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NFT: Mets Player Pool for 2020

pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 12:14 pm
can be up to 60 players.

A couple signings/re-signings:

New York Mets
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We’ve signed RHP Hunter Strickland and plan to add him to our 2020 player pool. #Mets

New York Mets
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We’ve resigned OF Ryan Cordell and expect him to join the 2020 #Mets player pool.

Here is the Mets pool:

Right-handed pitchers

Tyler Bashlor
Dellin Betances
Brad Brach
Jacob deGrom
Edwin Diaz
Jeurys Familia
Robert Gsellman
Walker Lockett
Seth Lugo
Corey Oswalt
Rick Porcello
Jacob Rhame
Paul Sewald
Drew Smith
Marcus Stroman
Michael Wacha

Left-handed pitchers

Steven Matz
David Peterson
Chasen Shreve
Kevin Smith
Justin Wilson
Daniel Zamora

Catchers

Patrick Mazeika
Tomas Nido
Wilson Ramos
Rene Rivera
Ali Sanchez

Infielders

Matt Adams
Pete Alonso
Robinson Cano
J.D. Davis
Andres Gimenez
Luis Guillorme
Jed Lowrie
Jeff McNeil
Max Moroff
Eduardo Nunez
Amed Rosario
Dominic Smith

Outfielders

Yoenis Cespedes
Michael Conforto
Johneshwy Fargas
Jake Marisnick
Brandon Nimmo
Jarrett Parker


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pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 12:14 pm : link
Hunter Strickland  
Pete in MD : 6/29/2020 12:30 pm : link
was just signed and added to the pool.
Strickland  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 12:45 pm : link
was pretty good a few years back but has been in steady decline. Not a bad "gamble" but not explecting much,
Rumor  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 12:52 pm : link
they are also bringing in Melky. Gordon Beckham has been added.

Erasmo Ramírez has shown flashes.
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 12:54 pm : link
Gordon Beckham is not good. Nothing to spin there. I wanted them to add Russell Martin but my guess is either he's not playing (by choice) or heavy interest #Mets
The only 40-man  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 12:56 pm : link
players not currently included are (as far as I can tell):

Thomas Szapucki
Jordan Humphreys
Franklyn Kilome
Stephen Gonsalves

Not familiar with Gonsalves, but I know the other 3 are all coming off injury, but what's the harm in including them? Just can't use that spot on another player?
RE: The only 40-man  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 1:01 pm : link
In comment 14926237 pjcas18 said:
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players not currently included are (as far as I can tell):

Thomas Szapucki
Jordan Humphreys
Franklyn Kilome
Stephen Gonsalves

Not familiar with Gonsalves, but I know the other 3 are all coming off injury, but what's the harm in including them? Just can't use that spot on another player?


Kilome hasn't thrown a pitch since October 2018 so he's probably very rusty. Not sure the deal with Gonsalves as he looked to be maybe their "next" SP up (mostly due to total lack of SP depth)
Humphreys  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 1:03 pm : link
hasn't pitched above A-ball (11 innings in A+) so he's not a surprise. Gonsalves is the one that sticks out for me.
2 month season I would hope  
ZGiants98 : 6/29/2020 1:34 pm : link
Mets think outside the box a bit. If Betances, Familia, Diaz, etc. rebound or any combination of them do I hope they would consider Lugo in the rotation in a lost “throw away season”. Why not with Syndergaard out? Might as well get as many innings out of him as you can.

Maybe consider a strict 5 days between starts with deGrom too, so he doesn’t get an additional day off when there’s off days. Why not? 2 month season.
RE: Humphreys  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14926244 DanMetroMan said:
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hasn't pitched above A-ball (11 innings in A+) so he's not a surprise. Gonsalves is the one that sticks out for me.


I know, my only thoughts though are with no minor league season, maybe get these guys some time with the major league staff. Though I guess Humphreys is a bad example.

Right now the 60-man pool is at 50. Not sure how teams are handling it, if they're loading up to 60, or just going with whoever makes sense. Also not sure how it works - say a guy gets COVID and is sidelined, do they need to replace him with someone from the 60-man pool?
RE: Humphreys  
KDavies : 6/29/2020 1:48 pm : link
In comment 14926244 DanMetroMan said:
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hasn't pitched above A-ball (11 innings in A+) so he's not a surprise. Gonsalves is the one that sticks out for me.


Yeah, that is surprising. Pitched 5 shutout innings in the spring, for what that's worth. Probably going Ramirez above him in the pecking order.
He  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 2:20 pm : link
was never going to be approved (even as a part owner) but some twitter account is outing all of the racist shit Portnoy has said over the years.. YEESH. RIP any chances he had of getting approval.
Lugo in the rotation is an interesting idea w/ short season  
Eric on Li : 6/29/2020 2:49 pm : link
probably need him in BP for the first month but if the rest of the group is solid around him, stretching him out over month 2 could make sense for postseason.

Short season and expanded rosters are going to be really fascinating in so many ways. Even someone like Gimenez could end up just being a really useful extra baserunner and defensive sub late in games. Probably not ideal for development but nothing is ideal this year.
I don't think  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 3:04 pm : link
"unready" players playing in the majors this year (in any capacity - even as a PR) will hurt development.

It's not like they're being dragged away from every day AB's or games in the minors.

there is no minors.
RE: I don't think  
Eric on Li : 6/29/2020 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14926326 pjcas18 said:
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"unready" players playing in the majors this year (in any capacity - even as a PR) will hurt development.

It's not like they're being dragged away from every day AB's or games in the minors.

there is no minors.


Obviously - still not ideal to throw any of these players in if they aren't ready. Pinch running and defense aren't a big deal but you'd rather not see anyone go 0-20 to start their MLB career (or a pitcher getting boat raced).
Joe  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 3:29 pm : link
Ross opting out of the 2020 season. He's nothing special but hurts the Nationals depth.
Zimmerman  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 3:32 pm : link
and Leake also opting out.
Marlins  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 3:44 pm : link
add Nick Vincent, solid move. I would have preferred him to Strickland for sure.
1  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 4:16 pm : link
40 man player for the Mets tested positive and Brodie with his usual idiocy


Anthony DiComo
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-Yoenis Céspedes "should be closer to being game ready than when we saw him last in March," Brodie Van Wagenen said.
Wow lol  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 4:26 pm : link
Lowrie lolz wow. Mets hope Lowrie "continues to transition out of his brace."
All things considered  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 4:33 pm : link
is Lowrie likely going to go down at the Mets worst ever free agent signing?

Worse than Bay? Worse than Bonilla 1.0? Worse than Cuddyer? Anyone else?

They  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 4:36 pm : link
called him up in Sept. and yet nearly a YEAR later he's still in a brace that makes it difficult for him to move... was his signing just a golden parachute from his ex-agent? Good lord.
Not worse than Bay or Luis Castillo  
Eric on Li : 6/29/2020 4:37 pm : link
Cuddyer is tough because of the draft pick - that probably makes him worse than Lowrie even though he graciously retired.
RE: Not worse than Bay or Luis Castillo  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14926369 Eric on Li said:
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Cuddyer is tough because of the draft pick - that probably makes him worse than Lowrie even though he graciously retired.


Castillo was a trade. he was re-signed, but they acquired him initially at the trade deadline, no?

Re-signing your own free agent shouldn't really count.
And Bay  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 4:45 pm : link
broke down, the concussions were insurmountable, but at least (LOL) over three seasons Bay was a net positive fWAR.

Even Cuddyer (barely) was a positive fWAR.

Castillo blows them all away even if you count him, he delivered 2.0 fWAR.

Lowrie was negative WAR and managed just 8 plate appearances.

Of course this year could change all that, but it's not promising.
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2020 4:49 pm : link

Anthony DiComo
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Sounds like the Mets' intention is to go into the season with a traditional five-man rotation of:

-Jacob deGrom
-Marcus Stroman
-Steven Matz
-Rick Porcello
-Michael Wacha

They could still get creative with guys like Lugo/Gsellman in atypical roles, but that's not Plan A.
Hurts losing Syndergaard  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 5:09 pm : link
with him in that rotation I think the Mets staff could go toe to toe with anyone.

Now....meh, need some breakout/return to better days from a couple people.
Lowrie  
TyreeHelmet : 6/29/2020 5:18 pm : link
Did his leg fell off? There has to be more to this story...maybe something with injury insurance. What a weird story...

The back end of the rotation is really iffy. The Noah injury and letting Wheeler walk will really hurt.
war doesn't matter when you are talking sub-replacement level players  
Eric on Li : 6/29/2020 5:51 pm : link
on the field any of them could have been pretty easily replaced by guys making league minimum. So the question is who was most overpaid. Castillo was a UFA when resigned, same as Cespedes who I'd also consider a bad FA contract separate from being acquired via trade, though he was obviously a much bigger positive than any of these guys because he at least led them to their only division win in the last decade plus a wild card.

32 year old Castillo - 4 years $25m.
36 year old Cuddyer - 2 years $16m + 15th pick in 2015 draft, retired before year 2.
31 year old Bay - 4 years $66m.
35 year old Lowrie - 2 years $20m, adjusted to about $14m w/ proration. Also probably got some insurance $ last year.

It's pick your poison but Lowrie's contract was the least restrictive even though he will have ended up playing the least. In a weird way his inability to play makes his presence more favorable than if we'd been forced to give a bad player at bats (like Bay and Cuddyer). He was truly the definition of a paper transaction with minimal real world impact. The others hurt their respective teams on the field more just because they were on it more.
Whatever  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 6:02 pm : link
not worth debating IMO, it's a shortest midget contest, they all sucked.

The fact that Lowrie has a chance to play in the least games makes the money all thrown away and it' true, I guess you could view that as a good thing, expect Lowrie was coming off a 3.6 fWAR season when the Mets signed him so going from that to 0.0 hurts.

Only Bay was coming off a better season. Still wonder if there were PEDs there maybe or just the benefit of the stacked lineup.

Interestingly enough Lowrie was also on that 2009 Red Sox team.
Good news  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 6:47 pm : link
....

Tim Healey
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Mets news: They have signed second-round draft pick J.T. Ginn, a source says.
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pjcas18 : 6/29/2020 6:48 pm : link
Joe DeMayo
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Source: #Mets have signed 2nd round pick, RHP J.T. Ginn out of @HailStateBB
for $2.9 million (Pick 52 Slot Value: $1,403,200). 1st round talent who fell due to having Tommy John Surgery in March. #2 type starter upside with potential for 3 plus pitches. @MLBDraft
love mets signings with last 2 drafts  
Payasdaddy : 6/29/2020 7:57 pm : link
hope brodie doesnt trade them away like Kelenic and SWR
2023 may have a nice young staff ready for majors
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DanMetroMan : 6/30/2020 11:39 am : link
Major League Baseball has pre-approved seven groups as qualified bidders for the franchise, a person with direct knowledge of the matter told Sportico. The person was granted anonymity because the process is private.

The groups must sign non-disclosure agreements as part of the process, which includes access to a so-called data room that allows the prospective bidders to begin their due diligence.

Allen & Co. is overseeing the process for the Mets, who in December said they were in negotiations to sell up to 80% of the club to hedge fund titan Steve Cohen in a deal that valued the club at $2.6 billion. Those talks fell apart, prompting Allen & Co. to restart the process.

MLB and Allen & Co. declined to comment.
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the only scary part of the 7 bidders- does 1 want to win badly enough  
Eric on Li : 6/30/2020 12:00 pm : link
that they allow the Wilpons to remain in control for some period of time?
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pjcas18 : 6/30/2020 8:09 pm : link
Michael Mayer
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Mets announce they’ve signed veteran right-handed reliever Jared Hughes.

He had a 4.04 ERA in 72 games last year and a 1.94 ERA in 2018.
Nice article on J T Ginn  
Ira : 7/1/2020 9:43 am : link
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