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NFLPA board recommends cancellation of preseason

montanagiant : 7/3/2020 6:37 pm
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As opposed to only a two-game preseason, the NFLPA board of representatives unanimously voted to recommend that the league scrap the remaining two games altogether, per Dan Graziano of ESPN, and laid forth a proposal that would see the league go directly from training camp into the regular season slate of games in September.

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this is going to be a crazy year  
Del Shofner : 7/3/2020 6:49 pm : link
in NFL history, that much seems clear.
This season is  
redwhiteandbigblue : 7/3/2020 7:03 pm : link
quickly deteriorating. I am not judging the motives but what kind of product will we see with no preseason games? The quality of play will surely suffer.
as much as I hate to say it  
mpinmaine : 7/3/2020 7:09 pm : link
I doubt they play and that sucks
They better add more practice time then  
Jay on the Island : 7/3/2020 7:17 pm : link
If they don’t this season will be a real mess with the lack of offseason activities and no preseason.

How are rookies expected to prepare?
I posted this on the thread where the NFL knocked it down to 2.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/3/2020 7:31 pm : link
Garafolo was the first to report it. Agreed, crazy year.
RE: as much as I hate to say it  
djm : 7/3/2020 7:33 pm : link
In comment 14928505 mpinmaine said:
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I doubt they play and that sucks


I’ll believe any of the big four play when I see it. The only reason I have even a shred of hope is the EPL is playing now so maybe sports can play here.
As long as they don't get paid....  
nzyme : 7/3/2020 7:38 pm : link
I don't have any problem with it. The minute you start seeing players demanding pay without showing up is where I call bullshit.
Assuming that we wont have a vaccine  
NewBlue : 7/3/2020 7:47 pm : link
When will anything be "Safe"?
2021?
Then of course we have all read about the new Pig virus that is on it's way from China.

No movies
No sports
No concerts
No Travel
No theater

Where is leisure time spent?
Athletes and performers can do what they want for their safety, but carrers are being jeopardized, yeah I know what about someones life......when does this end with no vaccine?


Scrap the whole season  
Beef Wellington : 7/3/2020 7:47 pm : link
until all this shit runs its course. Its no longer about the game of football. Its become a clown show.
Maybe we'll see spring football  
oghwga : 7/3/2020 7:56 pm : link
Delay the start long enough and just play a full season whenever it becomes okay to do so.

Might be spring of 2022 but who knows
For awhile, I was optimistic we'd see sports  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/3/2020 7:56 pm : link
in 2020. I'm damn pessimistic now.
I’ve said this for months:  
BUgiantfan : 7/3/2020 8:02 pm : link
There can be a season but the teams need to cluster together so there’s no travel, frequent testing, everyone travels to location then quarantines for two weeks prior to reporting, and isolate throughout the season.

I don’t think they have the discipline to pull it off but I don’t see any other way they can have a season.
players have always hated the preseason  
GiantsFan84 : 7/3/2020 8:40 pm : link
i wonder how much of this is them simply trying to get what they want
RE: players have always hated the preseason  
Tom in NY : 7/3/2020 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14928543 GiantsFan84 said:
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i wonder how much of this is them simply trying to get what they want


You have this summed up correctly. They signed a CBA that calls for 17 regular season games and 3 preseason games, and now they see a chance to not play the preseason. They have limited practice time, cancelled OTAs, and minicamps....so how they believe they'd be ready to play week 1 is beyond me.
Assuming there is a season but  
3putt : 7/3/2020 9:06 pm : link
no preseason games. Won't this effect cap number next year.
RE: Maybe we'll see spring football  
CGiants07 : 7/3/2020 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14928528 oghwga said:
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Delay the start long enough and just play a full season whenever it becomes okay to do so.

Might be spring of 2022 but who knows

no guarantees in spring that it will be any safer as coronaviruis are tricky to get vaccinated for
RE: Scrap the whole season  
CGiants07 : 7/3/2020 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14928525 Beef Wellington said:
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until all this shit runs its course. Its no longer about the game of football. Its become a clown show.

would you say that if it was 3 or 4 years before enough people got it to create herd immunity? At some point we just have accept that there will be cases and take as many precautions as possible and accept the consequences
0% chance there’s anything resembling a normal season  
Oscar : 7/3/2020 9:24 pm : link
I don’t know what we’re going to get, if I had to bet now it would be empty stadiums, no preseason, season canceled in late October/ early Nov.

There's no guarantee there will be a vaccine or it will even work  
moespree : 7/3/2020 9:26 pm : link
There's also now a question whether herd immunity can even be achieved with this. Some of the results of studies released last week calls that into question, with some thinking you may be able to catch this a 2nd time after a certain period of time passes. Others say still to be determined. At this point there's not really a guarantee of anything with this as they're still learning about it.

I don't know what the answer is, but it's obvious somebody has to figure something out as society cannot function with starts and stops.
RE: There's no guarantee there will be a vaccine or it will even work  
SGMen : 7/3/2020 9:56 pm : link
In comment 14928556 moespree said:
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There's also now a question whether herd immunity can even be achieved with this. Some of the results of studies released last week calls that into question, with some thinking you may be able to catch this a 2nd time after a certain period of time passes. Others say still to be determined. At this point there's not really a guarantee of anything with this as they're still learning about it.

I don't know what the answer is, but it's obvious somebody has to figure something out as society cannot function with starts and stops.
I'll add that if you have had CV19, and yes you can probably catch it again, you will likely be able to fight it off easier because you will have some level of immunity.
My gut tells me that over the next few weeks with more and more data from around the world coming into play, we will know more and more.
Personally, I'm in my early 50's and generally healthy with O+ blood type. I also eat an organic lifestyle and have solid gut microbiome. If I got CV19 I'm guessing it would be fairly mild for me. So if I got it I would not care. I'm hoping as time goes on my thoughts become truth for many.
The whole season is going down the tubes  
JohnB : 7/3/2020 10:18 pm : link
That is pretty clear to see. I just don't see how they will be able to stop the virus from affecting every aspect of this game.

The only solutions are to ignore the virus and charge ahead regardless of the outcome or shut down the season. Option #2 is the one I see coming.
Shut down the season...face reality you diehard fanatics...someone/  
NYRiese : 7/3/2020 10:23 pm : link
somebody is in control and it is not the NFL.
I'll trade having a regular season for no pre-season .  
HOF19 : 7/3/2020 10:31 pm : link
Once the regular season starts I don't think people will give the pre-season any more thought .
Is there any particular reason  
BlackLight : 7/3/2020 11:02 pm : link
the whole deal (preseason, regular season, playoffs) can't just be pushed off into the late fall, concluding the season next spring?

Yes, it would result in an abbreviated offseason (or some of those things getting pushed back), but apart from that, could it be done?
Obviously, without the preseason games, the new players won't get  
Marty in Albany : 7/3/2020 11:06 pm : link
much opportunity to prove themselves and make the team. But in terms of the veteran first team players, how much playing time do they actually get during the preseason? If you are Tom Brady, you might not play at all.

Of course the lack of preseason games will suck. It will keep teams from improving over last year, but it won't cause total chaos. Covid 19 may cause chaos, but not the lack of the preseason games.
RE: Is there any particular reason  
Mad Mike : 7/4/2020 2:05 am : link
In comment 14928575 BlackLight said:
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the whole deal (preseason, regular season, playoffs) can't just be pushed off into the late fall, concluding the season next spring?

Yes, it would result in an abbreviated offseason (or some of those things getting pushed back), but apart from that, could it be done?

What would be the point of that?
RE: RE: Is there any particular reason  
BlackLight : 7/4/2020 2:50 am : link
In comment 14928597 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 14928575 BlackLight said:


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the whole deal (preseason, regular season, playoffs) can't just be pushed off into the late fall, concluding the season next spring?

Yes, it would result in an abbreviated offseason (or some of those things getting pushed back), but apart from that, could it be done?


What would be the point of that?


So we could have a full season?
RE: As long as they don't get paid....  
Big Rick in FL : 7/4/2020 4:47 am : link
In comment 14928519 nzyme said:
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I don't have any problem with it. The minute you start seeing players demanding pay without showing up is where I call bullshit.


Why the fuck would you care if they get paid or not? Coming out of your pocket?
I'm fine with no preseason  
Milton : 7/4/2020 5:03 am : link
90% of talent evaluation is based on practice and classroom and just plain getting to know each prospect on a more personal level. Preseason games offer up the occasional surprise, but the sample set is so low compared to practice reps and it's not uncommon for some prospects to look great when going up against second- and third-stringers only to be smacked in the face with reality when the regular season rolls around. That's a lot more common than discovering the next Victor Cruz.

More importantly, no preseason is just another disadvantage that teams with new coaching staffs face because those are the teams that need a preseason most. But such is life this year for Big Blue. On the plus side, no preseason means one or two less season-ending injuries before the season has even started.

The quality of play will be lower without a preseason and even more so for teams with new coaching staffs, but this was always gonna be a season of lower quality than we're used to. It's not the year to complain about the quality, it's a year to just enjoy the entertainment value. If it's the reason the Giants go 4-12 instead of 12-4, so be it. The consolation prize will be another top 5 or 10 pick come April 2021.

p.s.--The reality isn't that there will be no preseason, it's that there will be a 16-game preseason and no regular season.
Baseball finished testing players, coaches, etc.  
ZogZerg : 7/4/2020 10:11 am : link
and had a surprising LOW rate test positive.

It will be real interested to see the percentage of football players/staff that test positive.
If I read this correctly, they are  
Dave on the UWS : 7/4/2020 11:41 am : link
allowing for 8 padded practices- 8!! How the hell is Judge supposed to put a team together, make roster decisions, depth chart decisions AND get the team ready for week 1 on 8 freakin practices??? Let alone protect the players from COVID exposure! (Amy team with a new coaching staff is in the same boat$
This is stupid  
SGMen : 7/4/2020 6:18 pm : link
You need to practice for two weeks at least and have at least one pre-season game to get "bare minimum" ready in my mind. I just don't see how this could be good for anyone but veterans (from injury).
RE: RE: RE: Is there any particular reason  
Mad Mike : 7/4/2020 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14928602 BlackLight said:
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So we could have a full season?

I'm not following. Nothing has been proposed that would limit the regular season. Are you suggesting that the NFLPA is proposing eliminating the pre-season as a first step to a reduced regular season?
I'd rather they eliminated two regular season games instead.  
Since1965 : 7/4/2020 11:26 pm : link
Good performance in practice doesn't always translate to performing in games. A few players may actually perform better on game day than at practice as well. Coaches need to see how players respond in game situations and how players their fit into their system as well. I would prefer giving coaches the opportunity to evaluate players by including the two preseason games.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Is there any particular reason  
BlackLight : 7/5/2020 12:20 am : link
In comment 14928888 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 14928602 BlackLight said:


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So we could have a full season?


I'm not following. Nothing has been proposed that would limit the regular season. Are you suggesting that the NFLPA is proposing eliminating the pre-season as a first step to a reduced regular season?


The way things are trending, I'd be surprised if we didn't see a reduced regular season.
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