The virus has been shown to negatively affect (or kill) folks who are typically older, or with chronic or immunocompromised health conditions.
An NFL player, being the stallions that they are, most likely do not fall into this category. The high performance athletes we know of who have gotten the virus appear to be fine afterwards.
Now, what if the NFL decided to allow players to voluntarily infect themselves by exposing themselves to other players who have the virus so that teams can build the proper immunity? This would head off the very likely chance of Covid appearing during the worse times this season, and systematically picking off players to the point teams cannot even be fielded and the fear factor forces the season to be cancelled.
I can see Belichick already incorporating this approach, sly fox that he is, always one step ahead. So when teams’ players start dropping like flies during the season the Pats will have the strongest team, both immunologically and otherwise. Little tongue in cheek on BB here, but why can I see him doing this? It would remove unpredictability and give them an edge. Two things he always looks for. But for the league it would remove the unpredictability too if they can get this done in the next month, or prior to the start of the season.
Crazy or not so crazy? I have a hard time seeing the NFL season happening if a handful to 1/4 of every roster is infected at any given time. If there is no immunity, and the spread is organically feathered due to quarantining, you can place bets now that this is what’s going to happen and the NFL season will either not start or not finish. Could self-infliction be a solution to the problem?
Extreme, yes. Crazy? What say you?
Not proven, but would you say it a very good chance it gives immunity depending on what we know about similar viruses? Curious your opinion on this.
He talked about how no one knows the long term impact of this disease. Does it cause chronic organ damage we don't yet understand? Could it possible take years off your life? No one can say this with 100% certainty, so best not to get it.
Pro athletes, who depend on their bodies to be finely tuned, shouldn't purposefully get this since we don't know the long term impact it could have on their health. Same goes for everyone.
There's also a large spectrum of symptoms and while most may be mild, some can be quite severe even if they fall short of death. There could also be a long term impact on your organs particularly the lungs for some.
And like BB'56 said, antibodies may not even confer immunity and even if they do, we have no idea how long they last. Could be setting the team up for a team-wide infection come Dec!
Does it lessen the effect - also unknown. What happens if a couple players get deathly ill? Young have died from it.
BB'56 would know better than most of us here at BBI. But I think this baby has even the best MDs and Scientists scratching their heads.
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NFL is entertainment. It's important enough to expose people to unknown diseases.
Well, we've always known you as a all-for-me and none-for-you kind of guy, Chris! 😉
Although there is a sweet spot of lethality for viruses, covid may just have hit that.
Although there is a sweet spot of lethality for viruses, covid may just have hit that.
Or vice versa. Often increased passage leads to a weakening.
Regardless, I don't think this virus is that great of a mutating virus.
I would also pose a question of what happens if Saquon and or Daniel Jones gets sick and has some sort of lung damage and can’t get back to their peak athletic form? Does anyone here want to see that happen? Not saying it will, but it’s definitely one of the many scenarios that could happen.
But it does act like a virus...
Absolutely no doctor would intentionally infect a patient with the covid virus or any other disease.
Absolutely no doctor would intentionally infect a patient with the covid virus or any other disease.
In the US divide the number of deaths by numer of infected and you get a mortality rate of .047. The world death rate is consistent with US at .048.
That means that 99.953% of those infected survive the virus. Take out those with compromised immunities, and preexposed conditions, and the death rate is even lower.
The problem with the virus is the fear of the virus. If you have a good immune system and no preexisting conditions there should be no fear of getting it.
Like a cold or the flu, you get it, you get over it, you continue life till you get another cold or the flu again.
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Absolutely no doctor would intentionally infect a patient with the covid virus or any other disease.
In the US divide the number of deaths by numer of infected and you get a mortality rate of .047. The world death rate is consistent with US at .048.
That means that 99.953% of those infected survive the virus. Take out those with compromised immunities, and preexposed conditions, and the death rate is even lower.
The problem with the virus is the fear of the virus. If you have a good immune system and no preexisting conditions there should be no fear of getting it.
Like a cold or the flu, you get it, you get over it, you continue life till you get another cold or the flu again.
I know Cowboy fans suck at math, but .047 = 4.7%
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were all old or infirm.
Absolutely no doctor would intentionally infect a patient with the covid virus or any other disease.
In the US divide the number of deaths by numer of infected and you get a mortality rate of .047. The world death rate is consistent with US at .048.
That means that 99.953% of those infected survive the virus. Take out those with compromised immunities, and preexposed conditions, and the death rate is even lower.
The problem with the virus is the fear of the virus. If you have a good immune system and no preexisting conditions there should be no fear of getting it.
Like a cold or the flu, you get it, you get over it, you continue life till you get another cold or the flu again.
I know Cowboy fans suck at math, but .047 = 4.7%
Thanks for the help.
But the point still stands.
Next question
Although there is a sweet spot of lethality for viruses, covid may just have hit that.
The good news is that more lethal mutations generally die out faster. If a virus is highly effective in killing its hosts, mathematically, across a population its hosts will infect fewer people and eventually cause the virus to die out.
Typically, it is the less-lethal mutations that persist and infect larger populations because their hosts survive and, therefore, have greater opportunities to transmit disease.
It is postulated that the European strain, for instance, that impacted Italy, Spain, UK, Belgium, etc., and came to New York in the early spring, was a more lethal mutation than the Chinese strain which was first observed on the West Coast. There is significant evidence that the two strains are different, but their behavior and mechanism of infection isn't totally understood yet, as we are still pretty early in the game from the perspective of virology and infectious disease research.
Oh yeah, before I forget, this thread is asinine.
And yes, I realize Clemson is ACC. But it's out in SEC land.
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were all old or infirm.
Absolutely no doctor would intentionally infect a patient with the covid virus or any other disease.
In the US divide the number of deaths by numer of infected and you get a mortality rate of .047. The world death rate is consistent with US at .048.
That means that 99.953% of those infected survive the virus. Take out those with compromised immunities, and preexposed conditions, and the death rate is even lower.
The problem with the virus is the fear of the virus. If you have a good immune system and no preexisting conditions there should be no fear of getting it.
Like a cold or the flu, you get it, you get over it, you continue life till you get another cold or the flu again.
I know Cowboy fans suck at math, but .047 = 4.7%
Thanks for the help.
But the point still stands.
We know the long-term consequences of catching the flu or a head cold. Please detail WHY the long-term impacts of COVID-19, as a disease that affects numerous pathways, will have the same long-term profile as these aforementioned?
Sometimes Cowboys fans should just shut the fuck up...
Brilliant!
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In comment 14927990 Marty in Albany said:
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were all old or infirm.
Absolutely no doctor would intentionally infect a patient with the covid virus or any other disease.
In the US divide the number of deaths by numer of infected and you get a mortality rate of .047. The world death rate is consistent with US at .048.
That means that 99.953% of those infected survive the virus. Take out those with compromised immunities, and preexposed conditions, and the death rate is even lower.
The problem with the virus is the fear of the virus. If you have a good immune system and no preexisting conditions there should be no fear of getting it.
Like a cold or the flu, you get it, you get over it, you continue life till you get another cold or the flu again.
I know Cowboy fans suck at math, but .047 = 4.7%
Thanks for the help.
But the point still stands.
How does the point still stand? Your survival rate dropped from 99.95% to 95.3%
Now I don’t think the death rate is 4-5% but it could be 1-2% which is still pretty scary.
Students at Alabama are throwing “covid parties”.
To quote dodgeball “That’s a bold strategy cotton, let’s see if it works out for them”
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Ok ... I’m right behind you.
Precisely why I thought to raise the question. Boomer Esiason brought up this topic on his show recently too.
Of course were this to happen it would need to be voluntary and/or there would need to be a sky diving type waiver in place. It likely couldn't be directed by teams / NFL, but it would have to be seen as the player's choice.
Will be interesting to see what comes of the "on the down low" self-infecting occurring on various college campuses throughout the US.