NFT: Actors that have no business being Actors

...except for his "glove doesn't fit" performance... that should have won him an Oscar for sure. Maybe the best and most important performance of our generation.

But in that vein I really enjoy his supporting roles work. I thought he was perfect in "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood". As was DiCaprio, who I think is an outstanding Leading Man. Him in "The Departed" is one of my favorite acting performances I've ever seen.

He's a terrible actor.

In comment 14926416 Route 9 said:

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He's a terrible actor.

Mixed bag with Smith for me. Too much overacting in Independence Day, Hitch, Men in Black. But some really good performances in The Pursuit of Happyness, Ali, and that end of the world one that I can’t remember the name of right now.

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In comment 14926416 Route 9 said: Quote: He's a terrible actor. Mixed bag with Smith for me. Too much overacting in Independence Day, Hitch, Men in Black. But some really good performances in The Pursuit of Happyness, Ali, and that end of the world one that I can’t remember the name of right now.

I am Legend

thanks Robbie

but I always felt like Will Smith should have played Alex Cross in the James Patterson Alex Cross stories (Along Came a Spider, Kiss the Girls, and Alex Cross).

Morgan Freeman played him in a couple of them. Tyler Perry in the latest. Neither really impressively IMO (compared to the books).

I read those books since the beginning, and in my head I envisioned Cross as Will Smith. Freeman was way too old. Almost as bad casting as Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher.

Ray Liotta.

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is cringe...almost every role.

Demi Moore, ugh.

I totally disagree with people mentioning DeNiro, Hoffman, etc. You can quibble but they are historically great actors.

In comment 14926400 robbieballs2003 said:

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I don't think it gets better than Daniel Day Lewis.

An excellent choice, but for me the absolute apex is Meryl Streep. I remember as a kid in the 80s she had a string of movies each year, each with a completely different look, accent, etc. She truly becomes a different person with each role. I also admire for attempts at genres like comedy and musicals, when those aren't her forte. I think she can play any role and do it better than anyone else. She is truly a marvel. I think she actually is roobed of accolades because she has been nominated so many times that she gets passed over for the actual award. She really should have more than a handful of Oscars, instead of the 3 she has.

He is another one who can just play so many different roles.

I will add that including Deniro on this list is just ridiculous. He has done some real shit in his latter years and he will admit as much. But, this guy is an iconic actor and has such a long resume of fantastic performances.

Smith just can’t act all that well and he can’t shake how he acted on Fresh Prince. I enjoy some of his movies for what they are but it usually isn’t because of good acting.

Ray Liotta I can’t stand. Nails on a chalk board voice and he really rode the Goodfellas train until the bitter end (shitty Chantix commercials). He wasn’t even good in Goodfellas which is also funny - completely carried by the rest of the cast.

Costner - he is not a great actor, but also not terrible. He has played some roles and been in some movies I just really enjoy to go along with some forgettable ones. But, I find myself liking him more often than not.

Cruise - another guy I end up enjoying more often than not. Yes, he has played the same type of guy a lot and yes, him as Jack Reacher is perhaps the worst job of movie casting in the history of cinema. But, he was great in a bunch of good to very good movies.

Will Smith - I agree with one of the last posts about him. I go hot and cold with him. I find myself really split and I do find I feel him overacting (both comedy and drama) a lot. But, he also has a charm that draws you in.

I don't think he was mentioned, but Ashton Kutcher belongs on this list. He is very often just painful to watch.,

In comment 14926458 Matt M. said:

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Costner - he is not a great actor, but also not terrible. He has played some roles and been in some movies I just really enjoy to go along with some forgettable ones. But, I find myself liking him more often than not. Cruise - another guy I end up enjoying more often than not. Yes, he has played the same type of guy a lot and yes, him as Jack Reacher is perhaps the worst job of movie casting in the history of cinema. But, he was great in a bunch of good to very good movies. Will Smith - I agree with one of the last posts about him. I go hot and cold with him. I find myself really split and I do find I feel him overacting (both comedy and drama) a lot. But, he also has a charm that draws you in. I don't think he was mentioned, but Ashton Kutcher belongs on this list. He is very often just painful to watch.,

Cruise put on a hell of a performance in Born on the Fourth of July. That would have won an Oscar pretty much any year. But if I remember correctly he was matched up against Daniel Day Lewis for My Left Foot. Being matched up against Daniel Day Lewis doesn’t work out well when it comes to awards lol.

In comment 14926457 UConn4523 said:

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Smith just can’t act all that well and he can’t shake how he acted on Fresh Prince. I enjoy some of his movies for what they are but it usually isn’t because of good acting. Ray Liotta I can’t stand. Nails on a chalk board voice and he really rode the Goodfellas train until the bitter end (shitty Chantix commercials). He wasn’t even good in Goodfellas which is also funny - completely carried by the rest of the cast.

I actually liked Liotta a lot in Goodfellas, he seemed to fit the role well to me. But he didn’t do much of anything outside of that movie.

In comment 14926350 XBRONX said:

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Penn great actor GREAT humanitarian. Wow Greg

GREAT humanitarian!

Self=proclaimed martial artist and truly made some horrible movies.
"Anyone seen Bobby Lupo?"
"Come, and come, and get some"

ALso he falsely claimed he was an Ex-Navy Seal and has had numerous complaints of Sexual Harassment against him.

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Self=proclaimed martial artist and truly made some horrible movies. "Anyone seen Bobby Lupo?" "Come, and come, and get some" ALso he falsely claimed he was an Ex-Navy Seal and has had numerous complaints of Sexual Harassment against him.

Plus he's such an egomaniac he rarely if ever let his characters get hit by the bad guy. It was always a totally one sided fight like an adult taking on a 3 year old

In comment 14926381 widmerseyebrow said:

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I won't go as far to say as he doesn't belong as an actor, but he is pretty much the same, stoic hero chacater in all of his serious roles.

I liked him in Fury.

Playing the stoic hero character.

lol

She owes about $200 Million to her smile. I don't think she's a bad actress and she's had some good roles, but I've always felt like her "best trait" was just that she had a nice smile. I know looks obviously matter when in comes to every actor, but I'm talking just specifically her smile.

Al Pacino is another example of a good actor who at some point, just mailed it in. For years now he just shows up on movie sets and yells, "Scent of a Woman" style all over the place. Once again, not saying he's a bad actor, but lately he's on autopilot. That includes his Hoffa in The Irishman.

FWIW, regarding Costner, I thought he was great as Jonathan Kent in Man of Steel.

Lastly, no thread involving Nic Cage's acting is complete without a viewing of the YouTube classic, "Nic Cage Losing His Shit."
A true thespian. - ( New Window )

Aldo Raine was stoic? David Mills was stoic?

I'll cop to being a big Brad Pitt fan, but I have no idea what you're talking about.

as Greg mentioned he’s had a pretty diverse catalog, many of which are great performances. He’s actually getting better with age too, will be interesting to see what roles he takes over the next few years. He was fantastic in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

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Aldo Raine was stoic? David Mills was stoic? I'll cop to being a big Brad Pitt fan, but I have no idea what you're talking about.

Was thinking the same thing and would add Killing Them Softly to the list. I recently saw Ad Astra and really loved it, Id put that near the top of his list. That was an understated/stoic performance but thats far from all he does.

Guess you missed Hurricane Katrina. You sound like a big fan of Brownie. You are so ignorant.

In comment 14926507 Greg from LI said:

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Aldo Raine was stoic? David Mills was stoic? I'll cop to being a big Brad Pitt fan, but I have no idea what you're talking about.

Don't forget Rusty Ryan from Ocean's 11 series.

Certainly not Tristan from Legends of the Fall.

Billy Beane?

no idea what he's talking about either.

In comment 14926483 jnoble said:

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In comment 14926472 montanagiant said: Quote: Self=proclaimed martial artist and truly made some horrible movies. "Anyone seen Bobby Lupo?" "Come, and come, and get some" ALso he falsely claimed he was an Ex-Navy Seal and has had numerous complaints of Sexual Harassment against him. Plus he's such an egomaniac he rarely if ever let his characters get hit by the bad guy. It was always a totally one sided fight like an adult taking on a 3 year old

Great observation

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In comment 14926483 jnoble said: Quote: In comment 14926472 montanagiant said: Quote: Self=proclaimed martial artist and truly made some horrible movies. "Anyone seen Bobby Lupo?" "Come, and come, and get some" ALso he falsely claimed he was an Ex-Navy Seal and has had numerous complaints of Sexual Harassment against him. Plus he's such an egomaniac he rarely if ever let his characters get hit by the bad guy. It was always a totally one sided fight like an adult taking on a 3 year old Great observation

I remember hearing he was super pissed about them killing him off so early in Executive Decision. He almost backed out of the film. I think that’s the first movie his character ever died in.

Snatch while you're at it.

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Snatch while you're at it.

Love that movie!

In comment 14926350 XBRONX said:

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Penn great actor GREAT humanitarian. Wow Greg

He is also a POS.

Unwatchable is the word that comes to mind.

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all the posts is that I can agree and disagree on the same actor..there are some decent opposing arguments on the same person.
DeNiro was great as was Pacino..not so much now.(Angry old man)

Penn is a very good actor - like Greg can't stand the person

Costner - love him(except Water World) even Postman!

Cage is good for what he does - he is not great but plays his roll and sells tickets as does Reeves.

Pitt is fine - Fury, Snatch, Troy pretty big spread

Travolta - Michael(? Loved that movie), Face Off, Pulp Fiction

Morgan Freeman - put him in a movie, I am watching

Lot of people do not like Mark Wahlberg - I do

But Adam Sandler, Ashton Kutcher, Ben Affleck - blah

How many Streeps, Hepburns, Brandos, Bogarts, Stewarts are there? Today with CGI and special effects the actors can be less accomplish selling their character.

I am Legend sucked.

So many bad scenes in the Fresh Prince, lol. Will Smith gave us especially bad performances from that show, crying in the hospital bed for example comes to mind. Him always yelling to someone out of the view of the camera made me cringe. Of course I have a fondness for the show being a 90's kid, but wow he sucked. He never distanced himself from that "cool, hip, over everything" sitcom kid from 25-30 years ago.

He is still the "fresh prince" to me but he's 57 or whatever he is now. Just the way they always have to oversell him being the alpha male every single movie to compensate for his shitty acting and so other mediocre actors don't undermine him all the time. Too over-the-top.

He probably is a really nice guy so directors of these films must like him for whatever reason to keep his career going.

Speaking of The Fresh Prince, if you want to go down a rabbit hole for one night, I suggest to some that they read up on why the actress who played Aunt Viv and Will didn't get along "IRL". What a shit show.

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How many Streeps, Hepburns, Brandos, Bogarts, Stewarts are there? Today with CGI and special effects the actors can be less accomplish selling their character.

Tom Hanks is a better actor with far more diversity than Bogart or Stewart ever were.

In fact, back in the day, actors bring "themselves" or their own repeated persona into a movie (e.a. Bogart, Clark Gable, Spencer Tracy) was exactly what was wanted and anticipated by their respective directors or producers. It sells tickets.

Streep pretty much stands alone. She is beyond reproach I imagine as the GOAT. The Lawrence Taylor of cinema...

We know you both hate people who are fortunately not like you.

Or isn’t into women.

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Or isn’t into women.

No one said Denise Richards isn't hot, and extremely formable.

But my toenail fungus has more talent acting than she does.

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In comment 14926511 XBRONX said:

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Guess you missed Hurricane Katrina. You sound like a big fan of Brownie. You are so ignorant.

Guess you missed Sean Penn being a mouthpiece for Hugo Chavez. You are so ignorant.

In comment 14926563 BlueLou'sBack said:

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canard. Quote: How many Streeps, Hepburns, Brandos, Bogarts, Stewarts are there? Today with CGI and special effects the actors can be less accomplish selling their character. Tom Hanks is a better actor with far more diversity than Bogart or Stewart ever were. In fact, back in the day, actors bring "themselves" or their own repeated persona into a movie (e.a. Bogart, Clark Gable, Spencer Tracy) was exactly what was wanted and anticipated by their respective directors or producers. It sells tickets. Streep pretty much stands alone. She is beyond reproach I imagine as the GOAT. The Lawrence Taylor of cinema...

I would have agreed if I hadn't made the mistake of watching "Mama Mia" and then showed that I am completely incapable of learning, by watching "Mama Mia"-2.

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In comment 14926511 XBRONX said: Quote: Guess you missed Hurricane Katrina. You sound like a big fan of Brownie. You are so ignorant. Guess you missed Sean Penn being a mouthpiece for Hugo Chavez. You are so ignorant.

They say it's a virtue.

(Not being Chavez' mouthpiece).

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We know you both hate people who are fortunately not like you.

Ha - talking about the pot calling out the kettle. Who is "we" and who do I hate. I don't like Penn. Very good actor, bad life choices..

In comment 14926563 BlueLou'sBack said:

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canard. Streep pretty much stands alone. She is beyond reproach I imagine as the GOAT. The Lawrence Taylor of cinema...

You are right about Hanks. Excellent range.

But a)that was 15 years ago b)I was in Iraq in August 2005 so, yes, I mostly missed Hurricane Katrina

In comment 14926576 Greg from LI said:

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But a)that was 15 years ago b)I was in Iraq in August 2005 so, yes, I mostly missed Hurricane Katrina

Ha, I passed through Katrina when it was just a blob of weather off the coast of Florida and followed it into the Gulf of Mexico on my way to Houston. Amazing transformation in a couple days...

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I don't like Penn. Very good actor, bad life choices..

Madonna was a bad choice...

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In comment 14926574 section125 said: Quote: I don't like Penn. Very good actor, bad life choices.. Madonna was a bad choice...

IDK, I liked Madonna.....but I have a strange taste in music.
But always been fascinated by Hollywood's use it and lose it marital situation.