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NFT: Non Political: Stevie Cohen and Wilpons getting along

CMicks3110 : 7/7/2020 6:31 pm
SCOOP-Baseball sources tell
@FoxBusiness
hedge fund billionaire Steve Cohen & the Wilpons have patches up their differences and have been discussing Cohen’s purchase of
@Mets
yet another indication that (as I reported) Cohen is the leading contender for the team story developing
Stevie  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2020 6:37 pm : link
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RE: Stevie  
robbieballs2003 : 7/7/2020 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14930032 pjcas18 said:
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Sounds good. Now let it happen  
Ira : 7/7/2020 6:41 pm : link
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Are you sure this isn't political?  
yatqb : 7/7/2020 7:02 pm : link
I mean, anything can morph. Not sure what's safe anymore.
Patch things up  
cjd2404 : 7/7/2020 7:21 pm : link
Is code for "I have more money than the other bidders"
why would this be construed as political?  
MetsAreBack : 7/7/2020 7:22 pm : link

Did I miss out on the fun in another thread?
Wilpons are a bit slow  
johnnyb : 7/7/2020 7:35 pm : link
but finally coming to the realization that Stevie has the dough and the desire to purchase the Mets. Whatever beef you have or had with the guy is not worth jeopardizing a $2 Billion sale price.
I'm not even a Mets fan, but please, for the love of God,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/7/2020 7:49 pm : link
just sell the team to someone-Cohen, A-Rod, Eli Manning, whoever-so we don't get a near daily thread on this/closure. Haha. I'm not saying the threads annoy me, but it's every other day that we get a 'Are the Mets going to sell?' thread.

I'm no Mets fan/baseball fan in general, but I have relatives in Jersey/Long Island who are & they hate the Wilpons.
announce the deal is back on with whatever adjustments or stfu  
Eric on Li : 7/7/2020 7:54 pm : link
the rumors do nothing for Cohen and everyone knows he wants the team and has the money to get it done. They went through 6-12 months of negotiations already and the guy is a partial owner well aware of their finances. Give the guy a number and let him say yes or no and get on with the other bids. Fucking Wilpons drag everything out.
'Fucking Wilpons drag everything out.'  
Torrag : 7/7/2020 8:13 pm : link
They thought they could sucker him into letting them keep their toy for a few years after he dropped 2+ billion on them. After he made it clear as negotiations went forward that wasn't happening 'lil jeffi had a tantwum and fucked it all up. No one is doling out that level of investment and waiting years to take control...especially of a luxury item sale like a sports franchise.

Now they've seen which way the wind is blowing ie leaving several hundred million dollars on the table with Cohen out of the bidding. Gee what a shock the slimeballs suddenly want to mend fences and be friends again.
RE: RE: Stevie  
Optimus-NY : 7/8/2020 12:08 am : link
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OMG, You've got me rolling dude. I've gotta go back and watch that series again, lmfao!
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Hilary : 7/8/2020 6:09 am : link
Of the groups mentioned as interested in the Mets only Cohen and Harris/Blitzer seem to have the ability to pay and Cohen seems more capable of buying the team.

Good bye to the Wilpons and Brodie can't come fast enough.
RE: 'Fucking Wilpons drag everything out.'  
Victor in CT : 7/8/2020 7:38 am : link
In comment 14930098 Torrag said:
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They thought they could sucker him into letting them keep their toy for a few years after he dropped 2+ billion on them. After he made it clear as negotiations went forward that wasn't happening 'lil jeffi had a tantwum and fucked it all up. No one is doling out that level of investment and waiting years to take control...especially of a luxury item sale like a sports franchise.

Now they've seen which way the wind is blowing ie leaving several hundred million dollars on the table with Cohen out of the bidding. Gee what a shock the slimeballs suddenly want to mend fences and be friends again.


this. I'm surprised that Cohen didn't come back with the same $2.6 billion bid but with SNY included. The world has changed drastically since last time, and the Wall street reporter from the NY post was on FAN yesterday, said the Mets baseball operation was next to last in profit. Only the Marlins are worse, and theMets are awash in debt.
problem is we know...  
Italianju : 7/8/2020 9:23 am : link
that MLB teams just move money around. Wilpon's probably funneled all their revenue into SNY so the Mets looked like shit.

Otherwise could someone explain how the Mets could be second worst in baseball as that person claims? Honest question. I mean They were solid last year, fans went to the games, they play in NY. We are to believe that a team like say the Pirates made more money?
I think (Hope?)...  
Italianju : 7/8/2020 9:25 am : link
they end up back with Cohen for 2B and the Wilpons are out right away. So Cohen saves 600 million and gets control right away. Wilpons get screwed one more time on their way out, but of course still get a ton of money, too bad.
RE: problem is we know...  
Victor in CT : 7/8/2020 9:28 am : link
In comment 14930226 Italianju said:
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that MLB teams just move money around. Wilpon's probably funneled all their revenue into SNY so the Mets looked like shit.

Otherwise could someone explain how the Mets could be second worst in baseball as that person claims? Honest question. I mean They were solid last year, fans went to the games, they play in NY. We are to believe that a team like say the Pirates made more money?


It's the debt burden on the team and the ballpark. The CitiField bonds were downgraded to junk recently
Still  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 10:15 am : link
hearing some believe this is all coming from the Wilpons. Really hope they are wrong. Again the people I have spoken to *believe* this is a Wilpon leak/story not that they have definitive proof. Gasparino has been all over the place with his reporting and even his information "sitting out round 1" and the POST "bidding Thursday" don't jibe. I want Cohen substantially over the other names but still not convinced.

PS I've also heard that MLB would prefer a group other than the A-Rod group, that the A-Rod group still has $$ questions and that the expectation is that group would be lesser spenders (at least early on) vs. someone like say Cohen.
RE: Stevie  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 10:22 am : link
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For some unknown reason Francesa calls him Stevie Cohen. It's really odd because I've never seen that said or printed anywhere else.
RE: RE: Stevie  
Victor in CT : 7/8/2020 10:26 am : link
In comment 14930261 DanMetroMan said:
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For some unknown reason Francesa calls him Stevie Cohen. It's really odd because I've never seen that said or printed anywhere else.


old habit I think. Mike and the Mad Dog's original producer was Steve Cohen, and they always called him Stevie.
RE: RE: RE: Stevie  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 10:31 am : link
In comment 14930263 Victor in CT said:
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For some unknown reason Francesa calls him Stevie Cohen. It's really odd because I've never seen that said or printed anywhere else.



old habit I think. Mike and the Mad Dog's original producer was Steve Cohen, and they always called him Stevie.


This makes perfect sense. Thanks Victor. I found it so weird given "Stevie" isn't listed in a single article I've ever read about Cohen.
RE: RE: Stevie  
Eric on Li : 7/8/2020 10:33 am : link
In comment 14930261 DanMetroMan said:
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For some unknown reason Francesa calls him Stevie Cohen. It's really odd because I've never seen that said or printed anywhere else.


Look, I've known Stevie since he was in dipahs, ok? Me and dog were at the garden in '94 and he was asking me what I thought about Microsoft during halftime of Knicks/Rockets. Let me tell you something if he wants da team he's getting the team. End of story. You know I love him but sorry A-Rod. Back afta this.
Oh boy  
jlukes : 7/8/2020 11:23 am : link


Charles Gasparino
@CGasparino

BREAKING: As reported hedge fund billionaire Steve Cohen & the Wilpons have been in direct discussions about Cohen's purchase of @Mets, per sources. One described tomorrows "first round" bid process this way: "Everybody bids, the Wilpons show them to Stevie & ask for $200k more"
How is Gasparino breaking this news?  
figgy2989 : 7/8/2020 11:46 am : link
I know he is a Fox News guy, but does he have connections to the Wilpon's or something?
RE: How is Gasparino breaking this news?  
Victor in CT : 7/8/2020 11:48 am : link
In comment 14930302 figgy2989 said:
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I know he is a Fox News guy, but does he have connections to the Wilpon's or something?


more likely to Cohen
RE: problem is we know...  
giants#1 : 7/8/2020 11:51 am : link
In comment 14930226 Italianju said:
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that MLB teams just move money around. Wilpon's probably funneled all their revenue into SNY so the Mets looked like shit.

Otherwise could someone explain how the Mets could be second worst in baseball as that person claims? Honest question. I mean They were solid last year, fans went to the games, they play in NY. We are to believe that a team like say the Pirates made more money?


Don't know for sure, but:

1. High debt from stadium
2. Higher payroll than most

Pirates may have been more profitable, but I doubt their revenue was even in the same ballpark (no pun intended).
Victor  
figgy2989 : 7/8/2020 11:52 am : link
Good point.

With all the leaks from the Wilpons the past few days, I just assumed it was them.

Cohen has been relatively quiet, but maybe he (and his PR team) think now is the time to pounce.
RE: Oh boy  
giants#1 : 7/8/2020 11:54 am : link
In comment 14930290 jlukes said:
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Charles Gasparino
@CGasparino

BREAKING: As reported hedge fund billionaire Steve Cohen & the Wilpons have been in direct discussions about Cohen's purchase of @Mets, per sources. One described tomorrows "first round" bid process this way: "Everybody bids, the Wilpons show them to Stevie & ask for $200k more"


Sounds like acknowledgement that the bids will all be substantially less than what Cohen was (reportedly) offering last winter.
and $200k more  
giants#1 : 7/8/2020 11:56 am : link
on a $2B deal is like digging through you couch for some spare change.
Would  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 12:06 pm : link
love to be wrong but this stinks of the Wilpons (and Gasparino enjoying his moment). He was just on WFAN (which he claims has long been a dream) and he's retweeting articles which quote him. Again, I hope I'm wrong, I want Cohen.
1. 200 K was a joke  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 12:09 pm : link
2. Sounds like Brach either tested positive or is opting out.
.  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 12:33 pm : link
Really fail to see the value of Cespedes getting reps at 1b. In what scenario would he play there? JDD, Dom both with actual 1b experience.
Off  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 12:57 pm : link
the top of my head they have at least 5 players with MLB 1b experience.
RE: Patch things up  
81_Great_Dane : 7/8/2020 2:00 pm : link
In comment 14930057 cjd2404 said:
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Is code for "I have more money than the other bidders"
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"I'd love to give you $2 billion for the Mets, but I'm not paying you that for part you set up to lose money while you keep the part you set up to turn a profit, and I'm not bailing you out with that money while you continue to run the team. If you want to sell, then sell for real."
RE: RE: Oh boy  
Victor in CT : 7/8/2020 2:12 pm : link
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Charles Gasparino
@CGasparino

BREAKING: As reported hedge fund billionaire Steve Cohen & the Wilpons have been in direct discussions about Cohen's purchase of @Mets, per sources. One described tomorrows "first round" bid process this way: "Everybody bids, the Wilpons show them to Stevie & ask for $200k more"



Sounds like acknowledgement that the bids will all be substantially less than what Cohen was (reportedly) offering last winter.


as they should be. and as I said in another thread, the Wilpons went to the George Costanza School of negotiating.
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Metnut : 7/8/2020 2:23 pm : link
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Really fail to see the value of Cespedes getting reps at 1b. In what scenario would he play there? JDD, Dom both with actual 1b experience.


Positional flexibility is something the Mets should do more of. I agree that Cespedes is really unlikely to play 1B, but i hope the organization makes it a mandate to work on positional flexibility for players.

Besides, you never know if Alonso and Mcneil both come down with COVID and are out for a month and Cespedes can't run enough to play OF. We've seen 4-6 starting players quickly go down with injuries in normal yeras/
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DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 2:29 pm : link
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Really fail to see the value of Cespedes getting reps at 1b. In what scenario would he play there? JDD, Dom both with actual 1b experience.



Positional flexibility is something the Mets should do more of. I agree that Cespedes is really unlikely to play 1B, but i hope the organization makes it a mandate to work on positional flexibility for players.

Besides, you never know if Alonso and Mcneil both come down with COVID and are out for a month and Cespedes can't run enough to play OF. We've seen 4-6 starting players quickly go down with injuries in normal yeras/


Alonso, JDD, Dom Smith, Cano, Lowrie all of experience at 1b at the MLB level. If the Mets land on 1b #5 or 6 then the season likely never comes to completion. 60 games, needing at BEST your 4th 1b (Alonso, Dom, JDD....) seems pretty ridiculous and that's before you even get to someone like Cano or Lowrie.
Still  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 2:37 pm : link
unclear if Cohen will in fact bid tomorrow. If he doesn't, then this could take a while. Harris/Blitzer apparently want a bargain basement deal and AROD/JLO are maxed out.
..  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 2:54 pm : link
Interesting 7 groups reportedly were approved but we know only of... A-Rod/JLO, Harris/Blitzer, "maybe" the Reuben brothers, reportedly NOT Cohen (for pre-approval) and potentially a group headed by Kurt Rappaport... who else was approved that we haven't heard?
I  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 2:58 pm : link
forgot Matt Adams as well. Apparently Cespedes took it upon himself to take some reps at 1b and not from the team.
dwq  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 3:07 pm : link
New York Mets
@Mets
·
1m
We’ve added Ryley Gilliam to our player pool.

Jacob Rhame was claimed off waivers by Los Angeles (AL).
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Metnut : 7/8/2020 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14930421 DanMetroMan said:
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forgot Matt Adams as well. Apparently Cespedes took it upon himself to take some reps at 1b and not from the team.


Cespedes is likely a better hitter than Adams, Lowrie, Cano, Smith.
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DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14930434 Metnut said:
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forgot Matt Adams as well. Apparently Cespedes took it upon himself to take some reps at 1b and not from the team.



Cespedes is likely a better hitter than Adams, Lowrie, Cano, Smith.


The NL has a DH now. In what scenario would Cespedes at 1b make more sense than him at DH? It would have to be such a comedy of errors that it's unfathomable. That doesn't even include Melky whom the team said will get some 1b reps.
Good job Sandy  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 3:22 pm : link
Jacob Resnick
@Jacob_Resnick
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6m
#Mets 2017 relief trade acquistions:

- Gerson Bautista: Seattle
- Jamie Callahan: FA
- Stephen Nogosek: Outrighted
- Ryder Ryan: Double-A
- Eric Hanhold: Baltimore
- Jacob Rhame: LA Angels

It's all ryding on Ryder.
A source in Cohen's  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 3:30 pm : link
camp claimed he is still "out" per AMNY. I don't think anybody really knows for sure with any real news.
Dan  
Samiam : 7/8/2020 3:31 pm : link
Thanks for all the Mets updates. Especially when there's not much else going on.
RE: Dan  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 3:34 pm : link
In comment 14930447 Samiam said:
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Thanks for all the Mets updates. Especially when there's not much else going on.


Tbh, I'm not even particularly interested in the season, but I'm interested in next season and where the franchise goes. I'm not a lunatic in the "I don't care if they win, I just want the Wilpons gone" group, but I do think they need them to be gone to be a consistent, solid franchise.
The  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 3:51 pm : link
Rockies are going to ask the league for approval to have 10,000 at their home games.
Heyman tweeting that  
Metnut : 7/8/2020 4:38 pm : link
Cohen is the favorite. Not sure if he has his own source or is just parroting Gasparino.
looks like 66 positive results...  
Italianju : 7/8/2020 4:43 pm : link
out of 3740 tests. Not too bad. Of course since this isnt really a bubble situation we cant say if this is the worst it will get. The sports that are doing the bubble you would think the number will stay low after initial testing, but baseball who knows.
RE: Heyman tweeting that  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2020 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14930476 Metnut said:
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Cohen is the favorite. Not sure if he has his own source or is just parroting Gasparino.


Reads like he's repeating what he's read.
'that the A-Rod group still has $$ question'  
Torrag : 7/8/2020 5:17 pm : link
That's the problem with these consortium style groups. No one has a firm handle on the money and who do you go to to spend more of it. They're also usually leveraged more than you'd like to see and that's already a problem the Mets are dealing with due to the wilponisies mismanagement.
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