The virus has been shown to negatively affect (or kill) folks who are typically older, or with chronic or immunocompromised health conditions.
An NFL player, being the stallions that they are, most likely do not fall into this category. The high performance athletes we know of who have gotten the virus appear to be fine afterwards.
Now, what if the NFL decided to allow players to voluntarily infect themselves by exposing themselves to other players who have the virus so that teams can build the proper immunity? This would head off the very likely chance of Covid appearing during the worse times this season, and systematically picking off players to the point teams cannot even be fielded and the fear factor forces the season to be cancelled.
I can see Belichick already incorporating this approach, sly fox that he is, always one step ahead. So when teams’ players start dropping like flies during the season the Pats will have the strongest team, both immunologically and otherwise. Little tongue in cheek on BB here, but why can I see him doing this? It would remove unpredictability and give them an edge. Two things he always looks for. But for the league it would remove the unpredictability too if they can get this done in the next month, or prior to the start of the season.
Crazy or not so crazy? I have a hard time seeing the NFL season happening if a handful to 1/4 of every roster is infected at any given time. If there is no immunity, and the spread is organically feathered due to quarantining, you can place bets now that this is what’s going to happen and the NFL season will either not start or not finish. Could self-infliction be a solution to the problem?
Extreme, yes. Crazy? What say you?
This is the scary part. I wonder if the altitude up in Denver makes it even worse to recover from.
There's a ton of information out there about this stuff. I'm often perplexed at how many people look at that information and kind of go "Yeah, but..." I know the virus is new, and we are still learning how it spreads and how it affects people. I know they initially said masks didn't help, and that asymptomatic people weren't contagious. I know those things were wrong. But I'm thinking that the information is getting better and more complete, there are more known knowns and known unknowns, and yet there's a lot of wishful/magical thinking going on. We want sports back, so we want this kind of thing to work. Even though everything we seem to know says that it's going to backfire.
It is amazing how people can be isolated by this infection for months, yet never get around to readIng a single article about what it is and what it does.
Statistically most will be fine but we still can’t clearly define risks of doing poorly .
Does it lessen the effect - also unknown. What happens if a couple players get deathly ill? Young have died from it.
BB'56 would know better than most of us here at BBI. But I think this baby has even the best MDs and Scientists scratching their heads.
test is only 70% accurate. there is a considerably higher likelihood that the first positive test was a false positive than being able to get it a second time.
my wife works directly with respiratory illness and the sciences behind it. there is also no link to covid causing issues that weren't already there. So if a 55 year old had heart issues after, the issues where there just not as severe and in some cases asymptomatic
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prevent recurrence. People have gotten it twice. Even the flu comes back and can be caught again - that is why you get a flu shot every year and it may contain anti-bodies that were in the previous year's vaccine.
Does it lessen the effect - also unknown. What happens if a couple players get deathly ill? Young have died from it.
BB'56 would know better than most of us here at BBI. But I think this baby has even the best MDs and Scientists scratching their heads.
test is only 70% accurate. there is a considerably higher likelihood that the first positive test was a false positive than being able to get it a second time.
my wife works directly with respiratory illness and the sciences behind it. there is also no link to covid causing issues that weren't already there. So if a 55 year old had heart issues after, the issues where there just not as severe and in some cases asymptomatic
That’s not true. There’s plenty of shit antibody tests (and maybe a couple of molecular tests). Ut there’s also some very good ones. You can check the FDA website and actually see the performance characteristics. And the false positive rate and false negative rate for the approved tests are not even close to 30%.
And, with all due respect to your wife, there are plenty of secondary effects caused by CoV-2 which are new and. Or just exacerbating pre-existing conditions. A lot of the clotting issues are new to the patient, for example. Comorbidities for sure lead to more severity of disease but some of the stuff definitely wasn’t there before infection.
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prevent recurrence. People have gotten it twice. Even the flu comes back and can be caught again - that is why you get a flu shot every year and it may contain anti-bodies that were in the previous year's vaccine.
Does it lessen the effect - also unknown. What happens if a couple players get deathly ill? Young have died from it.
BB'56 would know better than most of us here at BBI. But I think this baby has even the best MDs and Scientists scratching their heads.
test is only 70% accurate. there is a considerably higher likelihood that the first positive test was a false positive than being able to get it a second time.
my wife works directly with respiratory illness and the sciences behind it. there is also no link to covid causing issues that weren't already there. So if a 55 year old had heart issues after, the issues where there just not as severe and in some cases asymptomatic
That’s not true. There’s plenty of shit antibody tests (and maybe a couple of molecular tests). Ut there’s also some very good ones. You can check the FDA website and actually see the performance characteristics. And the false positive rate and false negative rate for the approved tests are not even close to 30%.
And, with all due respect to your wife, there are plenty of secondary effects caused by CoV-2 which are new and. Or just exacerbating pre-existing conditions. A lot of the clotting issues are new to the patient, for example. Comorbidities for sure lead to more severity of disease but some of the stuff definitely wasn’t there before infection.
I'll let the researchers at yale who have dedicated their lives work to these things know their wrong and the guy in the internet knows better.
Also its extremely naive to think the FDA or any other government funded agency has been fully transparent
Several babies who are infected with CoV-2 have been shown to have a condition called Kawasaki Disease, with basically inflamed blood vessels. It’s related to the clotting disorders seen in Covid adults. So, when did the infants first come down with heart disease for the virus infection to exacerbate?
Second point, is wrt the FDA, it would seem that them putting the data on test performance on a public website would be *more* transparent, rather than less. You don’t think?
Sure, totally the same thing. Great point.
This time I'm not going to delete.
👏👏👏👏. Was scrolling waiting to see this. People tend to leave out the longterm effects.
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would not watch a sport which would give young men permanent physical damage in their later years and possibly shorten their lives.
Sure, totally the same thing. Great point.
Al is preoccupied with breadsticks and endless salad bowls.
^^^^ This!
More importantly, no one really knows anything about this virus' long term life-cycle. Who is to say it is not like Herpes? Which can hide out in your spinal fluid and then reemerge decades latter causing flare ups for the rest of your life?
Not likely, but would you volunteer for a lifetime of potential sickness in the prime of your youth, just for a few hundred thousand dollars? With very little guarantees?
wait for a vaccine.
wait for a vaccine.
Not agreeing with the OP as self infecting seems insane, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up in terms of a vaccine. RNA viruses aren’t complicated as they are constantly mutating. Hence the reason we still have the common cold after eons (which is also a form of coronavirus). Fauci even said the effectiveness rate would be no higher than 70%, which seems very inflated as the flu shot effectiveness numbers always are as well. It’s better than nothing, but it’s not going to be that effective. Especially being rushed out the door with insufficient testing.
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wait for a vaccine.
Not agreeing with the OP as self infecting seems insane, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up in terms of a vaccine. RNA viruses aren’t complicated as they are constantly mutating. Hence the reason we still have the common cold after eons (which is also a form of coronavirus). Fauci even said the effectiveness rate would be no higher than 70%, which seems very inflated as the flu shot effectiveness numbers always are as well. It’s better than nothing, but it’s not going to be that effective. Especially being rushed out the door with insufficient testing.
I don’t believe that this virus (or the common cold coronaviruses) are highly mutating. Flu is very unique in this specific fashion and not like coronaviruses at all.
We may see everybody with gloves and shields.
My personal belief is that the testing we are seeing is the result of the normal Corona Virus that has been around forever. People that have it are now more likely to get tested for COVID and get a positive but I believe many just have the normal low level risk virus that is like the common cold. I still dont wish that on anyone and wouldnt recommend exposing yourself to it. No one knows the lasting effect yet.
The very invasive strain is still around and there is no way to distinguish who has what. Its best to follow the rules for now until more info is avalable.
My personal belief is that the testing we are seeing is the result of the normal Corona Virus that has been around forever. People that have it are now more likely to get tested for COVID and get a positive but I believe many just have the normal low level risk virus that is like the common cold. I still dont wish that on anyone and wouldnt recommend exposing yourself to it. No one knows the lasting effect yet.
The very invasive strain is still around and there is no way to distinguish who has what. Its best to follow the rules for now until more info is avalable.
If they are doing a molecular test (nasal swab or saliva) then there is virtually no chance that they are mistaking the common coronaviruses for CoV-2. If they are doing an antibody test then, depending on which test is being used (specifically, if it's not a test done in a real laboratory), then there is some risk of a positive being due to common coronaviruses but it's fairly low and certainly not most people or most results.