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NFT: Unsolved Mysteries reboot on Netflix *Spoilers

Sean : 7/6/2020 8:05 pm
I just finished the season. As someone who enjoyed the show when it was on the air, I thought this was very well done.

The episode about the family being murdered in France was the most shocking imo. All episodes were good though, hopefully these cases get resolved.
Haven’t seen the new one  
eric2425ny : 7/6/2020 8:08 pm : link
but the old show scared the crap out of me when I was a kid lol.
The Berkshire UFO story was incredible  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 7/6/2020 8:10 pm : link
And I LOVE that Robert Stack is featured in the intro.
The one that got me (spoiler info below)  
JonnyR : 7/6/2020 8:10 pm : link
Is the creep that sleeps with his dead wife’s ashes.
I remember being spooked about the CT River Valley Killer  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/6/2020 8:15 pm : link
episode that came out during it's initial run on NBC. I spent a lot of my summers growing up in NH not far from where a lot of the murders took place.
What does everyone think happened in the first episode?  
Strahan91 : 7/6/2020 8:26 pm : link
Seemed like there was more going on than the people close to him let on. My guess was suicide but a lot of pieces to it were very strange indeed.
RE: What does everyone think happened in the first episode?  
Sean : 7/6/2020 8:41 pm : link
In comment 14929605 Strahan91 said:
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Seemed like there was more going on than the people close to him let on. My guess was suicide but a lot of pieces to it were very strange indeed.


I think he had some of psychotic episode, the letter was strange.
All but the one UFO one was a murder  
Greg from LI : 7/6/2020 9:45 pm : link
It's too much like Dateline or 20/20 that way. Need to mix in some other stuff. The original show had all kinds of different stories.
There was one from the original series that scared me ...  
jnoble : 7/6/2020 9:54 pm : link
It was about a coffee table some family had that seemed to be cursed...I think it had satanic images carved into it or something... and caused bad things to happen and at the end the father destroyed it
RE: All but the one UFO one was a murder  
widmerseyebrow : 7/6/2020 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14929631 Greg from LI said:
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It's too much like Dateline or 20/20 that way. Need to mix in some other stuff. The original show had all kinds of different stories.


Yea, we were hoping to see some more of the UFO and paranormal stuff that was on when I was a kid. The one UFO story is pretty crazy.

Overall a decent effort to reboot the show.
RE: The Berkshire UFO story was incredible  
widmerseyebrow : 7/6/2020 10:09 pm : link
In comment 14929594 Bold Ruler said:
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And I LOVE that Robert Stack is featured in the intro.


With all that's been going on in the news the last year the UFO stories kind of make you think twice now.
On the last episode now. Spoilers...  
TXRabbit : 7/7/2020 3:35 am : link
I caught on during episode 3

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the players seemed like actors. The dialog was too scripted maybe? Reactions were too fluid?

One of the show's producers is Shawn Levy which rang famiilar with me, being a big sci fi nerd.

I Googled if he was involved with the Cloverfeld series or Black Mirror but nothing panned out but he is known for some shows called Stranger Things and The Arrival (/sarcasm)

Very enjoyable season. I liked it
The french one with the father  
ryanmkeane : 7/7/2020 9:21 am : link
who kills the entire family and then somehow escapes/possibly still at large was pretty unbelievable.
I read the producers  
sr267 : 7/7/2020 9:34 am : link
have already received a bunch of credible leads for the murder cases in particular. I hope it is picked up as a "regular" Netflix show. Loved the original too.
RE: RE: What does everyone think happened in the first episode?  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/7/2020 10:02 am : link
In comment 14929610 Sean said:
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Seemed like there was more going on than the people close to him let on. My guess was suicide but a lot of pieces to it were very strange indeed.



I think he had some of psychotic episode, the letter was strange.


Definitely some foul play involved by the friends company. The fact they were in financial trouble and he was hired to help fix it leads me to believe he stumbled upon something he shouldn’t have and it lead to an altercation.

How he ended up where he did is bizarre. Doesn’t seem like he could have plunged from the top of the building or the garage, but how does the hole end up there if he didn’t jump and his corpse was directly below it.

Maybe he was killed somewhere else and they knew of the hole in the roof there and put the body there thus why the phones and what not were unscathed.

The fact that the friends company won’t speak just makes them look guilty as sin and I think it was someone from that company that conveniently found the hole in the ceiling of the hotel.
I think he jumped or was thrown  
widmerseyebrow : 7/7/2020 10:54 am : link
I imagine beating the shit out of a 6'5" 260lb guy, breaking his bones, moving his body into that room, and punching a hole in a metal roof without anyone noticing or leaving any trace of him being moved would be really difficult. Remember the camera heading up to the roof was conveniently off at that time.

My guess is he was beat to death or near death and then thrown off the roof. Perpetrators realized his phone and glasses weren't on him so they hastily placed them at the hole in an attempt to show it was a suicide.
RE: The french one with the father  
Greg from LI : 7/7/2020 11:08 am : link
In comment 14929692 ryanmkeane said:
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who kills the entire family and then somehow escapes/possibly still at large was pretty unbelievable.


Especially since the speculation is his motivation was financial failure. If that's the case, where did he get the money to flee the country and stay hidden?
RE: RE: The french one with the father  
ryanmkeane : 7/7/2020 11:32 am : link
In comment 14929766 Greg from LI said:
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who kills the entire family and then somehow escapes/possibly still at large was pretty unbelievable.



Especially since the speculation is his motivation was financial failure. If that's the case, where did he get the money to flee the country and stay hidden?

That's immediately what I was thinking...I read an article about it and apparently he took a lot of stuff from the house (including wife's jewelry) and possibly sold/pawned it in order to stay afloat for those few weeks. All speculation but as you said its hard to fathom that he could last for awhile without any money.
Regarding the Rey Rivera one...  
ryanmkeane : 7/7/2020 11:45 am : link
it has been noted that he quotes "The Game" in the note he left behind. Towards the end of that movie Michael Douglas' character jumps off the hotel roof and lands through the glass (and survives). Just a weird coincidence maybe, but that is a really odd connection.
first episode....  
retiredmz : 7/7/2020 4:28 pm : link
he was tossed off... no way he committed suicide.....especially when his best friend won't even talk about it to anybody....Rey stumbled across some info....and somebody invited him to the roof....probably for a cigar ....
re: Rey Rivera  
Strahan91 : 7/7/2020 7:50 pm : link
I saw this posted elsewhere and thought others might find it interesting. This all comes from a reader of a book on the case entitled "An Unexplained Death: The True Story of a Body at the Belvedere". No idea if the book or Netflix has their facts wrong though.

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Was doing a lot of reading up on that new unsolved Mysteries Rey Rivera Case and can't believe how much Netflix got wrong or didn't put into it.

The cops actually tossed his flip flops down to other police on the lower roof from the main roof after he was found dead. They also tossed his wallet and keys down to detectives the following morning.

Rey and his wife had been married for 2 years but only lived together for 6 months.

His wife didn't go with him initially to Baltimore from California. He was there alone for quite a bit, over 8 months.

Witnesses at the hotel that night heard a loud bang at 10pm, so loud it shook their windows. No police ever questioned anyone if they heard or saw anything, though the noise complaints were recorded. This is interesting because that means it was about 4 hours after he left the house.

The scene wasn't secured. The ceiling later collapsed more when people walked on it.

Netflix totally omits that Rey was in about $90k debt when he died, but most of that would have been reimbursed from a movie project he was working on. Since he died without any life insurance however, his wife had to pay all of that back since it was on her credit card.

There was plenty of room to make a running jump despite Netflix claiming he couldn't have made it. Studies done after his death showed he only needed 11mph speed to make that distance and land where he did. Which the autopsy actually does show that's what he likely did.

There is a nightclub called 'The 13th Floor' which is on the 13thish floor of the belvedere. From the nightclub is one of the sets of stairs to the roof rey is believed to have used. Bartenders use it to go smoke and many couples use the stairwells for intimate activities. The other roof access is more difficult as you have to cross the nightclub to reach the roof. However, in any case, he needed to have known how to get there.

Police reports showed he had frequented the hotel. It's in the inquest report. His wife Allison said at the inquest they went to the Owl Bar on the ground floor twice after she moved to Baltimore. She did not know if he had been there before she moved to join him, in the Netflix show they claim he never had been there.

One theory that the police privately speculated on was that he was in a homosexual relationship with a co-worker and that there may have been blackmail involved, since the bar and nightclub were known gay pick up spots at the time. It was also found that many gay couples came and went via the stairwells that Rey is believed to have used.

Allison says Rey was fascinated with the Freemasons, was writing a movie about them and wanted to join them. The day of his death, after buying "Freemasonry for Dummies", he met with a member of a lodge to see about joining. His wife never revealed how this meeting had gone.

Rey went to Baltimore to work with his friends (many of his high school friends worked for Stansberry at the time though Porter is the only one mentioned by Netflix). Rey was only supposed to go for a month, but it kept stretching out. His wife never revealed whether the long term of living apart was to do with marital problems but some media insinuated this at the time.

Rey actually left Stansberry on good terms, per multiple people involved. Netflix show suggested he was still working there at the time but, he was actually doing independent work for them from home.

Most of what his wife Allison said in the Netflix show doesn't match the Inquest, police report or the various media reports from the time, the families story seemed to change once they began sueing an author in 2011 over her writing about Rey being depressed about his marriage breaking down.

The note that was found and the family claim was a suicide note in the Netflix show was actually identified by the police as a 'Tone Reel' a writing exercise taught to film students to help with writers block and to get ideas down on paper quickly.
I think that by letting the survivors tell the story  
Phil in LA : 7/8/2020 12:30 am : link
instead of using a lot of narration, the stories hit harder. I don't remember feeling as bad about any of the old ones as I did for these survivors. Though, i do miss Robert Stack, who used to do voices for me. Hilarious in person.
RE: first episode....  
Greg from LI : 7/8/2020 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14929990 retiredmz said:
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he was tossed off... no way he committed suicide.....especially when his best friend won't even talk about it to anybody....Rey stumbled across some info....and somebody invited him to the roof....probably for a cigar ....


Who was doing the tossing, Andre the Giant? Do you realize how difficult it would be to throw a 6'5" 260 pound man off a roof with sufficient force that he lands that far away?
Feel like he was dropped  
Phil in LA : 7/8/2020 3:38 pm : link
because he would have had to perform a mid air pike to create such a relatively small hole.
RE: I think that by letting the survivors tell the story  
aimrocky : 7/8/2020 5:04 pm : link
In comment 14930158 Phil in LA said:
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instead of using a lot of narration, the stories hit harder. I don't remember feeling as bad about any of the old ones as I did for these survivors. Though, i do miss Robert Stack, who used to do voices for me. Hilarious in person.


A few years ago, Bio channel put out a series called "I Survived" that had the survivors detail these horrific situations. It was no cinema, just the survivors stories with still shots of scenery that applied to the story along with captions. I'd be completely captivated for the entire hour.
I do like that they included Stack's image in the intro sequence  
Greg from LI : 7/8/2020 5:53 pm : link
It's a nice touch
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