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NGT Baker news: Quinton Dunbar hires second attorney

Giantsfan79 : 7/8/2020 7:08 am
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NEW: Quinton Dunbar adds 2nd lawyer to criminal defense team handling armed robbery case in FL. This comes several weeks after his other lawyer claimed that he had five witness affidavits saying that Dunbar was not involved. Hiring new lawyer suggests dismissal not imminent.


semi-related Baker news?
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That is  
section125 : 7/8/2020 7:14 am : link
ominous...
This has been a clown show all along. Attorneys babbling way beyond  
Ivan15 : 7/8/2020 7:46 am : link
The usual non-denial denials.
RE: That is  
Milton : 7/8/2020 7:52 am : link
In comment 14930185 section125 said:
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ominous...
Especially considering Dunbar was more accomplice than ringleader (that being Baker) when the news first broke. Just speculation on my part, but if Dunbar is guilty of something than Baker is likely guilty of something even worse. Of course that may not necessarily be true as this poorly written crime drama continues to be re-written.
RE: That is  
ColHowPepper : 7/8/2020 8:08 am : link
In comment 14930185 section125 said:
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ominous...
Indeed + what Ivan said. I've thought all along that Patel is a clown. "The lady doth protest too much" may be too mild for all his claims of exculpatory witnesses' recanting.

What was telling, early on, was the Miami lawyer saying at Baker's bail hearing that he would withhold certain witness statements for "future proceedings", or some such. He had a better handle on what was likely to come.
Baker and Dunbar remind me of  
NoPeanutz : 7/8/2020 10:57 am : link
Billy and Stan. Is this the guy he's hiring?
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SGMen : 7/8/2020 11:41 am : link
In comment 14930196 Milton said:
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ominous...

Especially considering Dunbar was more accomplice than ringleader (that being Baker) when the news first broke. Just speculation on my part, but if Dunbar is guilty of something than Baker is likely guilty of something even worse. Of course that may not necessarily be true as this poorly written crime drama continues to be re-written.
I tend to agree. This can NOT be seen in any positive light, not from my perspective.
I honestly believed this would be "dropped" in a deal before camp where Baker takes a mis-demeanor and a 4 game NFL suspension and hopefully learn something that will drive him UP the rest of his life.
Now I'm stepping back and just praying he isn't guilty of stupidity beyond measure.
Because these two are NFL players I always think "the prosecutors can't just be lenient...too many eyes...this is profile...thinking of my career" cause that is often how life rolls now I just don't know.
Praying...
We've been hearing from Baker's attorneys since mid-May...  
sb from NYT Forum : 7/8/2020 2:01 pm : link
...that the charges would be dismissed "soon" or "this week." Yet nearly two months later, no dismissal.

May 18, 2020: "A lawyer for New York Giants cornerback DeAndre Baker is confident the four counts of armed robbery with a firearm and four counts of aggravated assault against his client will be thrown out. 'This case is going to be dismissed,' he told Paul Schwartz of the New York Post on Monday. 'One day soon, this case is gonna be dismissed.'"

June 3, 2020: "Speaking to SNY's Ralph Vacchiano, Patrick G. Patel said he thinks 'we've got the case won' and expects it to be dismissed as soon as the end of this week."

June 23, 2020: "DeAndre Baker’s representation remains steadfast and confident the Giants cornerback will be cleared of any wrongdoing and the serious criminal charges against him will be dismissed. 'We have at least two witnesses that will testify as to Baker’s innocence,' Patrick Patel reiterated to The Post on Tuesday."

All we really know is that Baker failed to turn himself in on an arrest warrant for over two days and then amazingly turns up with a bunch of alleged affidavits exhonerating him. Go figure.
As a former prosecutor,  
BigBlueNH : 7/8/2020 2:52 pm : link
i've said from the beginning that if the charges weren't dropped/resolved by the time camp starts, then Baker is in deep shit. Prosecutors don't like fucking up the lives of innocent people. They might want to take their time and have their office do some investigating of their own, if the evidence is ambiguous. They will certainly have had plenty of time to do that by late July.
Obviously not good...  
trueblueinpw : 7/8/2020 3:42 pm : link
Wonder if this means Q is looking to cut a deal without Baker? Anyway, can’t be good for Giants fans.
RE: Baker and Dunbar remind me of  
ShockNRoll : 7/8/2020 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14930278 NoPeanutz said:
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Billy and Stan. Is this the guy he's hiring?


You win the thread!
RE: As a former prosecutor,  
SGMen : 7/8/2020 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14930416 BigBlueNH said:
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i've said from the beginning that if the charges weren't dropped/resolved by the time camp starts, then Baker is in deep shit. Prosecutors don't like fucking up the lives of innocent people. They might want to take their time and have their office do some investigating of their own, if the evidence is ambiguous. They will certainly have had plenty of time to do that by late July.
Ouch. I give it two weeks. If Baker isn't exonerated and talking "camp" and what not in two weeks than I'm hedging a bet he is in for a court battle. Just so sad, our off-season, and to see a young person mess up with (potentially) a gun is beyond me.
RE: Baker and Dunbar remind me of  
Greg from LI : 7/8/2020 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14930278 NoPeanutz said:
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Billy and Stan. Is this the guy he's hiring?


"Ah, ladies and gentlemen of the ju-ju-ju-ju....uhhhhh, ju-ju-ju-ju-RAY, uhhhhhhh...."
On the plus side  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/8/2020 8:54 pm : link
with Covid proceeding as it is, it looks as if Baker and his legal team will have almost a full year to clear his name, whether through a trial verdict of Not Guilty or otherwise.
RE: We've been hearing from Baker's attorneys since mid-May...  
shyster : 7/8/2020 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14930386 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...that the charges would be dismissed "soon" or "this week." Yet nearly two months later, no dismissal.


To be precise, we've been hearing that from only one of Baker's attorneys: Patrick Patel, his attorney in New Jersey, who does not have responsibility for this case, which is in Florida.

The Florida attorney who does have responsibility for the case, Bradford Cohen, has been very circumspect in his comments.

In the almost two months since the initial court hearing, I believe the only comment Cohen has made for publication was a short quote in the TMZ article a couple of weeks ago. And that was to the effect that he, Cohen, continues to believe in Baker's innocence.

Cohen has not predicted the outcome of the case or the timing of that outcome. When an article or headline does claim a prediction from Baker's attorneys, I'd pay attention to the particular source.
So much for this being a throw away case  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/8/2020 8:56 pm : link
and Baker being cleared soon.

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section125 : 7/8/2020 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14930196 Milton said:
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ominous...

Especially considering Dunbar was more accomplice than ringleader (that being Baker) when the news first broke. Just speculation on my part, but if Dunbar is guilty of something than Baker is likely guilty of something even worse. Of course that may not necessarily be true as this poorly written crime drama continues to be re-written.


I don't know that Baker was the ringleader. It was Dunbar that was arrested first, no? And that was quite a bit before Baker was arrested. Maybe I'm mis-remembering the time line here.

But the fact remains...something is rotten in Denamrk.
RE: So much for this being a throw away case  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/8/2020 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14930595 Dave in Hoboken said:
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and Baker being cleared soon.


Just because the prosecutors haven't yet conversed that it's a throw away case, nor the Judge deciding that up till now, doesn't mean it's NOT a "throw away" case.

Our criminal justice system is riddled with flaws, and it's not THAT difficult to manipulate police and prosecutors with false accusations.

Just sayin'...
Conversed above  
BlueLou'sBack : 7/8/2020 9:19 pm : link
should read "conceeded."
The justice system..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/8/2020 10:38 pm : link
has been impacted significantly by COVID. I wouldn't read much into not dropping the charges or anything else that's going on with the case right now. Everything is moving glacially, especially on the procedural side.
RE: Conversed above  
Big Blue '56 : 7/9/2020 6:44 am : link
In comment 14930605 BlueLou'sBack said:
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should read "conceeded."


Also conceded..:)
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Gatorade Dunk : 7/9/2020 12:54 pm : link
In comment 14930597 section125 said:
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ominous...

Especially considering Dunbar was more accomplice than ringleader (that being Baker) when the news first broke. Just speculation on my part, but if Dunbar is guilty of something than Baker is likely guilty of something even worse. Of course that may not necessarily be true as this poorly written crime drama continues to be re-written.



I don't know that Baker was the ringleader. It was Dunbar that was arrested first, no? And that was quite a bit before Baker was arrested. Maybe I'm mis-remembering the time line here.

But the fact remains...something is rotten in Denamrk.

Their warrants were issued simultaneously. Dunbar was arrested first because he surrendered first. Baker simply waited longer before turning himself in; I don't know how that can be interpreted as any sort of indicator of leadership in the alleged actions.
RE: RE: So much for this being a throw away case  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/9/2020 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14930603 BlueLou'sBack said:
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and Baker being cleared soon.




Just because the prosecutors haven't yet conversed that it's a throw away case, nor the Judge deciding that up till now, doesn't mean it's NOT a "throw away" case.

Our criminal justice system is riddled with flaws, and it's not THAT difficult to manipulate police and prosecutors with false accusations.

Just sayin'...


I agree. But Baker's lawyer was saying that he expects Baker to be cleared within a week or two along time ago, and that hasn't happened. That's what I was referring to.
Baker is going to get suspended  
DavidinBMNY : 7/9/2020 6:00 pm : link
At least for 4 games.

What's more Baker is likely to have violated the NFL's policies and has put his entire contract at risk.

I believe he will be placed on one of the commissioner's lists (as will Rosas).

RE: Baker is going to get suspended  
SGMen : 7/10/2020 12:36 pm : link
In comment 14930922 DavidinBMNY said:
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At least for 4 games.

What's more Baker is likely to have violated the NFL's policies and has put his entire contract at risk.

I believe he will be placed on one of the commissioner's lists (as will Rosas).
I see both players getting suspended for sure, 4 games is the usual I believe.
So here it is and NOTHING of substance has come out....YET.
So we sit & wait....
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