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Gary Reasons blocks punt, Tom Flynn scores (again)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/29/2020 9:23 am
Unbelievably Tom Flynn actually scored three times on blocked punts during his tenure with the Giants....

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#NYGiants opened 1988 season hosting the defending Super Bowl Champion Redskins. After falling behind 13-0 @Giants came back to tie and took the lead on @GaryReasons blocked punt and Tom Flynn TD return. It was the 3rd straight year Flynn scored on a blocked punt. #GiantsPride

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Every time I look at all these old posts  
M.S. : 6/29/2020 9:26 am : link

I same the same thing to myself:

Wow, we had a lotta good players on those teams!

Can the Giants ever get back to that?
RE: Every time I look at all these old posts  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/29/2020 9:37 am : link
In comment 14926086 M.S. said:
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I same the same thing to myself:

Wow, we had a lotta good players on those teams!

Can the Giants ever get back to that?


What stands out to me is (1) Parcells took a lot more chances than more recent Giants coaches (i.e., trick plays), and (2) the special teams units of those old teams aren't talked about enough.

Take this game, the Giants largely won it because of this blocked punt and the Pepper Johnson sack/Jim Burt score.
not to take anything away from Flynn Reasons or the special teams  
Dinger : 6/29/2020 10:11 am : link
unit but that was a bad snap and the reason for the block.
Parcells didn't always have the flashiest players, but he had leaders  
GiantBlue : 6/29/2020 10:36 am : link
especially in that LB corps. I don't know how any player wouldn't give 120% if you had to come to the sideline and look into the eyes of any of those guys like LT, Carson, Banks, Reasons, etc.

If you came to the Giants and walked into that locker room with those leaders....you knew it was give it your all or look for another team.

I remember a game vs the Lions when the Giants went into halftime down 20-0 and Carson tore up the locker room! They were a different team in the second half.

The fastest way to getting back to the top is to have those ferocious leaders in the locker room to shape the culture.
I loved Flynn's block...  
GA5 : 6/29/2020 10:38 am : link
against the Packers in 1986. They had just cut him. The smile on his face (seen from the endzone shot) as he heads for a touchdown is priceless!
RE: RE: Every time I look at all these old posts  
M.S. : 6/29/2020 11:23 am : link
In comment 14926093 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14926086 M.S. said:


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I same the same thing to myself:

Wow, we had a lotta good players on those teams!

Can the Giants ever get back to that?



What stands out to me is (1) Parcells took a lot more chances than more recent Giants coaches (i.e., trick plays), and (2) the special teams units of those old teams aren't talked about enough.

Take this game, the Giants largely won it because of this blocked punt and the Pepper Johnson sack/Jim Burt score.

Now that you mention that... kinda reminds me of the way Vince Lombardi coached. By and large, he played it pretty conservatively and liked nothing better than running the ball with his power sweeps. But once in awhile he would pull out of his bag of tricks a change of pace play that caught everyone by surprise.
Just seemed like Gary Reasons was always  
LBH15 : 6/29/2020 11:25 am : link
in the mix on a big special teams play.
RE: Parcells didn't always have the flashiest players, but he had leaders  
SGMen : 6/29/2020 11:27 am : link
In comment 14926127 GiantBlue said:
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especially in that LB corps. I don't know how any player wouldn't give 120% if you had to come to the sideline and look into the eyes of any of those guys like LT, Carson, Banks, Reasons, etc.

If you came to the Giants and walked into that locker room with those leaders....you knew it was give it your all or look for another team.

I remember a game vs the Lions when the Giants went into halftime down 20-0 and Carson tore up the locker room! They were a different team in the second half.

The fastest way to getting back to the top is to have those ferocious leaders in the locker room to shape the culture.
Very well said and its absolute truth: character counts.
I do believe D. Jones is a leader. So is Saquon and believe it or not so is Solder. But no one seems close to Carson, Taylor, Reasons and company. This is a team sport. But today's NFL is different in that players have a "1 to 4" year window so building unity is harder.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/29/2020 12:17 pm : link
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I showed his 3rd TD on a punt block but in 1986 Tom Flynn got his 1st in the final game. He was cut by the Packers during the season #NYGiants signed him for depth because of Terry Kinard's knee. Flynn would get revenge on GB & you could see his smile as he scored #GiantsPride
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Parcels coaching staff was outstanding  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 6/29/2020 12:26 pm : link
They would always come out of halftime having figured out a change to give them an edge in the second half.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/29/2020 3:11 pm : link
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Pepper Johnson was an underrated pass rusher. @PepJ52, not LT, held the #NYGiants single game sack mark (4.5) before @OsiUmenyiora broke it with 6 in 2007. In 1988, "Pepper Martin's" sack of Doug Williams caused a fumble that Jim Burt rumbled in for clinching TD. #GiantsPride
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RE: RE: Every time I look at all these old posts  
81_Great_Dane : 6/29/2020 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14926093 Eric from BBI said:
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What stands out to me is (1) Parcells took a lot more chances than more recent Giants coaches (i.e., trick plays), and (2) the special teams units of those old teams aren't talked about enough.
One of the ways the NFL has evolved to become less interesting to watch is that nowadays, the punter is usually the holder on field goals. The punter rarely has the skills to be much of a threat to pass on a fake punt or fake FG. Though punters are often quite athletic and are a real threat to run.

In Parcells' time, the backup QB was typically the holder, and that made the fake field goal a better option. Plus he was a gambler and he believed in challenging his team. He liked to go for it on 4th and short. Like, you guys are good enough to get this yardage, and if you can't get a foot when you really need one, you don't deserve to win a championship anyway. I think the players loved the confidence in them and rose to the occasion.

In recent years, the Giants weren't good enough to rise to the occasion, so gambling on fourth down has been a lot riskier.
I was a fan of both players  
RetroJint : 6/29/2020 6:12 pm : link
Parcells had to bring Reasons back down to earth by continually reminding him: “ Gary you’re not that good . Don’t get carried away.”

Flynn was more of a “ball” athlete than a tackler . If memory serves , he played some QB in a pinch at Pitt U . He had an instinct for finding the ball.

Specials were a mixed bag under Bill . Sometimes they would cost the Giants games . Other times , like this game and the recently featured win over the Vikings on Halloween , they would prove to be the difference in a Giants win . Like Gary running from punt formation against the Niners
RE: Every time I look at all these old posts  
Matt M. : 6/29/2020 8:06 pm : link
In comment 14926086 M.S. said:
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I same the same thing to myself:

Wow, we had a lotta good players on those teams!

Can the Giants ever get back to that?
Yes, and it wasn't just depth. It was good drafting at the right times. They always seemed to have a young guy waiting in the wings as guys got older. As the Suburbanites got old, they were adding Elliott, Roberts, Moore, Reisenberg and had Kratch and Williams in reserve. Same with DL, LBs.
RE: I was a fan of both players  
Matt M. : 6/29/2020 8:13 pm : link
In comment 14926410 RetroJint said:
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Parcells had to bring Reasons back down to earth by continually reminding him: “ Gary you’re not that good . Don’t get carried away.”

Flynn was more of a “ball” athlete than a tackler . If memory serves , he played some QB in a pinch at Pitt U . He had an instinct for finding the ball.

Specials were a mixed bag under Bill . Sometimes they would cost the Giants games . Other times , like this game and the recently featured win over the Vikings on Halloween , they would prove to be the difference in a Giants win . Like Gary running from punt formation against the Niners
It always stood out to me that the Giants used a lot of starters on ST
Big time players, making big time plays  
PhilSimms15 : 6/29/2020 9:29 pm : link
Made the playoffs in ‘81, 84, 85, 86, 89, 90, 93, 97

With a few dominant years thrown in there.

I miss George Young, Bill Parcells, and no Mara’s making football decisions.,
Gary Reasons was a really good player...  
BillKo : 6/30/2020 11:53 am : link
...and excellent value where he was taken in the draft. 4th rounder?

Remember his rookie year being a really good pass defender, and he just kept developing.

And of course the hit in Denver :)

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