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MattyKid : 7/2/2020 10:35 am
unless they change their name.
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Kata Mara is leading the push  
KDavies : 7/2/2020 10:42 am : link
find that interesting.

They should go with an empty circle like Land O'Lakes
love that Kate is leading the charge  
djm : 7/2/2020 10:45 am : link
it just adds more fuel to the skins fans fire that the Giants are their mortal enemy and stop at nothing to see that franchise falter. Even when we suck, we own that sorry ass team.
Well  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/2/2020 11:28 am : link
"Bullets" is now available.
This has gone on too long...  
trueblueinpw : 7/2/2020 11:35 am : link
I’m no snowflake, but I think you’d have to be pretty biased to fail to see this is a racial epithet.

What’s the big deal with changing the name anyway? You get some positive press, you make people happy and you sell some new merch.

Seriously, this is the hill Synder is dying on? Makes no sense.
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GiantEgo : 7/2/2020 11:40 am : link
There are so many cool names a Washington team could adopt. How on earth did Redskins ever get picked?
So can you keep the native american theme and hence the Logo?  
weeg in the bronx : 7/2/2020 12:05 pm : link
Like the Braves or the Seminoles or is that off limits now?
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Mad Mike : 7/2/2020 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14927861 GiantEgo said:
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There are so many cool names a Washington team could adopt. How on earth did Redskins ever get picked?

They started in Boston as the Braves, sharing a stadium with the namesake baseball team. They then moved to Fenway and changed to the Redskins. The team has (recently) claimed the change was to honor their coach at the time who had native american heritage, though I don't think there's anything documented about the change other than the owner at the time saying he wanted to avoid confusion with the baseball Braves, and that he wanted to bring back "Indian football". (Also, apparently that coach's heritage is somewhat in dispute, and he may have been posing as a native american for some government benefits).
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section125 : 7/2/2020 12:22 pm : link
In comment 14927861 GiantEgo said:
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There are so many cool names a Washington team could adopt. How on earth did Redskins ever get picked?


You do understand that their name is very, very old. Long before anybody thought about it.

If the Washingtons truly want to keep a Native American name theme, ask a local nation's permission to use their name and pay a naming rights fee.

It is such a source of consternation that they really need to bite the "bullet" and change.
Good.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/2/2020 12:23 pm : link
I think it's inevitable too, as much as Dan might put up a fight.
Good  
Anakim : 7/2/2020 12:25 pm : link
Fuck that organization and its history and fuck Dan Snyder
RE: Good  
Chris in Philly : 7/2/2020 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14927908 Anakim said:
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Fuck that organization and its history and fuck Dan Snyder


This adequately sums up my thoughts on the matter.
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ZogZerg : 7/2/2020 12:38 pm : link
In comment 14927895 Mad Mike said:
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There are so many cool names a Washington team could adopt. How on earth did Redskins ever get picked?


They started in Boston as the Braves, sharing a stadium with the namesake baseball team. They then moved to Fenway and changed to the Redskins. The team has (recently) claimed the change was to honor their coach at the time who had native american heritage, though I don't think there's anything documented about the change other than the owner at the time saying he wanted to avoid confusion with the baseball Braves, and that he wanted to bring back "Indian football". (Also, apparently that coach's heritage is somewhat in dispute, and he may have been posing as a native american for some government benefits).


I had the same exact question.
Thanks for the history.

Snyder needs to get off his high horse and take some action. I assume this is all about money and he thinks the value of his team will go down if he changes the name. If he can come up with a cool name, he could make a ton of money selling new merchandise.

In fact, Washington sucks so bad now, this would be the perfect time to change the name.
RE: So can you keep the native american theme and hence the Logo?  
section125 : 7/2/2020 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14927883 weeg in the bronx said:
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Like the Braves or the Seminoles or is that off limits now?


FSU has special permission from the Seminole Nations. In order to keep using the Seminole name, FSU has to meet certain criteria one of which is all students need to take a class on Native American history/heritage(IIRC).
Done with permission, dignity and honor I do not see a problem. IMHO
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Platos : 7/2/2020 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14927895 Mad Mike said:
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There are so many cool names a Washington team could adopt. How on earth did Redskins ever get picked?


They started in Boston as the Braves, sharing a stadium with the namesake baseball team. They then moved to Fenway and changed to the Redskins. The team has (recently) claimed the change was to honor their coach at the time who had native american heritage, though I don't think there's anything documented about the change other than the owner at the time saying he wanted to avoid confusion with the baseball Braves, and that he wanted to bring back "Indian football". (Also, apparently that coach's heritage is somewhat in dispute, and he may have been posing as a native american for some government benefits).


thank god the coach wasn't black!
RE: Well  
BMac : 7/2/2020 12:51 pm : link
In comment 14927851 Eric from BBI said:
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"Bullets" is now available.


How about the "Washington Assault Rifles," or "The Dukes of Washington"?
not that i dont think redskins is derogatory as FK  
Platos : 7/2/2020 12:53 pm : link
but i don't think having native american themed team names/logos is racist. Theres got to be a middle ground somewhere. Braves? cmon. the cleveland indian logo looks racist but THATS WHAT CARTOON CARICATURES ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE. if it was the cleveland greeks, the logo would have a big nose and furry eyebrows.

the same logo with a different name could work.

i was also not a fan of the bullets/wizard change. aesthetically it was horrible.
RE: not that i dont think redskins is derogatory as FK  
Mad Mike : 7/2/2020 1:00 pm : link
In comment 14927928 Platos said:
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but i don't think having native american themed team names/logos is racist. Theres got to be a middle ground somewhere. Braves? cmon. the cleveland indian logo looks racist but THATS WHAT CARTOON CARICATURES ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE. if it was the cleveland greeks, the logo would have a big nose and furry eyebrows.

the same logo with a different name could work.

So as long as a team's name isn't too bluntly offensive, a sambo doll works for a logo?
heh  
ATL_Giants : 7/2/2020 1:00 pm : link
RE: RE: not that i dont think redskins is derogatory as FK  
weeg in the bronx : 7/2/2020 1:09 pm : link
In comment 14927933 Mad Mike said:
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but i don't think having native american themed team names/logos is racist. Theres got to be a middle ground somewhere. Braves? cmon. the cleveland indian logo looks racist but THATS WHAT CARTOON CARICATURES ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE. if it was the cleveland greeks, the logo would have a big nose and furry eyebrows.

the same logo with a different name could work.


So as long as a team's name isn't too bluntly offensive, a sambo doll works for a logo?


Depends. On the left is Sambo imagery, on the right is what was used as the basis for the ND logo.


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Gary from The East End : Admin : 7/2/2020 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14927922 Platos said:
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thank god the coach wasn't black!


I had a joke here and then I thought better of it.
Some of these corporate  
pjcas18 : 7/2/2020 1:52 pm : link
logo/mascot cancellations are misguided IMO and not impactful, but the Redskins is not one of them.

I'm pretty surprised the name hasn't been changed yet. Braves, Chiefs, Blackhawks, and Indians I can see a case for too, but they are not derogatory per se, like the Redskins.

Seems like Snider has his heels firmly dug in, I hope they stay that way, so more and more people hate them and create unnecessary distractions.

It would be nice  
Mike in Marin : 7/2/2020 2:00 pm : link
If it could be decided by some type of vote by Native Americans. That way we would actually know if it is wanted to be changed by more than just a minority of outspoken activists and a few others. I'm all for changing it, but only if the majority of people's whose opinions actually matter and not the Kate Mara's of the world.

Didn't they do a poll a few years ago and found most (native americans?) don't want it changed ?
Keep the name  
winoguy : 7/2/2020 2:04 pm : link
and change the logo to a potatoe...
The Washington Marxists  
sober297 : 7/2/2020 2:07 pm : link
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RE: Well  
BUgiantfan : 7/2/2020 2:09 pm : link
In comment 14927851 Eric from BBI said:
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"Bullets" is now available.


😂😂😂

This would be absolutely amazing if it happened!
winoguy  
Devour the Day : 7/2/2020 2:10 pm : link
is onto something here. Good idea.
RE: Keep the name  
Ben in Tampa : 7/2/2020 2:20 pm : link
In comment 14927976 winoguy said:
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and change the logo to a potatoe...


Best idea I've heard yet.

just change the name to the 'Hogs'  
giants#1 : 7/2/2020 2:50 pm : link
Fits well with Haskins now QB and face of the franchise!










(referencing his predraft workouts...)
Give me a fucking break.  
Knineteen : 7/2/2020 2:50 pm : link
"Investors" give a shit about one thing and one thing only...money.

Redskins changes their name, apparel companies sell a bunch of new merchandise, investors make more money.

That's it, plain and simple.
the problem with  
Platos : 7/2/2020 3:15 pm : link
comparing caricatures to sambos is that black people don't look like sambo characters. thats just racist white people shit.

to me the term Indian as a team name is worse than the logo(maybe have the logo in red doesn't help).

but the redskins logo doesn't seem offensive. the name sure as hell does. the question is would people find "the washington Tribes" or "Tribesman" offensive too in this climate where everything is offensive.
The football team that plays its games in Washington  
FearTheHippo : 7/2/2020 3:29 pm : link
They couldn't do worse than "Nationals." What a god awful name.
Danny Boy could  
cjd2404 : 7/2/2020 3:36 pm : link
just change it to synderskins (which I think people use anyway to refer to him) and then put his profile pic on the helmet. It would totally stroke his ego.
maybe  
Platos : 7/2/2020 3:43 pm : link
the ForeSkins but that might be offensive to the Jewish folks.
why not just the Washington Skins , that's all inclusive  
gtt350 : 7/2/2020 3:47 pm : link
all skins matter
RE: just change the name to the 'Hogs'  
Mike from SI : 7/2/2020 3:52 pm : link
In comment 14928002 giants#1 said:
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Fits well with Haskins now QB and face of the franchise!










(referencing his predraft workouts...)


Or change it to Hog Mollies and trade them Gettleman.
RE: Give me a fucking break.  
Spider56 : 7/2/2020 4:40 pm : link
In comment 14928003 Knineteen said:
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"Investors" give a shit about one thing and one thing only...money.

Redskins changes their name, apparel companies sell a bunch of new merchandise, investors make more money.

That's it, plain and simple.


+1 ... but you know the social media nitwits are going to jump on the bandwagon ... this country with its lack of balls and brains is fast going down the shitter.
Enough of this liberal bullshit!  
Tark10 : 7/2/2020 4:42 pm : link
Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
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GiantEgo : 7/2/2020 4:43 pm : link
In comment 14927904 section125 said:
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There are so many cool names a Washington team could adopt. How on earth did Redskins ever get picked?



You do understand that their name is very, very old. Long before anybody thought about it.

If the Washingtons truly want to keep a Native American name theme, ask a local nation's permission to use their name and pay a naming rights fee.

It is such a source of consternation that they really need to bite the "bullet" and change.


It was a racial slur 100 years ago and its a slur now.
AND.. to add one more comment..  
Tark10 : 7/2/2020 4:44 pm : link
The name GIANTS will soon be under fire as well because it is offensive to short people.
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Spider56 : 7/2/2020 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14928051 GiantEgo said:
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There are so many cool names a Washington team could adopt. How on earth did Redskins ever get picked?



You do understand that their name is very, very old. Long before anybody thought about it.

If the Washingtons truly want to keep a Native American name theme, ask a local nation's permission to use their name and pay a naming rights fee.

It is such a source of consternation that they really need to bite the "bullet" and change.



It was a racial slur 100 years ago and its a slur now.


MEOW !
they should change their name to the 'Natives'  
ImThatGuy : 7/2/2020 5:10 pm : link
I've said this for years

It will help to honor the community/population that they have denigrated for so many years
It shold be more generic and true to principle  
Bill L : 7/2/2020 5:19 pm : link
Change it to something like "The Washington [Your Name Here] and put it out to bid.

Truly, the whole mascot thing is stupid and childish in the first place.
From an old ArenaFan thread  
JohnF : 7/2/2020 5:59 pm : link
Years ago, Snyder was going to buy an Arena League team to play in D.C. He trademarked "Warriors", and I think he still has that name in case the NFL makes him drop the current nickname.
Opps  
JohnF : 7/2/2020 6:03 pm : link
Trademarked "Washington Warriors".
RE: From an old ArenaFan thread  
Anakim : 7/2/2020 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14928086 JohnF said:
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Years ago, Snyder was going to buy an Arena League team to play in D.C. He trademarked "Warriors", and I think he still has that name in case the NFL makes him drop the current nickname.


I don't like it when two "Big 4" sports teams share a nickname
RE: Enough of this liberal bullshit!  
Anakim : 7/2/2020 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14928048 Tark10 said:
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!


Thanks for the rhyme, Johnny Cochran. And thanks for your input. We know you were part of the targeted group after all.
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pjcas18 : 7/2/2020 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14928100 Anakim said:
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Years ago, Snyder was going to buy an Arena League team to play in D.C. He trademarked "Warriors", and I think he still has that name in case the NFL makes him drop the current nickname.



I don't like it when two "Big 4" sports teams share a nickname


Like the Giants and Rangers?
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Anakim : 7/2/2020 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14928103 pjcas18 said:
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Years ago, Snyder was going to buy an Arena League team to play in D.C. He trademarked "Warriors", and I think he still has that name in case the NFL makes him drop the current nickname.



I don't like it when two "Big 4" sports teams share a nickname



Like the Giants and Rangers?


Yessir...but that doesn't mean WEEEEE have to change it. Theyyyy should be the ones to change their names :P WE'VEEEEE been around longer so WEEEE get priority.
Sorry to break it to you  
pjcas18 : 7/2/2020 6:56 pm : link
but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).

That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.



Bahahaha!  
Spider43 : 7/2/2020 7:28 pm : link
Couldn't have happened to a nicer owner or fanbase.
RE: Sorry to break it to you  
Anakim : 7/2/2020 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14928114 pjcas18 said:
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).

That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.




I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.
RE: Keep the name  
BMac : 7/2/2020 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14927976 winoguy said:
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and change the logo to a potatoe...


It appears that winoguy is actually Dan Quayle.
RE: Enough of this liberal bullshit!  
UConn4523 : 7/2/2020 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14928048 Tark10 said:
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!


Completely untrue. I actually think the exact opposite - when the “snowflakes” push back the accusers typically can’t handle it. Fascinating character study, I experience it a lot with some friends of mine.
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pjcas18 : 7/2/2020 7:46 pm : link
In comment 14928137 Anakim said:
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).

That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.






I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.


Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.

but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol
RE: Enough of this liberal bullshit!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/2/2020 7:48 pm : link
In comment 14928048 Tark10 said:
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!


You sound nice.
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section125 : 7/2/2020 7:52 pm : link
In comment 14928145 UConn4523 said:
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!



Completely untrue. I actually think the exact opposite - when the “snowflakes” push back the accusers typically can’t handle it. Fascinating character study, I experience it a lot with some friends of mine.


SMFH...pissing contest.
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Anakim : 7/2/2020 7:58 pm : link
In comment 14928147 pjcas18 said:
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).

That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.






I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.



Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.

but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol


I say once you relocate, a new legacy is born :D
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pjcas18 : 7/2/2020 8:07 pm : link
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).

That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.






I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.



Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.

but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol



I say once you relocate, a new legacy is born :D



So, NY to NJ doesn't count as relocating for you?
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BigBlueShock : 7/2/2020 8:20 pm : link
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).

That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.






I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.



Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.

but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol



I say once you relocate, a new legacy is born :D




So, NY to NJ doesn't count as relocating for you?

Wait. Building a stadium 16 miles from your previous stadium is actually considered a “relocation” by you? Lol. By that definition
, every team in the history of sports that isn’t playing in the original stadium that they start in has been relocated.

You cannot be serious here. Sometimes it’s better to just chalk up the other person’s perspective as being flawed and moving on, rather than lowering yourself to their standards and create an even more flawed argument simply to try to “win” an argument.
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Anakim : 7/2/2020 8:22 pm : link
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but the NY Giants (football team) are named after the NY Giants (baseball team - now the SF Giants).

That's why the old school guys would still sometimes call them the "New York Football Giants" - for a period of time (in like the 30's or 40's) that was literally their nickname.






I realize, but the San Francisco Giants are not the New York Baseball Giants. It's like when the Whalers turned into the Hurricanes. Birth of a new legacy.



Perhaps a new legacy, but the name persevered. It's like the St. Louis to Arizona Cardinals or Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta Braves. Unlike the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens or Quebec Nordiques to Colorado Avalanche - those are resets to me.

but I'll let you rationalize it how you want, lol



I say once you relocate, a new legacy is born :D




So, NY to NJ doesn't count as relocating for you?


They kept the New York name, so I don't consider it relocating :)
I would really be interested to learn what  
joeinpa : 7/2/2020 9:19 pm : link
The majority of Native Americans feel about all these names, Braves, Chiefs, Warriors, Redskins, etc.

Not really relevant what any of us think.
RE: the problem with  
Matt M. : 7/2/2020 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14928011 Platos said:
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comparing caricatures to sambos is that black people don't look like sambo characters. thats just racist white people shit.

to me the term Indian as a team name is worse than the logo(maybe have the logo in red doesn't help).

but the redskins logo doesn't seem offensive. the name sure as hell does. the question is would people find "the washington Tribes" or "Tribesman" offensive too in this climate where everything is offensive.
Now they are Jewish?
RE: maybe  
Matt M. : 7/2/2020 9:54 pm : link
In comment 14928027 Platos said:
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the ForeSkins but that might be offensive to the Jewish folks.
What would we care? We get rid of that useless flap.
RE: Enough of this liberal bullshit!  
Matt M. : 7/2/2020 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14928048 Tark10 said:
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
The Texas Rangers have come under fire for the racist history of the namesakes.
RE: RE: Enough of this liberal bullshit!  
Matt M. : 7/2/2020 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14928145 UConn4523 said:
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!



Completely untrue. I actually think the exact opposite - when the “snowflakes” push back the accusers typically can’t handle it. Fascinating character study, I experience it a lot with some friends of mine.
It is amazing and fun to see how out of sorts some people get when called out on something by so called "snowflakes." Snowflakes have no right to be offended but something, butnthey have every right to blow a gasket over it.
RE: I would really be interested to learn what  
FearTheHippo : 7/2/2020 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14928193 joeinpa said:
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The majority of Native Americans feel about all these names, Braves, Chiefs, Warriors, Redskins, etc.

Not really relevant what any of us think.


Have the Golden State Warriors ever made any reference to Native Americans? As far back as I can remember (circa 1994) their logo was a friggin miscolored bridge.

The word "warrior" itself has no explicit connection to Native Americans.
RE: RE: I would really be interested to learn what  
Mad Mike : 7/2/2020 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14928212 FearTheHippo said:
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Have the Golden State Warriors ever made any reference to Native Americans? As far back as I can remember (circa 1994) their logo was a friggin miscolored bridge.

Seems unlikely their logo was the Bay Bridge when they played in Philadelphia. I wonder if the internet keeps track of these things.
Nike has pulled Washington merch from their website  
j_rud : 7/2/2020 10:32 pm : link
And I dont see Snyder budging. You can expect protests outside FedEx if there is football in the fall. Regardless of how you feel about the name I think we can agree that'll be fun.
RE: RE: RE: I would really be interested to learn what  
FearTheHippo : 7/2/2020 10:47 pm : link
In comment 14928213 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 14928212 FearTheHippo said:


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Have the Golden State Warriors ever made any reference to Native Americans? As far back as I can remember (circa 1994) their logo was a friggin miscolored bridge.



Seems unlikely their logo was the Bay Bridge when they played in Philadelphia. I wonder if the internet keeps track of these things.


Thanks Mike, gotta love that '51 logo! Also, way to step on a decent joke about the Warriors taking an image of one of the most famous bridges in America and rendering it in the wrong color.

By the way, you sent me down an internet rabbit hole vis-a-vis which bridge is actually in the logo. Seems it used to be the Golden Gate Bridge, but was changed to the Bay Bridge during their last refresh.
The snowflakes ....  
Tark10 : 7/3/2020 9:14 am : link
Are offended by everything. Tough shit!. By the way, NYC is so screwed up right now even Snake Plissken couldn't save it!
Tark  
XBRONX : 7/3/2020 9:26 am : link
They should rename the team after you.The white aholes.
RE: The snowflakes ....  
UConn4523 : 7/3/2020 9:27 am : link
In comment 14928283 Tark10 said:
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Are offended by everything. Tough shit!. By the way, NYC is so screwed up right now even Snake Plissken couldn't save it!


Only 1 guy on this thread seems bothered and/or offended, the irony
RE: The snowflakes ....  
christian : 7/3/2020 9:29 am : link
In comment 14928283 Tark10 said:
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Are offended by everything. Tough shit!. By the way, NYC is so screwed up right now even Snake Plissken couldn't save it!


Would you use the term “redskin” in the company of an American Indian?
RE: Enough of this liberal bullshit!  
Joey in VA : 7/3/2020 9:50 am : link
In comment 14928048 Tark10 said:
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!
Plenty of people care, you just don't, big big difference. Of those you mentioned, Indians is only offensive because Columbus didn't land in fucking India like he thought he did.
RE: RE: Enough of this liberal bullshit!  
Bill L : 7/3/2020 10:04 am : link
In comment 14928293 Joey in VA said:
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Nobody bitches except snowflakes and liberals. Who cares. Next it will be the Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Rangers, and God knows what else! If the flakes don't like the name, don't watch the game!

Plenty of people care, you just don't, big big difference. Of those you mentioned, Indians is only offensive because Columbus didn't land in fucking India like he thought he did.


Nothing to do with those specific names, but I think the whole idea of names is silly. I really do prefer giving the team sponsor names (akin to field name rights) but, failing that, there’s nothing at all wrong with FC Washington, etc.
I"m an Indian  
BigBlueCane : 7/3/2020 10:22 am : link
and I'm not offended in the least by the term "Redskin".

I am offended that the league has decided to embrace their own demise with recent announcements.
Im a NY FC fan  
Sneakers O'toole : 7/3/2020 10:28 am : link
Yeah.............
I recall when this subject came up before  
MadPlaid : 7/3/2020 10:39 am : link
that GoTerps made the argument that nothing will change until money gets involved. He indicated until the protest about the name begins to meaningfully affect income, the team and the NFL won’t change the name. Seems to me that’s what is going on right now and GoTerps knew what he was talking about. I think this tactic where the sponsors are demanding the name change will make something happen.

What’s the phrase? Go for the money?
did you know that contrary to popular opinion  
aquidneck : 7/3/2020 10:50 am : link
The original Cleveland Browns were not named after coach Paul Brown, but instead after boxer Joe Lewis, then famously known as the Brown Bomber?

The Browns were originally the Brown Bombers.

As least that what it says on the internet.
Washington just issued  
RicFlair : 7/3/2020 11:05 am : link
A press release stating they are having an internal review on the name. The nfl insider dudes seem to think redskisn name is on the way out.



Good.
I dont give a fuck  
Paulie Walnuts : 7/3/2020 11:51 am : link
just make it all stop
RE: I  
Paulie Walnuts : 7/3/2020 11:51 am : link
In comment 14928304 BigBlueCane said:
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and I'm not offended in the least by the term "Redskin".

I am offended that the league has decided to embrace their own demise with recent announcements.
100%
The Trademark thing is confusing  
JohnF : 7/3/2020 12:19 pm : link
Ok, I took a look...Here's the original article that mentions Snyder trademarking the name for an Arena Team in Washington (a white and gold arrow with feathers logo!!)that never came to be (from 2005): Warriors, Come In to Play!

Apparently, there's been some infighting; with Snyder not using the trademark, some squatters have tried to snap it up (see this article from 2015, Trademark squatter banking on different nicknames in hopes of Redskins name change and this one from 2012 Could the Washington Redskins become the Washington Warriors?).

However, I took a look at the current trademark status for "Washington Warriors", which says "DEAD/APPLICATION/Refused/Dismissed or Invalidated;This trademark application was refused, dismissed, or invalidated by the Office and this application is no longer active."

This may be a THIRD party application that was refused, as when you open up the "Current Owner" tab, you see that the current owner is Washington Football, Inc.

Now, I'm not sure how Snyder kept the trademark, as I thought there was a limitation on how long you can keep a trademark without using it (though Snyder has a lot of political connections with influence).

Sorry, forgot the link to the trademark  
JohnF : 7/3/2020 12:24 pm : link
United States Patent and Trademark Office Trademark Status & Document Retrieval
RE: I recall when this subject came up before  
UConn4523 : 7/3/2020 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14928311 MadPlaid said:
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that GoTerps made the argument that nothing will change until money gets involved. He indicated until the protest about the name begins to meaningfully affect income, the team and the NFL won’t change the name. Seems to me that’s what is going on right now and GoTerps knew what he was talking about. I think this tactic where the sponsors are demanding the name change will make something happen.

What’s the phrase? Go for the money?


This is not a GoTerps revelation. This is how the NFL has always operated, they won’t change until either money gets tight or they see an opportunity to profit.

Just look at the anthem they want to do. A year ago they were fining players for kneeling and now they all of a sudden changed to embrace it? No shot, it’s 100% opportunistic and always has been.
If I’m Snyder, I’m keeping it simple..  
Sean : 7/3/2020 12:31 pm : link
Keep the same branding with the following changes:

-Drop the “skins” and just go by Washington Reds
-Keep the same logo, but using an R instead

just change the name to the braves  
GiantsFan84 : 7/3/2020 12:58 pm : link
it's a term (not derogatory) for native american warriors. they can even keep their logo and colors.
...  
christian : 7/3/2020 1:10 pm : link
The public will vote with their dollars as they always do.

Fabulous feature of a free market, capitalist economy.
Why doesn’t the NFL (or other interested entities) just buy him off  
Bill L : 7/3/2020 1:25 pm : link
Offer a billion dollars or so for naming rights.
Snyder should move the team  
fanatic II : 7/3/2020 1:35 pm : link
The NFL wants international teams.

Snyder should volunteer to move the team to Mexico City. Jacksonville will go to London. Goodell will be all over that. It would happen.

Then Snyder gets his revenge at DC by taking away their team.
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GiantEgo : 7/3/2020 1:37 pm : link
There are some good ideas here about keeping the logo and changing the name. I'm guessing they will go with something military themed. The NFL loves to incorporate jingoistic military displays into their marketing it's catnip to them.

Washington Generals/Soldiers/Troops/Defenders.

How can you not support the Troops!
LOL  
JohnF : 7/3/2020 1:38 pm : link
"Washington Generals" is trending on Twitter!

Dan, do it! I want this to be their logo...
RE: LOL  
Bill L : 7/3/2020 1:42 pm : link
In comment 14928402 JohnF said:
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"Washington Generals" is trending on Twitter!

Dan, do it! I want this to be their logo...

Aren’t they the team that always gets pummeled by the Globetrotters?
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JohnF : 7/3/2020 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14928403 Bill L said:
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"Washington Generals" is trending on Twitter!

Dan, do it! I want this to be their logo...



Aren’t they the team that always gets pummeled by the Globetrotters?


Yes! That makes it perfect!
I'm going with Washington Generals as well....  
SGMen : 7/3/2020 1:48 pm : link
First, I'm a retired Army Combat Veteran and find this name apropos for DC.

I hate the Eagles, Cowboys and Generals now. LOL.

The more I think about this  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2020 1:51 pm : link
they should probably get rid of the "Washington" part now too. People who find Washington offensive is picking up steam these days.

they should call them themselves something like the Capital City Capitals or something so utterly innocuous no one can ever complain.

And for the record Capital City Capitals is from the Simpsons (Dancin' Homer episode), so if that's the way they go, once again the Simpsons will be prophetic.

Washington Redtails  
GiantEgo : 7/3/2020 2:02 pm : link
This one is getting a following on twitter it ticks a lot of boxes.

Redtails - ( New Window )
RE: Washington Redtails  
Sean : 7/3/2020 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14928415 GiantEgo said:
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This one is getting a following on twitter it ticks a lot of boxes. Redtails - ( New Window )


I don’t think you need to change the logo that much, just replace it with an R and call it a day.
RE: RE: maybe  
Platos : 7/3/2020 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14928201 Matt M. said:
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the ForeSkins but that might be offensive to the Jewish folks.

What would we care? We get rid of that useless flap.


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