pm : link
he'll quickly learn that what ails cam, reading defenses and accuracy, aren't going to improve. Sub 60% for his career and under the minimum desired 2:1 TD to INT ratio.

A coach such as Bill lives on his teams and QB's efficiency. He and Cam will turn out to be a bad fit.

Bills Mafia  
OC2.0 : 6/28/2020 10:15 pm : link
Just collectively locked up
Actually  
OC2.0 : 6/28/2020 10:19 pm : link
I kinda figured it would happen before now
Not sure he has to fix Cam  
UConn4523 : 6/28/2020 10:20 pm : link
Belichick knows getting Stidham to replicate or even come close to Brady’s efficiency isn’t likely. It’s going to be a new offense and Cam is also going to have more motivation - could be interesting.
Any chance they switch wardrobes?  
j_rud : 6/28/2020 10:22 pm : link
Id actually pay a few bucks to see that.
RE: Any chance they switch wardrobes?  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/28/2020 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14925963 j_rud said:
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Id actually pay a few bucks to see that.


You mean Cam.and BB?
I give it to week 4 of the regular season  
BH28 : 6/28/2020 10:36 pm : link
Before the media/fans turn on Cam for not adhering to the 'patriot way'
_______  
I am Ninja : 6/28/2020 11:09 pm : link
2019 Brady/belichick >>>> 2020 Newton/belichick
But I heard on hear they were tanking for Lawrence  
Saquads26 : 6/28/2020 11:16 pm : link
Lol
Ugh  
Saquads26 : 6/28/2020 11:18 pm : link
*here
Can't wait to see Cam pouting under that towel  
FranknWeezer : 6/28/2020 11:56 pm : link
and Belichick come up to him on the sideline.
I think some of you are reading too much into this  
Milton : 6/29/2020 3:42 am : link
The details of the contract will give us a better idea of how meaningful his addition is. My guess is that he is getting close to league minimum guaranteed ($1M or thereabouts). And if that's the case, then we are talking about Cam getting no serious offers from other teams and so he picks the team where he thinks he has the best shot at winning the starting QB job and having success. Makes sense for him. And for the Patriots it's a case of adding an experienced starting QB to a roster that can use one. I don't see this as a reflection on Belichick's belief in Stidham. It's simply Belichick taking advantage of an opportunity presented to him. I still think it's Stidham's job to lose with no guarantee that Newton will even supplant Hoyer as the primary backup.

If, on the other hand, it turns out that Newton's one year deal include $3M or more in guaranteed money that's a different story. That kind of money, albeit meager for a starting QB with his resume, is an indication that Belichick expects Cam to win the starting job.
Did the Patriots get  
section125 : 6/29/2020 5:49 am : link
any Pro WRs yet? They are going nowhere until that actually have players that can run routes and catch the football.

As to Brady vs Belichick. Belichick got them to the playoffs and Brady won from there. I'd give the 9 Super Bowls 65/35 Belichick/Brady...
Not a surprise move  
ZogZerg : 6/29/2020 8:14 am : link
It's worth a shot for the Pats.
I think there there is a better chance for this going no where then not.
That's odd, considering all my Pats friends spent this whole offseason  
Heisenberg : 6/29/2020 8:19 am : link
telling me that Stidham was better than Danny Dimes.
How is 3 million guranteed indicative that he is going to be starting  
Zeke's Alibi : 6/29/2020 8:20 am : link
That's mediocre backup qb money.
The change of scenery might be just what Cam needs to restart his  
Spider56 : 6/29/2020 8:32 am : link
career ... As long as he’s healthy and isn’t asked to go after a loose ball, he just might do very well in NE.
Yeah, but what if there’s a QB/RB fumble and scrum,  
Big Blue '56 : 6/29/2020 8:42 am : link
then what?
Cam's shoulder looks pretty cooked, but there is pretty minimal  
Zeke's Alibi : 6/29/2020 8:44 am : link
risk to this move, outside of the fact they will probably carry 3 qbs. If his shoulder miraculously gets better all of a sudden with time off and rehab, you now have a good QB for peanuts. Worst comes to worst, they can use Cam in a wildcat type role.
Cam will have to now work harder...  
EricJ : 6/29/2020 9:22 am : link
than he ever has in his career.
This is a good fit for both sides.  
Section331 : 6/29/2020 9:35 am : link
Cam gets to audition for his next contract, and the Pats aren't on the hook for much if it doesn't work out. Cam doesn't have to be the 2015 version of himself, he just needs to stay healthy and limit TO's. He'll have a good running game and a very good D behind him.
RE: I think some of you are reading too much into this  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/29/2020 9:46 am : link
In comment 14925982 Milton said:
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The details of the contract will give us a better idea of how meaningful his addition is. My guess is that he is getting close to league minimum guaranteed ($1M or thereabouts). And if that's the case, then we are talking about Cam getting no serious offers from other teams and so he picks the team where he thinks he has the best shot at winning the starting QB job and having success. Makes sense for him. And for the Patriots it's a case of adding an experienced starting QB to a roster that can use one. I don't see this as a reflection on Belichick's belief in Stidham. It's simply Belichick taking advantage of an opportunity presented to him. I still think it's Stidham's job to lose with no guarantee that Newton will even supplant Hoyer as the primary backup.

If, on the other hand, it turns out that Newton's one year deal include $3M or more in guaranteed money that's a different story. That kind of money, albeit meager for a starting QB with his resume, is an indication that Belichick expects Cam to win the starting job.


I think this is spot on. Plus, the way this is being reported is telling. Cam will be "in the mix" to be the starter. This is a typical Pats signing. They will take a flier on a player hoping he pans out, and often times it doesn't. And they move on.
Easy one to see coming  
JonC : 6/29/2020 10:07 am : link
as Newton is need of rehab on multiple fronts.
I hate the pats,  
Jim in Forest Hills : 6/29/2020 10:10 am : link
but it would be hilarious to see them take the AFC east again with a move like this. The Jets would be so demoralized.
I'm not sure  
cjac : 6/29/2020 10:34 am : link
Cam Newton can get anywhere near to what he used to be. I guess we will find out.
RE: I hate the pats,  
Big Blue '56 : 6/29/2020 10:48 am : link
In comment 14926113 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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but it would be hilarious to see them take the AFC east again with a move like this. The Jets would be so demoralized.


I think even without Cam the Pats are the team to beat in that division.
Definitely a match that made sense on both sides  
LBH15 : 6/29/2020 11:01 am : link
Though QBs with shoulder injuries are not a good mix.

Cam was playing a pretty high level in early 2018 so for a few million this seems like a decent risk to take for Belichick.
RE: I hate the pats,  
FStubbs : 6/29/2020 11:12 am : link
In comment 14926113 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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but it would be hilarious to see them take the AFC east again with a move like this. The Jets would be so demoralized.


I think the Bills more so than the Jets because the Bills are the team that thinks they can make a move this year.
Cam Newton is  
NINEster : 6/29/2020 12:00 pm : link
2-0 against the Patriots.
RE: I really hope this season goes off  
NINEster : 6/29/2020 12:02 pm : link
In comment 14925921 bubba0825 said:
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It’s shaping up to be one of the most interesting in years.


Oh definitely.

To answer so many questions about certain QBs and coaches, this one really is for the super fans.
How ridiculous is it that we have pro trump ad surveys in a desperate  
Zeke's Alibi : 6/29/2020 12:09 pm : link
attempt to make his approval rating look not pathetic? What happened to the ban on politics
RE: How ridiculous is it that we have pro trump ad surveys in a desperate  
Milton : 6/29/2020 2:11 pm : link
The ads are based on your own personal search history. I have no political ads on the BBI threads I visit (but fans of big asses get 10% off!).
RE: Did the Patriots get  
FStubbs : 6/29/2020 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14925986 section125 said:
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any Pro WRs yet? They are going nowhere until that actually have players that can run routes and catch the football.

As to Brady vs Belichick. Belichick got them to the playoffs and Brady won from there. I'd give the 9 Super Bowls 65/35 Belichick/Brady...


Weird situation in Tampa -

Brady's offensive coordinator is Byron Leftwich. Just marinate on that for a bit.
Newton starting with the  
St. Jimmy : 6/29/2020 8:32 pm : link
Patriots would be fascinating to see. He has a completely different skill set than Brady.
He's trade bait  
upnyg : 6/30/2020 4:44 pm : link
He looks good in pre-season. Somebody goes down, boom! Traded for a #1 draft pick in 2021. Stidham starts game 1
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