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NFT: Knicks: Teams believe Lamelo wants the Knicks

nygiants16 : 7/9/2020 4:36 pm
According to Begely teama currently behind the Knicks feel Lamelo will try and steer himself to new york.
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Robinsons....  
Italianju : 7/14/2020 9:01 am : link
foul situation was much better later in the season. And it didnt always translate to him playing more minutes.
Just fyi  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 9:02 am : link
Gibson played 15 minutes a night and mitch played 25
RE: Just fyi  
Semipro Lineman : 7/14/2020 10:12 am : link
In comment 14932891 nygiants16 said:
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Gibson played 15 minutes a night and mitch played 25


Hey, stop trying to insert things like that into a Knicks thread
I thought the Mitch/Taj combo at the five  
bceagle05 : 7/14/2020 10:40 am : link
was the only part of the roster that made any sense. The rest was just a cluttered mess of redundant, mediocre players.
Mitch/Taj is fine..  
Italianju : 7/14/2020 10:55 am : link
but we have to push Mitch to 30-33 minutes a game. If in his 3rd year he cant do that for whatever reason then i think we need to accept that he will be a solid player with great spurts and nothing more.
They  
DanMetroMan : 7/14/2020 10:57 am : link
need to give Mitch more overall responsibility both on the offensive end and keeping himself out of foul trouble. More minutes please.
.  
DanMetroMan : 7/14/2020 10:58 am : link
While Thibodeau remains the favorite, Kenny Atkinson still has strong internal support and was one of the last candidates interviewed.

Jason Kidd and Mike Woodson "are also highly regarded by influential people at Madison Square Garden”

via @IanBegley
My guess it is Thibs or Atkinson  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 11:03 am : link
With Woodson as lead assistant..Kidd on the staff if he wants it
If you are putting shooters  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 11:06 am : link
around Barrett and Mitch, the offense should be built around their pick and roll..

Obviously it is different if you add a ball dominant vet..
I like Begley because he has no axe to grind  
bceagle05 : 7/14/2020 11:11 am : link
but his reporting is 99 percent "this coach/free agent/draft prospect has some support within the building." He tends to just cover all his bases.
Teams that might blowup witb a bad bubble  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 12:21 pm : link
Houston? Utah? Philly? who else?
RE: RJ needs to improve his FTs first and foremost.  
Greg from LI : 7/14/2020 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14931961 bceagle05 said:
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He’s the type that will leave at the line, but he just gives points away.


He desperately needs to improve his shooting, period, from everywhere. He has the potential to be a Melo-type scorer but only if he can develop a shot like Melo. It's possible, but I can't say I'm certain that he will be able to. He simply isn't a good enough athlete to be a true top player without being at least a pretty good shooter.
They're going to  
Phil in LA : 7/14/2020 1:18 pm : link
screw up the coaching hire.
RE: They're going to  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14933057 Phil in LA said:
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screw up the coaching hire.


What makes you so sure? so far have done very well with front office hires
They've certainly left themselves vulnerable  
bceagle05 : 7/14/2020 1:40 pm : link
to second guessing with all these candidates - you know at least one or two of these young assistants will be good head coaches in the near future, and I don't think we've had an open mind about hiring them. Even if we convince one to be "associate head coach" or something, he'll have one foot out the door.
Leon's been unpredictable so far though  
bceagle05 : 7/14/2020 1:42 pm : link
so I'll wait and see who the hire is first - we'll know soon enough.
I think Woodson will be the associate head coach  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 1:59 pm : link
no matter who is the hire, Hahn speculated that the longer thia goes the less likely it is Thibs..
Wes  
DanMetroMan : 7/14/2020 2:10 pm : link
loves Kidd, gotta believe he's the member of the organization pushing for him.
RE: Wes  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14933088 DanMetroMan said:
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loves Kidd, gotta believe he's the member of the organization pushing for him.


And we know rose will listen to Wes, many thought once Wes was hired it was given Thibs would be the hire..
RE: They  
djm : 7/14/2020 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14932953 DanMetroMan said:
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need to give Mitch more overall responsibility both on the offensive end and keeping himself out of foul trouble. More minutes please.


Hopefully Mitch can learn how to spot up shoot. Maybe even put the ball on the floor and create. We had that rim protecting Dynamic big but felt compelled to trade him for fuck all, hopefully Mitch can become that kind of talent. I think Mitch is a better defender than KP but he has a long way to go on the other end of the floor.
According to Berman  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 6:49 pm : link
Jason Kidd "wowed" the Knicks during his interview..
Thibs still favorite because his relationships  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 6:55 pm : link
with Wes and Rose, of course he doesnt mention Wes relationship with Kidd..
RE: According to Berman  
BigBlueShock : 7/14/2020 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14933226 nygiants16 said:
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Jason Kidd "wowed" the Knicks during his interview..

Knicks: So, Jason, sell yourself...

Kidd: I’m close with Giannis. He may consider coming if I’m hired.

Knicks: WOW!!! Great interview, Jason! We’ll be in touch!
I bet Kidd was Berman’s source.  
bceagle05 : 7/14/2020 9:59 pm : link
“I wowed them, Marc!”
Rod Strickland may join the knicks  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 10:01 pm : link
replacing craig robinson.
Kidd’s so unlikeable.  
bceagle05 : 7/14/2020 10:02 pm : link
His history of backstabbing in only a few years as head coach, not to mention the domestic violence and DWI incidents. He’d have a lot of ‘splainin’ to do if I were interviewing him. Also, the teams he coached didn’t exactly overachieve. Feels like this would be Wes + a Giannis pipe dream.
Feels like Strickland’s been hovering for awhile now.  
bceagle05 : 7/14/2020 10:03 pm : link
All that’s missing is Calipari at this point.
RE: Feels like Strickland’s been hovering for awhile now.  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 10:18 pm : link
In comment 14933276 bceagle05 said:
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All that’s missing is Calipari at this point.


If Calipari was ever going to go to the NBA this would be it..
RE: Rod Strickland may join the knicks  
Enzo : 7/14/2020 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14933274 nygiants16 said:
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replacing craig robinson.

Rod Strickland for Maurice Cheeks might be the worst trade in the history of the franchise - and for the Knicks that's really saying something.
Melo looks like he is damn good shape  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 10:59 pm : link
..
RE: RE: Rod Strickland may join the knicks  
nygiants16 : 7/14/2020 11:00 pm : link
In comment 14933282 Enzo said:
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replacing craig robinson.


Rod Strickland for Maurice Cheeks might be the worst trade in the history of the franchise - and for the Knicks that's really saying something.


I am not old enough to know thr back story to that trade..

My earliest memories are 94 to present
Strickland always had a rep as difficult to work with though  
Greg from LI : 7/15/2020 8:21 am : link
It's not a coincidence that a guy as good as him played for nine different teams, never staying in one place longer than five years. Drafting him in the first place was odd because they had just drafted Mark Jackson the year before. The Cheeks trade was bad but it was born of their decision to keep Jackson over Strickland.
Why did the Knicks trade Jackson?  
nygiants16 : 7/15/2020 8:23 am : link
Seemed like a good pair with Ewing and seemed like they were building something
Honestly, I dont remember  
Greg from LI : 7/15/2020 8:26 am : link
Maybe there was a money dispute involved? Maybe he and Riley didn't get along? Dunno. I do remember being really angry about it, though. Didn't help that Charles Smith was a disappointment, either.
RE: Why did the Knicks trade Jackson?  
Strahan91 : 7/15/2020 10:05 am : link
In comment 14933312 nygiants16 said:
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Seemed like a good pair with Ewing and seemed like they were building something

They wanted guys who could ease the scoring burden which was all Ewing at the time and thought Smith and Blackman would provide that and push them over the top. Knicks had also drafted Greg Anthony or year or two first in the first round and felt like he could fill Jackson’s shoes.
Xavier  
DanMetroMan : 7/15/2020 11:02 am : link
Tillman going back to school, I'm very surprised. I liked him as high as the Knicks pick via LAC
RE: Xavier  
bceagle05 : 7/15/2020 11:29 am : link
In comment 14933383 DanMetroMan said:
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Tillman going back to school, I'm very surprised. I liked him as high as the Knicks pick via LAC

I guess the positive spin is it adds another good player to next year's stacked draft class. We have two firsts and potentially two high seconds, IF we don't make a significant trade before then.
RE: RE: Xavier  
DanMetroMan : 7/15/2020 11:39 am : link
In comment 14933391 bceagle05 said:
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Tillman going back to school, I'm very surprised. I liked him as high as the Knicks pick via LAC


I guess the positive spin is it adds another good player to next year's stacked draft class. We have two firsts and potentially two high seconds, IF we don't make a significant trade before then.


Fair take. I just liked Tillman's profile as another rotation piece to add to what we are trying to build. He's one to watch for me. Not a future star at all but a nice player.
RE: Why did the Knicks trade Jackson?  
Enzo : 7/15/2020 12:23 pm : link
In comment 14933312 nygiants16 said:
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Seemed like a good pair with Ewing and seemed like they were building something

Riley wanted more of a defender at PG. And the front office became enamored with Charles Smith who was a good stats on a bad team kinda guy. So they ended up with great defenses year after year but below average offenses. They botched quite a few moves after they drafted Ewing. Contrast that with the Bulls who immediately surrounded MJ with Grant and Pippen.
RE: Strickland always had a rep as difficult to work with though  
Enzo : 7/15/2020 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14933311 Greg from LI said:
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It's not a coincidence that a guy as good as him played for nine different teams, never staying in one place longer than five years. Drafting him in the first place was odd because they had just drafted Mark Jackson the year before. The Cheeks trade was bad but it was born of their decision to keep Jackson over Strickland.

Cheeks trade was more about Bianchi trying to save his job with a win-now move. Mark Jackson barely played in the playoffs that year after they got Cheeks. As for Strickland, you're overstating his travels around the league. He spent his prime with basically two team, and the Blazers only moved on him because they were committing highway robbery by getting Sheed for him.
Rolando Blackman was Jordan conning the Knicks  
Jim in Forest Hills : 7/15/2020 12:50 pm : link
They asked Jordan, "Who's the toughest defender you faced"

MJ: "Rolando Blackman"

Knicks get Rolando put him 1:1 vs MJ and were like "We just got F'd"
Knicks for years  
Phil in LA : 7/15/2020 12:51 pm : link
continually tried to recreate the Dave D trade. It never worked out, they also tried to remake the Cazzie for Lucas trade, and those haven't worked.
RE: Knicks for years  
Strahan91 : 7/15/2020 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14933455 Phil in LA said:
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continually tried to recreate the Dave D trade. It never worked out, they also tried to remake the Cazzie for Lucas trade, and those haven't worked.

I agree overall but had Smith been able to put the ball in the hoop in '93 the Knicks very possibly (if not likely) win it all and we might be talking about that trade very differently today.
RE: RE: Knicks for years  
Enzo : 7/15/2020 1:02 pm : link
In comment 14933458 Strahan91 said:
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continually tried to recreate the Dave D trade. It never worked out, they also tried to remake the Cazzie for Lucas trade, and those haven't worked.


I agree overall but had Smith been able to put the ball in the hoop in '93 the Knicks very possibly (if not likely) win it all and we might be talking about that trade very differently today.

even if he had made that shot, he was still a bad fit on a team that was already loaded with bigs.
Smith played welll with the Clippers  
Phil in LA : 7/15/2020 1:12 pm : link
then not as well with the Knicks. Wonder if it was Ewing.
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Strahan91 : 7/15/2020 1:13 pm : link
In comment 14933461 Enzo said:
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even if he had made that shot, he was still a bad fit on a team that was already loaded with bigs.

Yeah, I agree. I'm just saying a Knicks championship would've made people forget that and the value they got in return for Jackson. IE, a lesser version of the Cubs trading Gleyber Torres for a half season of Chapman but a WS win.
RE: Smith played welll with the Clippers  
Enzo : 7/15/2020 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14933467 Phil in LA said:
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then not as well with the Knicks. Wonder if it was Ewing.

he was fed the ball a lot on a bad team and put up some numbers. Happens all the time.
Jrue  
DanMetroMan : 7/15/2020 2:35 pm : link
Holiday is donating the remainder of his 2020 salary to charity... 5.3 million!!
Maybe the Knicks  
Semipro Lineman : 7/15/2020 2:44 pm : link
shouldn't have played a 6'10" power forward at small forward so much if they wanted him to reach his Clippers scoring figures especially since they were using anti-fastbreak offense as well. Anyway, his four year per 36 average as a Knick was 15.5. So he was a good player on a good team for his first three years as a Knick at least
Charles Smith stats - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Why did the Knicks trade Jackson?  
djm : 7/15/2020 10:43 pm : link
In comment 14933439 Enzo said:
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Seemed like a good pair with Ewing and seemed like they were building something


Riley wanted more of a defender at PG. And the front office became enamored with Charles Smith who was a good stats on a bad team kinda guy. So they ended up with great defenses year after year but below average offenses. They botched quite a few moves after they drafted Ewing. Contrast that with the Bulls who immediately surrounded MJ with Grant and Pippen.


Yup. In my view The GM that really shit the bed was bianchi. He inherited ewing and bad team with numerous draft and FA and trade chances to truly stock the shelves around Ewing. He blew it. When checketts and Riley came along the damage or lack of roster progress, other than ewing and Oakley was too much to overcome, in the end. Checketts and the front office had really one big chAnce to make the right move when the dealt Jackson and more away for smith. Most of the other moves, even the Xman signing one year prior were sort of lower cost under the radar types. Mason and starks were found off the scrap heap. Traded late first rounders for guys like Blackmon. But the big trade, the one where they traded legit deep assets and money, was the one for Smith. It shouldn’t have been THAT difficult to give ewing a great supporting cast. Very little margin for error. Bianchi did nothing.
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