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Giants announce updates to football operations staff

Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/2/2020 4:08 pm
FYI...
Giants announce updates to football operations staff - ( New Window )
Big news  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/2/2020 5:02 pm : link
here is Hannah Burnett becomes the first full-time female scout in team history.

Also, bit of an odd path for Courtney Kennedy.
I also  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/2/2020 5:30 pm : link
broke down the moves here...


New York Giants Announce Changes to Operations and Coaching Staff - ( New Window )
Well, that was interesting  
Arkbach : 7/2/2020 5:33 pm : link
These new people will take time to mature in their roles before being fully effective so please be patient. Something to watch over time.
anyone else find it somewhat odd  
Giantsfan79 : 7/2/2020 6:39 pm : link
the Giants are hiring new scouts before the NCAA makes an announcement on having a season or not?
RE: anyone else find it somewhat odd  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/2/2020 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14928101 Giantsfan79 said:
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the Giants are hiring new scouts before the NCAA makes an announcement on having a season or not?


No, they need to plan as if everything is proceeding. Plus two of the scouts were already with the organization.
RE: anyone else find it somewhat odd  
robbieballs2003 : 7/2/2020 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14928101 Giantsfan79 said:
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the Giants are hiring new scouts before the NCAA makes an announcement on having a season or not?


Why is that weird? Even if the NCAA doesn't have a season why would we be hesitant to do this?
I guess my argument would be  
Giantsfan79 : 7/3/2020 7:10 am : link
the NFL is a business and in theory any of our companies could keep us employment under the assumption things will be business as usual this fall. But the Giants are looking at a significant loss of revenue with no fans and that seems like an odd time to take on payroll liability from a business perspective.

Plus what exactly would a scout do this fall if there are no prospects playing to scout. At some point might there not be massive layoffs in scouting departments?

Maybe there was a bidding war for her services but it has seemed odd to me the Giants have made several back-end hires to the team recently compared to most other businesses that would be cutting back given the expected loss of future revenue. and I wonder how long the Giants organization can buck the trend!
Nick Williams  
Mike in NY : 7/3/2020 7:49 am : link
Is the son of former Michigan State Head Coach Bobby Williams
RE: I guess my argument would be  
Joey in VA : 7/3/2020 9:51 am : link
In comment 14928246 Giantsfan79 said:
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the NFL is a business and in theory any of our companies could keep us employment under the assumption things will be business as usual this fall. But the Giants are looking at a significant loss of revenue with no fans and that seems like an odd time to take on payroll liability from a business perspective.

Plus what exactly would a scout do this fall if there are no prospects playing to scout. At some point might there not be massive layoffs in scouting departments?

Maybe there was a bidding war for her services but it has seemed odd to me the Giants have made several back-end hires to the team recently compared to most other businesses that would be cutting back given the expected loss of future revenue. and I wonder how long the Giants organization can buck the trend!
Payroll liability? This has been a family run team since 1925, you think they are hurting for money?
Imagine, they even talk about all the date they have, and how to best  
yatqb : 7/3/2020 11:07 am : link
make use of it. Sounds like analytics to me, but what do I know?
RE: Imagine, they even talk about all the date they have, and how to best  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/3/2020 11:32 am : link
In comment 14928321 yatqb said:
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make use of it. Sounds like analytics to me, but what do I know?


That was my impression, but like you, I don't know.

On the surface, it sounds like they are beefing up data collection and analysis.
This is really bad  
Bill2 : 7/3/2020 11:57 am : link
They are investing in the team in hopes of getting better.




And some fans find a way to think thats a negative
Scouts may not see live action this year  
Buzzard64 : 7/3/2020 12:09 pm : link
That doesn't mean that they still won't be doing background checks and film work based on last years play.
RE: I also  
ATL_Giants : 7/3/2020 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14928077 Eric from BBI said:
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broke down the moves here...
New York Giants Announce Changes to Operations and Coaching Staff - ( New Window )

thanks Eric, I didn't want to read all that.
RE: I guess my argument would be  
robbieballs2003 : 7/3/2020 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14928246 Giantsfan79 said:
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the NFL is a business and in theory any of our companies could keep us employment under the assumption things will be business as usual this fall. But the Giants are looking at a significant loss of revenue with no fans and that seems like an odd time to take on payroll liability from a business perspective.

Plus what exactly would a scout do this fall if there are no prospects playing to scout. At some point might there not be massive layoffs in scouting departments?

Maybe there was a bidding war for her services but it has seemed odd to me the Giants have made several back-end hires to the team recently compared to most other businesses that would be cutting back given the expected loss of future revenue. and I wonder how long the Giants organization can buck the trend!


So, you think there won't be a draft next year? There is plenty of work to do on prospects whether there is a college season or not. Oh, lets not forger that teams should also be scouting their own team with respect to players and tendencies. What about other teams? You have to scout other players on other NFL teams. Not sure why you think a scout doesn't have a job to do. In fact, their jobs will be more difficult this year with everything. If there is a college season then how do they travel around? If there isn't a season these scouts will have to dig deeper than ever before.
I think Scouting will be more important than ever this year  
ron mexico : 7/4/2020 9:45 am : link
Both pro and NCAA scouting. All these changes will make their job very hard and that is usually when the cream rises to the top.
Eric thanks for posting this.  
TMS : 7/6/2020 1:22 pm : link
Very interesting and in depth stuff. Never thought I would see the Giants get this innovative. Think most of it comes from Judge who seems like a breath of fresh air for this team. DG, Mara and Tisch are also going along it appears.
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