but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
Completely untrue. I actually think the exact opposite - when the “snowflakes” push back the accusers typically can’t handle it. Fascinating character study, I experience it a lot with some friends of mine.
but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.
Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
Completely untrue. I actually think the exact opposite - when the “snowflakes” push back the accusers typically can’t handle it. Fascinating character study, I experience it a lot with some friends of mine.
but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.
but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.
but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.
but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol
I say once you relocate, a new legacy is born :D
So, NY to NJ doesn't count as relocating for you?
Wait. Building a stadium 16 miles from your previous stadium is actually considered a “relocation” by you? Lol. By that definition
, every team in the history of sports that isn’t playing in the original stadium that they start in has been relocated.
You cannot be serious here. Sometimes it’s better to just chalk up the other person’s perspective as being flawed and moving on, rather than lowering yourself to their standards and create an even more flawed argument simply to try to “win” an argument.
but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.
but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol
I say once you relocate, a new legacy is born :D
So, NY to NJ doesn't count as relocating for you?
They kept the New York name, so I don't consider it relocating :)
comparing caricatures to sambos is that black people don't look like sambo characters. thats just racist white people shit.
to me the term Indian as a team name is worse than the logo(maybe have the logo in red doesn't help).
but the redskins logo doesn't seem offensive. the name sure as hell does. the question is would people find "the washington Tribes" or "Tribesman" offensive too in this climate where everything is offensive.
Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
The Texas Rangers have come under fire for the racist history of the namesakes.
Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
Completely untrue. I actually think the exact opposite - when the “snowflakes” push back the accusers typically can’t handle it. Fascinating character study, I experience it a lot with some friends of mine.
It is amazing and fun to see how out of sorts some people get when called out on something by so called "snowflakes." Snowflakes have no right to be offended but something, butnthey have every right to blow a gasket over it.
The majority of Native Americans feel about all these names, Braves, Chiefs, Warriors, Redskins, etc.
Not really relevant what any of us think.
Have the Golden State Warriors ever made any reference to Native Americans? As far back as I can remember (circa 1994) their logo was a friggin miscolored bridge.
The word "warrior" itself has no explicit connection to Native Americans.
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Have the Golden State Warriors ever made any reference to Native Americans? As far back as I can remember (circa 1994) their logo was a friggin miscolored bridge.
Seems unlikely their logo was the Bay Bridge when they played in Philadelphia. I wonder if the internet keeps track of these things.
Nike has pulled Washington merch from their website
And I dont see Snyder budging. You can expect protests outside FedEx if there is football in the fall. Regardless of how you feel about the name I think we can agree that'll be fun.
RE: RE: RE: I would really be interested to learn what
Have the Golden State Warriors ever made any reference to Native Americans? As far back as I can remember (circa 1994) their logo was a friggin miscolored bridge.
Seems unlikely their logo was the Bay Bridge when they played in Philadelphia. I wonder if the internet keeps track of these things.
Thanks Mike, gotta love that '51 logo! Also, way to step on a decent joke about the Warriors taking an image of one of the most famous bridges in America and rendering it in the wrong color.
By the way, you sent me down an internet rabbit hole vis-a-vis which bridge is actually in the logo. Seems it used to be the Golden Gate Bridge, but was changed to the Bay Bridge during their last refresh.
Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
Plenty of people care, you just don't, big big difference. Of those you mentioned, Indians is only offensive because Columbus didn't land in fucking India like he thought he did.
Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
Plenty of people care, you just don't, big big difference. Of those you mentioned, Indians is only offensive because Columbus didn't land in fucking India like he thought he did.
Nothing to do with those specific names, but I think the whole idea of names is silly. I really do prefer giving the team sponsor names (akin to field name rights) but, failing that, there’s nothing at all wrong with FC Washington, etc.
that GoTerps made the argument that nothing will change until money gets involved. He indicated until the protest about the name begins to meaningfully affect income, the team and the NFL won’t change the name. Seems to me that’s what is going on right now and GoTerps knew what he was talking about. I think this tactic where the sponsors are demanding the name change will make something happen.
Ok, I took a look...Here's the original article that mentions Snyder trademarking the name for an Arena Team in Washington (a white and gold arrow with feathers logo!!)that never came to be (from 2005): Warriors, Come In to Play!
However, I took a look at the current trademark status for "Washington Warriors", which says "DEAD/APPLICATION/Refused/Dismissed or Invalidated;This trademark application was refused, dismissed, or invalidated by the Office and this application is no longer active."
This may be a THIRD party application that was refused, as when you open up the "Current Owner" tab, you see that the current owner is Washington Football, Inc.
Now, I'm not sure how Snyder kept the trademark, as I thought there was a limitation on how long you can keep a trademark without using it (though Snyder has a lot of political connections with influence).
that GoTerps made the argument that nothing will change until money gets involved. He indicated until the protest about the name begins to meaningfully affect income, the team and the NFL won’t change the name. Seems to me that’s what is going on right now and GoTerps knew what he was talking about. I think this tactic where the sponsors are demanding the name change will make something happen.
What’s the phrase? Go for the money?
This is not a GoTerps revelation. This is how the NFL has always operated, they won’t change until either money gets tight or they see an opportunity to profit.
Just look at the anthem they want to do. A year ago they were fining players for kneeling and now they all of a sudden changed to embrace it? No shot, it’s 100% opportunistic and always has been.
There are some good ideas here about keeping the logo and changing the name. I'm guessing they will go with something military themed. The NFL loves to incorporate jingoistic military displays into their marketing it's catnip to them.
they should probably get rid of the "Washington" part now too. People who find Washington offensive is picking up steam these days.
they should call them themselves something like the Capital City Capitals or something so utterly innocuous no one can ever complain.
And for the record Capital City Capitals is from the Simpsons (Dancin' Homer episode), so if that's the way they go, once again the Simpsons will be prophetic.
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
It appears that winoguy is actually Dan Quayle.
Completely untrue. I actually think the exact opposite - when the “snowflakes” push back the accusers typically can’t handle it. Fascinating character study, I experience it a lot with some friends of mine.
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.
but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol
You sound nice.
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
Completely untrue. I actually think the exact opposite - when the “snowflakes” push back the accusers typically can’t handle it. Fascinating character study, I experience it a lot with some friends of mine.
SMFH...pissing contest.
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.
but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol
I say once you relocate, a new legacy is born :D
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.
but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol
I say once you relocate, a new legacy is born :D
So, NY to NJ doesn't count as relocating for you?
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.
but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol
I say once you relocate, a new legacy is born :D
So, NY to NJ doesn't count as relocating for you?
Wait. Building a stadium 16 miles from your previous stadium is actually considered a “relocation” by you? Lol. By that definition
, every team in the history of sports that isn’t playing in the original stadium that they start in has been relocated.
You cannot be serious here. Sometimes it’s better to just chalk up the other person’s perspective as being flawed and moving on, rather than lowering yourself to their standards and create an even more flawed argument simply to try to “win” an argument.
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).
That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.
I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.
but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol
I say once you relocate, a new legacy is born :D
So, NY to NJ doesn't count as relocating for you?
They kept the New York name, so I don't consider it relocating :)
Not really relevant what any of us think.
to me the term Indian as a team name is worse than the logo(maybe have the logo in red doesn't help).
but the redskins logo doesn't seem offensive. the name sure as hell does. the question is would people find "the washington Tribes" or "Tribesman" offensive too in this climate where everything is offensive.
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
Completely untrue. I actually think the exact opposite - when the “snowflakes” push back the accusers typically can’t handle it. Fascinating character study, I experience it a lot with some friends of mine.
Not really relevant what any of us think.
Have the Golden State Warriors ever made any reference to Native Americans? As far back as I can remember (circa 1994) their logo was a friggin miscolored bridge.
The word "warrior" itself has no explicit connection to Native Americans.
Seems unlikely their logo was the Bay Bridge when they played in Philadelphia. I wonder if the internet keeps track of these things.
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Have the Golden State Warriors ever made any reference to Native Americans? As far back as I can remember (circa 1994) their logo was a friggin miscolored bridge.
Seems unlikely their logo was the Bay Bridge when they played in Philadelphia. I wonder if the internet keeps track of these things.
Thanks Mike, gotta love that '51 logo! Also, way to step on a decent joke about the Warriors taking an image of one of the most famous bridges in America and rendering it in the wrong color.
By the way, you sent me down an internet rabbit hole vis-a-vis which bridge is actually in the logo. Seems it used to be the Golden Gate Bridge, but was changed to the Bay Bridge during their last refresh.
Only 1 guy on this thread seems bothered and/or offended, the irony
Would you use the term “redskin” in the company of an American Indian?
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
Plenty of people care, you just don't, big big difference. Of those you mentioned, Indians is only offensive because Columbus didn't land in fucking India like he thought he did.
Nothing to do with those specific names, but I think the whole idea of names is silly. I really do prefer giving the team sponsor names (akin to field name rights) but, failing that, there’s nothing at all wrong with FC Washington, etc.
I am offended that the league has decided to embrace their own demise with recent announcements.
What’s the phrase? Go for the money?
The Browns were originally the Brown Bombers.
As least that what it says on the internet.
Good.
I am offended that the league has decided to embrace their own demise with recent announcements.
Apparently, there's been some infighting; with Snyder not using the trademark, some squatters have tried to snap it up (see this article from 2015, Trademark squatter banking on different nicknames in hopes of Redskins name change and this one from 2012 Could the Washington Redskins become the Washington Warriors?).
However, I took a look at the current trademark status for "Washington Warriors", which says "DEAD/APPLICATION/Refused/Dismissed or Invalidated;This trademark application was refused, dismissed, or invalidated by the Office and this application is no longer active."
This may be a THIRD party application that was refused, as when you open up the "Current Owner" tab, you see that the current owner is Washington Football, Inc.
Now, I'm not sure how Snyder kept the trademark, as I thought there was a limitation on how long you can keep a trademark without using it (though Snyder has a lot of political connections with influence).
What’s the phrase? Go for the money?
This is not a GoTerps revelation. This is how the NFL has always operated, they won’t change until either money gets tight or they see an opportunity to profit.
Just look at the anthem they want to do. A year ago they were fining players for kneeling and now they all of a sudden changed to embrace it? No shot, it’s 100% opportunistic and always has been.
-Drop the “skins” and just go by Washington Reds
-Keep the same logo, but using an R instead
Fabulous feature of a free market, capitalist economy.
Snyder should volunteer to move the team to Mexico City. Jacksonville will go to London. Goodell will be all over that. It would happen.
Then Snyder gets his revenge at DC by taking away their team.
Washington Generals/Soldiers/Troops/Defenders.
How can you not support the Troops!
Dan, do it! I want this to be their logo...
Dan, do it! I want this to be their logo...
Aren’t they the team that always gets pummeled by the Globetrotters?
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"Washington Generals" is trending on Twitter!
Dan, do it! I want this to be their logo...
Aren’t they the team that always gets pummeled by the Globetrotters?
Yes! That makes it perfect!
I hate the Eagles, Cowboys and Generals now. LOL.
they should call them themselves something like the Capital City Capitals or something so utterly innocuous no one can ever complain.
And for the record Capital City Capitals is from the Simpsons (Dancin' Homer episode), so if that's the way they go, once again the Simpsons will be prophetic.
Redtails - ( New Window )
I don’t think you need to change the logo that much, just replace it with an R and call it a day.
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the ForeSkins but that might be offensive to the Jewish folks.
What would we care? We get rid of that useless flap.
IF YOU DON'T GET THE JOKE DON'T RESPOND YOU FLAPLESS IDIOT