"From everyone I've talked to in the know since then, it's clear that the Knicks were the first choice," Simmons explained. "It was basically the Knicks' to lose, and they just couldn't stay out of their own way. The stories are legendary."
According to Simmons, before opting to sign with the Miami Heat and form a big three with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, James wouldn't even grant the Knicks a second meeting after a first meeting that Simmons called a "disaster."
"Dolan was Dolan," Simmons said about Knicks owner James Dolan. "They didn't have anything prepared. It just couldn't have gone worse by all accounts. It was a disaster. I think at that point, combined with the decade the Knicks just had, I think those guys were just like 'f--k it.'"
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Miami was the only place, if it was chicago they would of went there, if it was the knicks they would of went there..
Miami and riley played it right and get enough cap space for 3 guys
I know they all took a little less to make it work.
The Decision being filmed close by in Greenwich all but confirmed it in my head. He'd make his decision and take NYC by storm the next day.
What a kick in the dick.
i wonder if it would of been different if melo was a free agent...
Would he have still come tk new york? or would he have gone to miami?
If Melo came would they have traded for paul?
Miami was the only place, if it was chicago they would of went there, if it was the knicks they would of went there..
Miami and riley played it right and get enough cap space for 3 guys
they had the assets to attached to Curry to move his contract. It was possible.
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were going whereever they could get 3 guys..
Miami was the only place, if it was chicago they would of went there, if it was the knicks they would of went there..
Miami and riley played it right and get enough cap space for 3 guys
they had the assets to attached to Curry to move his contract. It was possible.
I dont know why he didnt do it
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were going whereever they could get 3 guys..
Miami was the only place, if it was chicago they would of went there, if it was the knicks they would of went there..
Miami and riley played it right and get enough cap space for 3 guys
they had the assets to attached to Curry to move his contract. It was possible.
I dont know why he didnt do it
Because it is the Knicks. And Rose leading the way makes be feel even more uneasy about this franchise.
What better way to validate your rumors by saying Lebron really did want to go to msg.... sure he did.
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were going whereever they could get 3 guys..
Miami was the only place, if it was chicago they would of went there, if it was the knicks they would of went there..
Miami and riley played it right and get enough cap space for 3 guys
they had the assets to attached to Curry to move his contract. It was possible.
I dont know why he didnt do it
Because it is the Knicks. And Rose leading the way makes be feel even more uneasy about this franchise.
The front office on paper is a really good one
Fuck Simmons. Loves tweaking nyc sports. Eli and tyree say hello.
Oy vey.
Walsh 100% wanted Joe Johnson but once the Hawks offered the full 6 year max it was going to be tough to get him
Leon may have pushed to get Eddy Curry and Bargs to NY, but it wasn't Leon that didn't protect the picks in the Curry trade or gave up a first rounder for Bargs.
Yeah, Dolan sucks. Wow, big scoop there Bill.
Agreed.
Is LeBron James prejudiced against handicapped people?
In the last 10 years I've always felt that was glossed over like it's no big deal but it's fucked up if true.
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us Curry, Melo, and Bargnani. Sounds fantastic. I am getting flashbacks of the 90s/00s Knicks teams killing their cap space by trading for names instead of players. We'll see what happens but forgive me if I am not jumping for joy with what has been rumored so far.
Leon may have pushed to get Eddy Curry and Bargs to NY, but it wasn't Leon that didn't protect the picks in the Curry trade or gave up a first rounder for Bargs.
Yeah plus that only proves rose’s abilities as an agent. Honestly I’m going to take this as a positive that the guy can make shit happen. Hopefully he can now help the Knicks take advantage of someone else. That would be a first...
Simmons is not the type of guy to bullshit, his podcast is not really the same as sports talk radio, and I've been chiming into the redraftable series and what not.
He's probably right on both accounts and probably has decent sources, and it sounds incredibly believable.
Not sure how someone could read this and blow it off like there isn't a morsel of truth in it.
What better way to validate your rumors by saying Lebron really did want to go to msg.... sure he did.
Come the fuck on lol.
The Knicks were long the place agents and teams knew were suckers for bad contracts. One thing the Knicks have gotten right in recent years...no more stupid deals that eat up cap space.
Now that just have to hire a coach who’s not a putz and figure out how to develop guys into NBA players. 2 things they haven’t been able to do for 20 years.
As for this story, I’ve never believed the Lebron wanted NY story. Screw Bill Simmons.
A good friend was working for the Heat at the time, and she told me 2 days before the decision that LeBron was coming to Miami along with Bosh and Wade. I told her she was full of shit. Joke was on me
And yes Dolan was the one guy that could mess up a wet dream, so I'll give his story 2% chance of being true
Yup she told me she actually heard from someone from CAA, not from within the Heat. There was a extreme level of secrecy around it all.
"No great loss" ????
Did you not see what happened last off-season? Randle, Portis, Gibson, Ellington, Payton are about 60 million worth of stupid deals....
I don't think this is necessarily a fair take. These deals all involve team options and don't hamstring their ability to do things in the near or long term.
Closest one to a bad deal would be Randle, but hardly an immovable contract, and a cheap team opt-out after next season.
Those moves didn't get them anything, but trying to add some level of talent / veteran presence / toughness to the mix for 2019-2020 around RJ / Mitch / Frank was at least noble on paper.
Cap space doesn't roll over, and it ain't my money. I won't laud the front office for last season by any stretch, but it doesn't even hit the radar insofar as historical Knicks-level-stupidity is concerned, in my opinion.
Did you not see what happened last off-season? Randle, Portis, Gibson, Ellington, Payton are about 60 million worth of stupid deals....
+5000. Last off-season was an absolute clusterfuck
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Randle, Portis, Gibson, Ellington, Payton are about 60 million worth of stupid deals....
I don't think this is necessarily a fair take. These deals all involve team options and don't hamstring their ability to do things in the near or long term.
Closest one to a bad deal would be Randle, but hardly an immovable contract, and a cheap team opt-out after next season.
Those moves didn't get them anything, but trying to add some level of talent / veteran presence / toughness to the mix for 2019-2020 around RJ / Mitch / Frank was at least noble on paper.
Cap space doesn't roll over, and it ain't my money. I won't laud the front office for last season by any stretch, but it doesn't even hit the radar insofar as historical Knicks-level-stupidity is concerned, in my opinion.
They were bad deals that proved they had no "plan" and filled the roster with very limited upside veterans to the detriment of the younger players. You don't need 5-6 of these guys. Taj Gibson? Sure. But you don't need to add Gibson, Ellington, Portis, Bullock AND Payton. Marcus Morris was fine because it was clear he'd have mid-season trade value but in addition to all of the other mediocrity = made no sense.