I'm sorry but Andrew McCarthy is one of those Actors that somehow fell into great movies. If you want to know how to play a wimp just watch any of his movies. He's horrible and completely gets overshadowed by any other average actor. The only movie where he didn't play the same weak-ass rich boy character was "Weekend at Uncle Bernie's" But yet again he got dominated by a guy who plays a dead guy. His best line was "Come on Steff" in "Pretty In Pink" as James Spader dominates the hell out of him.
Kristen Stewart, Miss piggy nose and really plays the same person in virtually every movie with the only difference being the time period of the flick. Just a dislikable actor on multiple levels and has zero depth of character. She is vapid and boring
Cameron Diaz is oft in movies which her acting is irritable in some way I cant define
Denise Richards was awful. Ditto Selma Blair and Kristen Stewart.
Kristen Stewart is a bigger name that can’t act. How she keeps landing acting jobs blows my mind. She has absolutely no range.
He was great in River's Edge and even Parenthood (in a non-starring role).
His famous line from Parenthood was delivered well and ever relevant: "Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father."
Once these actors get famous they get paid a lot and like most people probably lose some of what got them there.
To be fair I've enjoyed movies from almost everyone listed on here as "actors that have no business being actors" - even Ben Affleck who I named, but also Cage, Costner, obviously De Niro, Roberts, etc. - not sure I've seen James Franco in anything except the Deuce and I thought he was good in that.
Four Weddings and a Funeral is a terrific movie. She, however, is just awful in it. Cringe worthy.
Hilary Swank - did you watch Boys Don't Cry? I thought she was amazing in that movie.
Mark Ruffalo - You can count on me, I thought he was terrific in.
He definitely lost his fastball as he got older, unlike someone like Clint Eastwood or Gene Hackman who stayed up to their previous high standards.
IMO.
This. Yes.
For me, that's Kevin Costner.
Love some of his movies. Every bit of business "being an actor." I just think that's Kevin Costner.
Dave Franco sucks too but he gets roles specific to that so i don't really count him. I'm more thinking starring roles.
Biggest for my is Ryan Reynolds. He lucked into Deadpool since he can be a shitty actor and get away with it, but man is he abysmal. Everything is Van Wilder, which is fine in small doses but i figured he'd try something new after 20 years.
So you belittle those who mention Keanu Reeves and other niche actors... but then go after Ryan Reynolds. Ok then!
Didnt realize Speed and Matrix werent "serious roles" - anyway i mentioned above Reeves was a good guy off-screen so didnt want to be overly harsh... but I fail to see how Reynolds today is thought of differently than Reeves was back then.
I mean Adam Sandler is a horrible actor too, but to your point, I'm not going to get on him for the 2-3 serious movies he's done in his career since everyone knows he's more of a comedian. Jennifer Aniston similar deal.
For me, that's Kevin Costner.
Love some of his movies. Every bit of business "being an actor." I just think that's Kevin Costner.
There are several actors that are like that. Morgan Freeman, Christopher Walken, Sam Jackson... They haven't "acted" in years. They just show up in movies as themselves.
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out for me is Ben Affleck. And he's an award winning actor.
he's the bomb in phantoms.
Word bitch, Phantoms like a muhhhfucker
Another BBI touchstone thread for sure. Good to know whose opinions to completely ignore going forward.
Another BBI touchstone thread for sure. Good to know whose opinions to completely ignore going forward.
I just finished I Know This Much is True this weekend, the Ruffalo mention made me laugh out loud.
Another BBI touchstone thread for sure. Good to know whose opinions to completely ignore going forward.
Yeah, well how many Teen Choice Awards do they have?
I think the way to view it is that sometimes he just took a role for the paycheck. It's not really any more complicated than that. There's only so many oscar worthy roles to begin with. Not many actors are going to be like Daniel Day Lewis and take on one project every 4-5 years.
Always liked him in the movie Family Man. But I am not sure I can point to too many other flicks.
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I don’t agree “he has no business being an actor”, but I also think he is insanely overrated outside of his work from the 70s.
Yes.. I clearly stated exactly what you said with the exception of mentioning the 70's. We are aligned.
I thought Di Nero was excellent in "Heat"
LOL, it was actually 2 (i'm on Central Time) and I was up waiting on a Zoom call from Europe.
Pretty in Pink happened to be on and it reminded me of how shitty an actor he was
LOL....Sorry CiP
Another BBI touchstone thread for sure. Good to know whose opinions to completely ignore going forward.
^^ another person with a reading comprehension problem
That sums up my argument and was exactly my point.
Glad my DeNiro comment has stimulated some discussion.
For example: De Niro's calling card is intensity...bound up internal intensity. But you can read his inner monologue better than Eastwoods intensity ( although Eastwood got better and better over the years and always was I wiser chooser of roles and teams that worked). He also worked with the remnants of the studio system for a long time and DeNiro worked with NY and European independents
GoodFellas was a 1990 movie. Remember the scene when you just know he just made up his mind to kill Mortie? Cream comes on the soundtrack? "That's how quick a guy can get wacked?" Watch it. Guy acts without moving a muscle...just his eyes change and you know all you need to know with stunning clarity
Ok...that's a terrible actor since the 1970s? Seriously?
Since 1970:
Mean Streets
Bang the Drum Slowly
Godfather Part 2
Raging Bull
Taxi Driver
The Deer Hunter
The Untouchables
Casino
Heat
Bronx Tale
The Irishman
Now if we want to talk about wtf was he doing in a long list of junk that didn't fit...we agree.
Lets look at Reeves: Laughably wooden and automaton ( without Schwarzenegger's comedic flair for automatons). Did ok for what ever reason in Speed. First Matrix fit. Rest of the trilogy couldn't be rescued by any actor and wasn't.
First John Wick what he can do and the film fit. 2 and 3 are cartoons so the actor doesn't matter.
I understand De Niro's problem easier than Reeves. DeNiro gets offered a lot and lives high with several expensive divorces. Reeves makes choices based on people he likes or feels for.
Cage I assume is a flake who does some movies while mentally being on other planets. And is terrible about managing his money.
Some actors I never got the appeal in any movie: Dustin Hoffman, Kirk or Michael Douglas, Kevin Bacon, McCarthy, Anthony Michael Hall, a very long list of Travolta except Pulp Fiction, etc.
Cape Fear was a good one too
Lol, his character (Detective Fanning) in Collateral annoyed the crap out of me.
If you want to see something funny, watch Andy Samberg impersonate him on SNL, especially the one where Cage is on the show with him.
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I just think he is overrated and he seems to be the same person in every movie.
That sums up my argument and was exactly my point.
Glad my DeNiro comment has stimulated some discussion.
I’m a big fan of DeNiro but agree many of his characters are the same. However, Cape Fear and This Boy’s Life were bad guys, but interesting characters. Not gangster types.
Nic Cage can be great with the right roles. Since he spends immense sums of money on ludicrous things, he takes virtually anything he's offered. That's how the guy who was so good in Leaving Las Vegas, Matchstick Men, Adaptation, and others ends up in a parade of horrendous dreck like The Wicker Man, Knowing, Left Behind, Ghost Rider, Bangkok Dangerous, and so on and so on.
Quite a few of these people named here aren't terrible. They just don't have a lot of range, and when they stray from what they do well they struggle.
Battlefield Earth happened. He hasn’t been the same since. I watched about 10 minutes of that Gotti movie and thought I was watching a comedy.
I thought he was pretty good as Shapiro in the OJ mini-series. In fact, that whole show was really good.
I'm a Nick Cage fan, for all the heat he gets. Yeah, he takes ANY role, many clunkers, but he's killed in some of my favorites too. LOVED him in Raising Arizona, Family Man, Wild at Heart.
I'm a Nick Cage fan, for all the heat he gets. Yeah, he takes ANY role, many clunkers, but he's killed in some of my favorites too. LOVED him in Raising Arizona, Family Man, Wild at Heart.
I used to hate Mark Wahlberg, but ever since I watched Instant Family on a plane, I've become a fan. I'm enjoying his exasperated parenting movies, Daddy's Home, etc.
I went to the same high school that Travolta went to (although he never ultimately graduated). His name was carved into my chair in one of my classes. It was funny that the chair was there for that long.
Nic Cage can be great with the right roles. Since he spends immense sums of money on ludicrous things, he takes virtually anything he's offered. That's how the guy who was so good in Leaving Las Vegas, Matchstick Men, Adaptation, and others ends up in a parade of horrendous dreck like The Wicker Man, Knowing, Left Behind, Ghost Rider, Bangkok Dangerous, and so on and so on.
Quite a few of these people named here aren't terrible. They just don't have a lot of range, and when they stray from what they do well they struggle.
Depends on the audience too for Cage. My kids love the National Treasure movies.
I liked Raising Arizona. And who doesn't like Con Air? It's like Road House but on a plane with convicts.
But when he's bad, man he's bad. Some people say it's the script, or the role, or whatever, sure it probably is, but most fans it's part and parcel on the actor.
I think the key here for me (again) is with almost everyone mentioned in the thread I have found at least some of their work entertaining.
Another BBI touchstone thread for sure. Good to know whose opinions to completely ignore going forward.
Yep, some people are idiots 🤷♂️
And what about Billy Zane? No hate for him? I thought I could count on you guys.
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But in his later years he started accepting roles in some really bad movies, and mailing in some performances. I don't know if he just needed the money or what. Pretending he was never great is absurd.
Nic Cage can be great with the right roles. Since he spends immense sums of money on ludicrous things, he takes virtually anything he's offered. That's how the guy who was so good in Leaving Las Vegas, Matchstick Men, Adaptation, and others ends up in a parade of horrendous dreck like The Wicker Man, Knowing, Left Behind, Ghost Rider, Bangkok Dangerous, and so on and so on.
Quite a few of these people named here aren't terrible. They just don't have a lot of range, and when they stray from what they do well they struggle.
Depends on the audience too for Cage. My kids love the National Treasure movies.
I liked Raising Arizona. And who doesn't like Con Air? It's like Road House but on a plane with convicts.
But when he's bad, man he's bad. Some people say it's the script, or the role, or whatever, sure it probably is, but most fans it's part and parcel on the actor.
I think the key here for me (again) is with almost everyone mentioned in the thread I have found at least some of their work entertaining.
I liked Cage in Leaving Las Vegas.
I don't know how to judge acting. If I like a movie than I like the actor. For example, I have no idea if William Hurt is a good actor but I have liked some movies he has been in so I like the actor. Although when I think about Hurt, he seems to act the same in every movie.
Looks and charisma, mildly funny.