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BlueLou'sBack : 7/7/2020 9:17 am
My mom made some concoction when I was young, not exactly a mac'n cheese but rather a creamy noodle casserole that consisted of tuna, peas, and condensed cream of mushroom soup.

As kids, my big brother and I lapped that shit up.

I'm not sure how closely I want to recreate something like that - sensibilities change - but I do want to use up some good extra sharp white cheddar and some roughly grated "Grand Ewe" sheep's milk aged Dutch Gouda that's been sitting in the fridge too long already.

I have on hand already well sauteed sliced mushrooms, a crimini and Shitake blend, Campbell's condensed Cream of Mushroom soup, frozen petite peas, plenty of canned tuna, and most other "regular" cheeses one might employ in a Mac n Cheese style dish: (grated parm-pecirino blend, ricotta, Jarlsberg, plain cream cheese, etc.)

I have a frozen ready cleaned seafood mix from TJ's if I thought a "Lobster Mac n Cheese" analog was the thing to do.

Also a few types of pasta suitable for casseroles.

Anyone have an iconic family recipe to share? Or some recent twist on the classic from Sunset or Bon Appetit?

TIA
What your mom made  
BigBlueShock : 7/7/2020 9:24 am : link
Was Tuna Casserole. That is nothing like Mac and Cheese
My father used to take all the leftovers from the week...  
Milton : 7/7/2020 9:28 am : link
Put them in a pot, add water and lots of pepper, heat to a boil, and then get my sisters' boyfriends to eat it because none of us would go near it.
Yeah  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2020 9:30 am : link
my mother called that tuna casserole and had to crush potato chips on top or we wouldn't eat it.
Tuna casserole is still one of my favorite meals.  
Bill L : 7/7/2020 9:34 am : link
For me, it had to be extra wide egg noddles. No potato chips. Peas optional.
I am so lazy on my mac and cheese nowadays  
Bill L : 7/7/2020 9:41 am : link
used to be I would carefully make a bechamel with some dry mustard and nutmeg, temper an egg into it melt 3 or four different cheeses before folding it into macaroni and then baking the whole thing.

Now its instant pot the macaroni with some chicken broth and seasonings, then dump in a can of evaporated milk and grated cheddar, grated jack plus some chunks of velveeta and then call it a day. Cool thing is that it takes about 15 minutes total, but how lazy is that?

Although sometimes, I add cajun seasonings, fried andouille, and crawfish tails and diced canned tomatoes just to mix things up.
i'm old school with food, don't like unnecessary shit  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2020 10:21 am : link
in my staple foods for the most part.

Elbow Macaroni
Bachamel Sauce with 50/50 Gruyere and Sharp Cheddar
Cracked Black Pepper
Bake with more grated Cheddar on top.

Can't beat it, doesn't need anything else.
RE: I am so lazy on my mac and cheese nowadays  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/7/2020 10:31 am : link
In comment 14929703 Bill L said:
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used to be I would carefully make a bechamel with some dry mustard and nutmeg, temper an egg into it melt 3 or four different cheeses before folding it into macaroni and then baking the whole thing.

Now its instant pot the macaroni with some chicken broth and seasonings, then dump in a can of evaporated milk and grated cheddar, grated jack plus some chunks of velveeta and then call it a day. Cool thing is that it takes about 15 minutes total, but how lazy is that?

Although sometimes, I add cajun seasonings, fried andouille, and crawfish tails and diced canned tomatoes just to mix things up.


Bill you didn't say it directly, but it's questionable indeed if the entire labor intensive process of a bechamel based Mac n Cheese is truly worth the effort.

Compared to something like Fettuccine Alfredo. And either one can absorb things like julienne ham, sausage, sliced shrooms, peas...

Paglia e fieno is like that.

RE: i'm old school with food, don't like unnecessary shit  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/7/2020 10:32 am : link
In comment 14929728 UConn4523 said:
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in my staple foods for the most part.

Elbow Macaroni
Bachamel Sauce with 50/50 Gruyere and Sharp Cheddar
Cracked Black Pepper
Bake with more grated Cheddar on top.

Can't beat it, doesn't need anything else.


Well that's the classic right there with a great cheese blend...
My two key mac and cheese adds are  
regulator : 7/7/2020 11:33 am : link
tomatoes (crushed are great, but adding even a little tomato sauce is good for me) and breadcrumbs on top while baking.

Cheese mix depends on the mood/what's in the fridge, but pretty much anything that will melt nicely into the bechamel. For the pasta, I always go with fusilli. Just a preference.
Did one this weekend in my smoker  
Steve L : 7/7/2020 11:35 am : link
Make a rue. Add cream cheese and milk
Mix Gouda, cheddar and shredded parm
Mix all together with elbows. Into the smoker for one hour.

Delicious!!!
My mother in law  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2020 12:03 pm : link
adds diced bacon.

And it's not just having the bacon added - which would be fine, but cooking it with the bacon just adds so much flavor.

It's practically the only way my kids will eat it.

She's also done it with diced kielbasa which I also enjoy, but the bacon is much better.

Traditional is fine, one of many people's favorite comfort foods, but I like it with bacon best.
I once worked at a high end bistro  
smshmth8690 : 7/7/2020 1:27 pm : link
on the Jersey Shore. It wasn't quite a fine dining place, but the focus was on great products. The mac n' cheese that was on the menu was a favorite of the customers. One day a person leaving the restaurant, popped their head in the kitchen, and asked how we were able to get the mac n' cheese so 'impossibly creamy'. The chef/owner just said simply 'Veveeta'. Turned out that the person who asked was the NJ food critic for the NY Times, and yes it made the paper. I don't use the recipe, but I can't forget it. Melt together one 3 lb. block of cream cheese with a qt of half & half, then stir in a 5 lb block of velveeta.

I have found that if you add a little cream cheese into what ever liquid dairy you use, it helps hold whatever cheese you want to use without breaking, without using a béchamel.
Drew, basically with all the extra fat from cream cheese  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/7/2020 2:05 pm : link
and half and half you're making a bastard child of fettucci5ne , sans parmesan.

One of my girls didn't care for the taste of parmesan and pecorino that I'd use in Alfredo, so for her I adapted the recipe for "Alfredo" to Israeli style Alfredo, by simply melting/stirring fresh creamy goat cheese into it, instead of parm or pecorino.

She loved it prepared that way.
RE: Drew, basically with all the extra fat from cream cheese  
smshmth8690 : 7/7/2020 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14929888 BlueLou'sBack said:
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and half and half you're making a bastard child of fettucci5ne , sans parmesan.

One of my girls didn't care for the taste of parmesan and pecorino that I'd use in Alfredo, so for her I adapted the recipe for "Alfredo" to Israeli style Alfredo, by simply melting/stirring fresh creamy goat cheese into it, instead of parm or pecorino.

She loved it prepared that way.


It sounds really good, may have to try it when I eat pasta again!
RE: i'm old school with food, don't like unnecessary shit  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 7/7/2020 3:50 pm : link
In comment 14929728 UConn4523 said:
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in my staple foods for the most part.

Elbow Macaroni
Bachamel Sauce with 50/50 Gruyere and Sharp Cheddar
Cracked Black Pepper
Bake with more grated Cheddar on top.

Can't beat it, doesn't need anything else.


With uconn on this one.

Mac and cheese is like a grilled cheese, when you start adding berries and caviar it becomes something else entirely.
RE: What your mom made  
LBH15 : 7/7/2020 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14929693 BigBlueShock said:
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Was Tuna Casserole. That is nothing like Mac and Cheese


that was funny
A nice twist on Mac 'n Cheese is to  
LBH15 : 7/7/2020 6:40 pm : link
chop up and saute chorizo in a pan, and then add that with some bread crumbs on top of the mac n cheese tray into the oven or broiler.

Also make sure you add a nice dark lager beer into the bechamel sauce.

Gold.

How much pasta is that  
He's Not Here : 7/7/2020 6:46 pm : link
Velveeta one for?
RE: How much pasta is that  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/8/2020 12:21 am : link
In comment 14930039 He's Not Here said:
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Velveeta one for?


I'd like to hear the answer on this one too. Thats enough cheese sauce for, I'm estimating 4 oz of cheese pet serving, 30+ portions. So at least 6# of macaroni?
I am partial to Bacon and Peas,  
barens : 7/8/2020 12:38 pm : link
with lots of sharp cheddar.

Really a once a year type of dish for me now, but so delicious!!
...  
GP : 7/8/2020 12:54 pm : link
Velveeta is gross.

Traditional mac and cheese pairs well with a hint of tangy bbq sauce and pulled pork.
Green Chiles  
A-Train : 7/9/2020 7:40 am : link
And scallions, topped with diced jalapenos. Mmmm.
RE: What your mom made  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/11/2020 4:36 am : link
In comment 14929693 BigBlueShock said:
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Was Tuna Casserole. That is nothing like Mac and Cheese


I just have to give some props to BigBlueShock for this classic dumbfuck BBI response, which naturally and expectedly was the very first one to my query.

Why was it a BBI classic response? Let me count the ways...

1) it doesn't in the least answer the query in the OP which generally asked for folks' favorite Mac n Cheese mix ins...

2) it aims to be a sort of "correction" or teaching point from a person who's a relative ignoramus in the field of the OP (cooking) to a post from someone who's an expert in the field of cooking, has "skins on the wall" from both a long experienced culinary and wine professional career.

3) it's smarmy in tone.

4) it involved almost zero effort, and certainly not a whiff of actual research to write up.

Bravo, well done, kudos.

And for my own "laziness" in posting the query here rather than just making a Google search for <tuna noodle mushroom casserole> a 3 second search of just those key words returned as the 3rd or 4th option a recipe, the most highly rated recipe reviewed on Google with a flat 5.0 star rating, the recipe linked below.

Which in fact combines the classic tuna noodle casserole recipe with two cups of grated cheddar cheese, making it EXACTLY a combo of tuna noodle casserole and Mac n Cheese!


5 stars tuna noodle Mac n cheese hybrid recipe from Food.com - ( New Window )
RE: Green Chiles  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/11/2020 4:38 am : link
In comment 14930666 A-Train said:
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And scallions, topped with diced jalapenos. Mmmm.


That sounds very simply delicious, thanks.
RE: RE: What your mom made  
BigBlueShock : 7/11/2020 11:54 am : link
In comment 14931681 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14929693 BigBlueShock said:


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Was Tuna Casserole. That is nothing like Mac and Cheese



I just have to give some props to BigBlueShock for this classic dumbfuck BBI response, which naturally and expectedly was the very first one to my query.

Why was it a BBI classic response? Let me count the ways...

1) it doesn't in the least answer the query in the OP which generally asked for folks' favorite Mac n Cheese mix ins...

2) it aims to be a sort of "correction" or teaching point from a person who's a relative ignoramus in the field of the OP (cooking) to a post from someone who's an expert in the field of cooking, has "skins on the wall" from both a long experienced culinary and wine professional career.

3) it's smarmy in tone.

4) it involved almost zero effort, and certainly not a whiff of actual research to write up.

Bravo, well done, kudos.

And for my own "laziness" in posting the query here rather than just making a Google search for <tuna noodle mushroom casserole> a 3 second search of just those key words returned as the 3rd or 4th option a recipe, the most highly rated recipe reviewed on Google with a flat 5.0 star rating, the recipe linked below.

Which in fact combines the classic tuna noodle casserole recipe with two cups of grated cheddar cheese, making it EXACTLY a combo of tuna noodle casserole and Mac n Cheese!
5 stars tuna noodle Mac n cheese hybrid recipe from Food.com - ( New Window )

You spent an awful lot of energy to respond to what was clearly a fucking joke. And to think, it only took you 4 days to do the research and put that incredible post together. Embarrassing.

Not sure why you took my post so personal, but you can fuck off. Your sensitivities are not my problem. Now, spend the next 4 days preparing your response...I can’t wait. Hopefully it’s better than your last response. Clown.
Oh by the way  
BigBlueShock : 7/11/2020 12:07 pm : link
Your point #2 is hysterical. You’re a cooking “expert” yet you clearly had no idea that the “concoction” your mom made was a very common recipe with an actual name.

At any rate, I’m sorry you were so offended by my post. 4 days later. I’ll try to remember how sensitive to are in the future.
Lou was abused as a child...  
EricJ : 7/11/2020 12:19 pm : link
holy shit... tuna in the mac & cheese
RE: Lou was abused as a child...  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/11/2020 3:55 pm : link
In comment 14931831 EricJ said:
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holy shit... tuna in the mac & cheese


Hey that recipe I linked, the tuna casserole with grated cheddar, has a 5 star rating. Some folks apparently like it.
Yoohoo, BigBlueShock....  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/11/2020 4:08 pm : link
So now you bring out the f bomb, accuse me of "spending four days to <work up> a response to your little joke", and further ascertain that I "don't know there is a name for tuna noodle casserole!"

And put the "expert" of my food expertise in quotes...

Out of memory and the use of the iterative process, I can make a great Hollandaise sauce (or it's cousin Bernaise). Better than any you will ever taste in your life, most likely, because lots of professional chefs don't know the key to a great, as opposed to merely good, Hollandaise.

Out of memory... And I haven't actually made a Hollandaise sauce in at least 30 years.

You're dumber than I assumed even.

But thanks for everything. Without your wit I "wouldn't have known" to Google the phrase "Tuna Noodle Casserole".

ROTFLMAO.


Sometimes a response takes a while because, as one might guess, it wasn't worthy of immediate attention. Try that on your pea brain.
RE: I am so lazy on my mac and cheese nowadays  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2020 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14929703 Bill L said:
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used to be I would carefully make a bechamel with some dry mustard and nutmeg, temper an egg into it melt 3 or four different cheeses before folding it into macaroni and then baking the whole thing.

Now its instant pot the macaroni with some chicken broth and seasonings, then dump in a can of evaporated milk and grated cheddar, grated jack plus some chunks of velveeta and then call it a day. Cool thing is that it takes about 15 minutes total, but how lazy is that?

Although sometimes, I add cajun seasonings, fried andouille, and crawfish tails and diced canned tomatoes just to mix things up.


We are even lazier (mostly make it for kids) but literally just strain the noodles and add shredded cheddar/butter and mix. Will occasionally mix in some milk/parm too. Still comes out great.
Blue Lou  
Bill2 : 7/11/2020 6:36 pm : link
Dont know where you jumped the tracks my friend...mis- understanding or mis-communicating but the rest of the known world recognizes a slight variation on tuna casserole ( of which there are hundreds) and a mac and cheese recipe ( of which there are hundreds).

No one questioned what ever expertise level you wish to claim. You could have taught Escoffier, Julia Child and Jacques Pepin all they know and dismissed Gordon Ramsey from your kitchen ...that post was either a mis understanding or a mis-communication.

PS: just quietly and humbly and helpfully show people what you know about cooking...dont declare it. The first declares expertise and the second announces insecurity
RE: Blue Lou  
steve in ky : 7/11/2020 7:47 pm : link
In comment 14931939 Bill2 said:
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Dont know where you jumped the tracks my friend...mis- understanding or mis-communicating but the rest of the known world recognizes a slight variation on tuna casserole ( of which there are hundreds) and a mac and cheese recipe ( of which there are hundreds).

No one questioned what ever expertise level you wish to claim. You could have taught Escoffier, Julia Child and Jacques Pepin all they know and dismissed Gordon Ramsey from your kitchen ...that post was either a mis understanding or a mis-communication.

Well said

PS: just quietly and humbly and helpfully show people what you know about cooking...dont declare it. The first declares expertise and the second announces insecurity
Well somehow  
steve in ky : 7/11/2020 7:49 pm : link
My “well said” ended up in the middle of Bills thread instead of under it. Must be big hands and little phone.
Well deserved scolding, I recognize I had it coming Bill.  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/11/2020 9:05 pm : link
It does annoy me (far beyond reasonably) when a plebe attempts to "school me".

Especially when several fine suggestions followed, like bacon or chili peppers, it would make far more sense to have let it slide.

Sometimes I like behaving poorly. It's an acquired trait.
Blue Lou  
Bill2 : 7/11/2020 11:18 pm : link
Like every other person, I can only recognize patterns and failures I see in myself.

Please always remember that people call out habits and traits they dont like about themselves.
How else could they so easily recognize it when they see it? Why else would they get annoyed?

(Because its a failure they have in common and cant see it or correct it in themselves????)

Oddly, most of us see things in what others write or say and live our whole lives never realizing the old incredibly great Pogo line:

"We have finally met the real enemy. And he is us"

Take care Blue Lou
One of my favorite quotes:  
adamg : 7/12/2020 12:04 am : link
“If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself." Hesse
More important than this really bad back and forth  
LBH15 : 7/12/2020 8:07 am : link
what is this secret please between great and just good Hollandaise?

Thx
RE: RE: Lou was abused as a child...  
EricJ : 7/12/2020 8:56 am : link
In comment 14931895 BlueLou'sBack said:
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Hey that recipe I linked, the tuna casserole with grated cheddar, has a 5 star rating. Some folks apparently like it.


Prisoners...
RE: More important than this really bad back and forth  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/12/2020 10:18 am : link
In comment 14932033 LBH15 said:
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what is this secret please between great and just good Hollandaise?

Thx


Use whole melted unsalted butter, not clarified butter. Most recipes call for clarified butter, which makes a more stable but less tasty sauce with a more mayonnaise like texture. Those milk solids and water make a heckuva difference.

So glad you asked, Googs.
RE: RE: RE: Lou was abused as a child...  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/12/2020 10:20 am : link
In comment 14932045 EricJ said:
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In comment 14931895 BlueLou'sBack said:


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Hey that recipe I linked, the tuna casserole with grated cheddar, has a 5 star rating. Some folks apparently like it.



Prisoners...


Federal prisoners. I doubt state prisons allow internet access to their patrons.
RE: RE: More important than this really bad back and forth  
LBH15 : 7/12/2020 10:47 am : link
In comment 14932067 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14932033 LBH15 said:


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what is this secret please between great and just good Hollandaise?

Thx



Use whole melted unsalted butter, not clarified butter. Most recipes call for clarified butter, which makes a more stable but less tasty sauce with a more mayonnaise like texture. Those milk solids and water make a heckuva difference.

So glad you asked, Googs.


Not googs but thanks. Btw - my wife uses regular unsalted butter as well so not sure a secret.
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