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NFT: Umpire Joe West Returning to MLB, Shrugs Off COVID Concerns

Anando : 7/7/2020 10:53 am
From The Athletic:

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“If this game hasn’t gotten me by now, no virus is going to get me,” West said on Monday night. “I’ve weathered a bunch of storms in my life. I’ll weather another one.”

Major League Baseball determined West to be high-risk for COVID-19. The league is offering full pay and service time to high-risk umpires who choose not to work, just as it is for high-risk players. But West, 67, told deputy commissioner Dan Halem on Sunday afternoon that he planned to return for his 42nd season, extending the longest umpiring career in major-league history.


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The league cannot legally force an umpire to opt out, but most high-risk umps are expected to step aside. West said Halem was “taken aback” by his choice to work, and promised to do everything possible to keep him and the other umpires safe.

“He said, ‘According to our doctors, you’re high-risk,’” recalled West, who lives in Clermont, Fl., about 22 miles west of Orlando. “I said, ‘Look, most of these people that they’re reporting are dying are not healthy to begin with. I’ve lost 25 pounds over the winter. I’m playing golf every day in the heat. I’m fine. I’m not going to back down now.’

“I don’t believe in my heart that all these deaths have been from the coronavirus. I believe it may have contributed to some of the deaths.

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Covid  
RicFlair : 7/7/2020 10:55 am : link
Revealing a lot of stupid these days.
I see..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/7/2020 10:57 am : link
his decision making off the field is as good as it is on the field.
What does he think  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2020 10:58 am : link
the other deaths are from?

trips and falls?
The toothpaste is out of the tube  
widmerseyebrow : 7/7/2020 10:59 am : link
Just gotta wait for a vaccine and everyone will do whatever they want until then. And I'm sure we'll somehow find a way to make getting the vaccine a 50-50 issue when it's available.
The ease in which smart people  
bubba0825 : 7/7/2020 11:00 am : link
Reject reality and create the narrative that fits them is shocking and damaging to the country
RE: The ease in which smart people  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/7/2020 11:01 am : link
In comment 14929759 bubba0825 said:
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Reject reality and create the narrative that fits them is shocking and damaging to the country


All evidence to the contrary that West is smart based on his comments.
Joe West...  
Chris in Philly : 7/7/2020 11:01 am : link
has been one of the most ignorant jerkoffs for many years - long before coronavirus so this is no exception.
This bias against science  
djm : 7/7/2020 11:08 am : link
Just amazes me. We like to think we’ve evolved since the dark ages or ancient times or whatever fucked up, days gone by era, but so many people don’t believe science. Astonishing.
RE: I see..  
Eman11 : 7/7/2020 11:09 am : link
In comment 14929753 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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his decision making off the field is as good as it is on the field.


Haha. That was exactly my first reaction to reading this. His arrogance seems to be the same on/off the field as well.
RE: The ease in which smart people  
MetsAreBack : 7/7/2020 11:09 am : link
In comment 14929759 bubba0825 said:
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Reject reality and create the narrative that fits them is shocking and damaging to the country


On what basis have you determined West is a smart individual? To be fair i dont know his educational background - also dont understand his comments above about "if this game hasnt gotten me by now" - is baseball somehow treacherous?
Not surprising that arguably MLBs worst umpire  
Heisenberg : 7/7/2020 11:10 am : link
would have the worst opinion about science.
he's rightfully worried about a robot ump taking his job  
Eric on Li : 7/7/2020 11:15 am : link
come to think of it how MLB didn't seize this short season as an opportunity to test that out is beyond me.
RE: he's rightfully worried about a robot ump taking his job  
MetsAreBack : 7/7/2020 11:18 am : link
In comment 14929775 Eric on Li said:
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come to think of it how MLB didn't seize this short season as an opportunity to test that out is beyond me.


i thought i read a few months ago they were leaning that way? I guess the union wouldnt put up with any progress. So many of these ref jobs should be automated - don't get me started on why the NHL still has two on-ice linesmen... they do nothing but get in the way of plays.
I thought players were mostly for robot umps?  
Eric on Li : 7/7/2020 11:25 am : link
either way I don't know why either side would be against it. MLB wants to speed up play and everyone hates the umps. Perfect opportunity to use social distancing as an excuse to try it. MLB never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Everything you ever thought about Joe West  
Mad Mike : 7/7/2020 11:29 am : link
confirmed.
RE: Not surprising that arguably MLBs worst umpire  
bigbluehoya : 7/7/2020 11:30 am : link
In comment 14929772 Heisenberg said:
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would have the worst opinion about science.


I don't like West, but for as long as Angel Hernandez is employed, he's gotta be the undisputed champ.
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I am Ninja : 7/7/2020 11:42 am : link
Notwithstanding anything in this article, he's a monumental asshole.
It's almost as if MLB brass  
figgy2989 : 7/7/2020 11:51 am : link
came up with this "full pay even if you opt out" rule specifically for Joe West as they know how terrible he is. West is just not smart enough to see that.

Hopefully his other crony Angel Hernandez takes the deal and does not umpire this season.
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christian : 7/7/2020 12:11 pm : link
Good thing Joe West doesn’t have a gig where clear observations, accurate interpretations, and good sense is critical.
It's a bit fatalistic.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/7/2020 12:25 pm : link
He'll get sick from exposure at work or he won't. If he gets sick, he's at especially high risk for severe illness or death, but it's not a sure thing. Nothing's a sure thing. I'm a bit younger than him, I wouldn't take that risk (In fact, I'm staying on work-from-home indefinitely, along with a number of older workers at my employer.), but people are gonna do what people are gonna do.
RE: It's a bit fatalistic.  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2020 12:31 pm : link
In comment 14929820 81_Great_Dane said:
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He'll get sick from exposure at work or he won't. If he gets sick, he's at especially high risk for severe illness or death, but it's not a sure thing. Nothing's a sure thing. I'm a bit younger than him, I wouldn't take that risk (In fact, I'm staying on work-from-home indefinitely, along with a number of older workers at my employer.), but people are gonna do what people are gonna do.


This is what concerns me, older folks who are fine with the risk and what happens from there. If they get sick and die, what does that do to a company/entity? 1 reckless decision can have repercussions far beyond the individual.
In this case  
MetsAreBack : 7/7/2020 12:36 pm : link
not only will he sign a waiver, but its on record how ignorant and brazen he was. At some point adults need to be allowed to make their own decisions.

If he dies it shouldnt be more than a footnote that we get a few times a year during an ESPN broadcast about how so and so official died from heart attack, stroke, cancer, accident, whatever.
I would hope that's the case  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2020 12:38 pm : link
and maybe it will be for MLB, but what about companies of 10-50 people? 1 death will rock them.
you mean economically, or morale?  
MetsAreBack : 7/7/2020 12:40 pm : link
On the latter we've already had 130,000 casualties so plenty of companies out there have dealt with this. Economically i know Congress was trying to put together a package that included legal protections to help get employees back to work.
morale  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2020 12:44 pm : link
most of the deaths have happened while the masses have been at home. Once things normalize and people continue to ramp up back at work, being out there and actually seeing a colleague succumb to this is going to have varying effects, none of which are positive. Companies like mine will allow WFH but companies that can't will be in a bit of a bind.
clown  
fanofthejets : 7/7/2020 2:25 pm : link
Can't stand Joe West. Thinks the fans are their to see him. He's near CB Bucknor/Angel Hernandez level of incompetence. Apathetic with a hairtrigger temper
RE: RE: Not surprising that arguably MLBs worst umpire  
Heisenberg : 7/7/2020 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14929787 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 14929772 Heisenberg said:


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would have the worst opinion about science.



I don't like West, but for as long as Angel Hernandez is employed, he's gotta be the undisputed champ.


Ha, Forgot about him! Agreed.
RE: RE: It's a bit fatalistic.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/7/2020 3:45 pm : link
In comment 14929823 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14929820 81_Great_Dane said:


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He'll get sick from exposure at work or he won't. If he gets sick, he's at especially high risk for severe illness or death, but it's not a sure thing. Nothing's a sure thing. I'm a bit younger than him, I wouldn't take that risk (In fact, I'm staying on work-from-home indefinitely, along with a number of older workers at my employer.), but people are gonna do what people are gonna do.



This is what concerns me, older folks who are fine with the risk and what happens from there. If they get sick and die, what does that do to a company/entity? 1 reckless decision can have repercussions far beyond the individual.
True. It's sort of myopic to only think of yourself. He should really make sure his will, his end-of-life directives etc are all in order, and that his funeral instructions are in a place where people can find them.

He's not at any more risk of infection than any other player or umpire, I guess. Though I suspect catchers and umpires are going to be at elevated risk of catching this from each other because they work in close physical proximity. If he gets it, and he's working the plate, the catchers will get it.
RE: I thought players were mostly for robot umps?  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/8/2020 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14929783 Eric on Li said:
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either way I don't know why either side would be against it. MLB wants to speed up play and everyone hates the umps. Perfect opportunity to use social distancing as an excuse to try it. MLB never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.


Interesting point about the robot umps. Don't forget that Joe West isn't just a regular old umpire, he's the President of the MLB Umpire's Association. So his opinion on matters like these reflect more than his own feelings, or so you would think. He probably views baseball using robot umps in a test run as a potential death knell to the Umpire Association. Doesn't excuse his dumb logic about the COVID deaths which has been repeated by way too many people, but I think he's definitely coming from a place where he's trying to protect his and other umps value to the game.
follow up on this  
Anando : 7/9/2020 12:32 pm : link
Smacked down by the organization you're the President of.  
Mad Mike : 7/9/2020 12:34 pm : link
Ouch.
Buster Posey opts out  
MetsAreBack : 7/10/2020 12:38 pm : link
another player that's made a lifetime of earnings and then some that recently adopted twin infants that were born prematurely.

Makes perfect sense to me and best of luck to the Posey family.
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