Geoff Schwartz: “Giants locker room full of snitches”

never really felt he was a "Giant". Not to be harsh, but he rarely played. Fans were down on him during that time.

Also, isn't he telling on his teammates now? So what's the difference? What happens in the locker room stays in the locker room.

When ex-players rip on present or past players, it's all well and good, if it's a person that everyone is piling on.

When he was blasting Flowers, (he deserved alot of it) it was all good, no problem. He talsk about anything else, then his actual play for team status comes into question.

never read or listen to player interviews. Mostly positive bs. I prefer hearing the truth. Understand that players can’t do to that when they are active. However why not when retired especially when they do not name names. Did he name those that tried to convert him? I would be curious about that but we don’t know.. How exactly does the past stuff he tells us hurts team now?

And finally how does your failures as a player make you ineligible to express your experiences? Sorry but some of the best players are morons.

I also note the hypocrisy of some posters. Some of you actually love hearing this stuff.

while I despise any player who reveals discussions that occurred behind the locker room door (as pointed out in my prior post), I find it "comical" that some here would judge the truthfulness of Schwartz's comments based upon his production as a player when he was on the team.

If you want to say he is full of shit because he is looking for some click bait to promote whatever it is he is doing now... then I am fine with that. To bring up his production on the field is as relevant as saying he also had bad breath.

Those that don't play due to injury or not being starters will have a bias about their time. Ever ask a fired unproductive employee what they thought of their boss?

the part where he basically said "well I was signed to play RG and then they told me I had to play a couple more positions" and he was bitching about that, pretty much sums up this guys career. Bitching and moaning and being hurt far more than actually playing.

nobody is doubting the truthfulness of what he's saying...i think it's just the fact that he's talking about everything is the main issue. I mean, he's literally on twitter and radio spilling all of his, and yet, when he played he's saying that people talking bothered him? That's a bit rich.

In comment 14931188 upnyg said:

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Those that don't play due to injury or not being starters will have a bias about their time. Ever ask a fired unproductive employee what they thought of their boss?

Listen to what people say, consider all factors and draw your own conclusions. Don’t just tell people to shut up.

In comment 14931188 upnyg said:

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Those that don't play due to injury or not being starters will have a bias about their time. Ever ask a fired unproductive employee what they thought of their boss?

he said he liked Coughlin and the Maras. Did you even listen to the interview?

In your example it would be like asking a fired unproductive employee how they liked their co-workers. Pretty sure most won't make up bad things to say about them.

Even then though it's a bad analogy.

In comment 14931106 pjcas18 said:

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or if he sucked as a Giant or if he likes the sound of his own voice.

I think that last part matters...a lot. I don't care when former players blast the Giants, there's a lot of reason for it. But Schwartz is on another level with the frequency, its just really odd. He 100% likes the sound of his own voice and lets everyone know over and over again.

Just seems very opportunistic is all and people should be allowed to call him out on it. Doesn't mean his points aren't valid.

his comments would be like Rex Ryan saying his Jets teams did too much chest thumping in the media. That would be accurate but also completely lacking the awareness that his own behavior directly contributed to what he's now prescribing.

Obviously an extreme example because Rex Ryan had a lot more control over his team's lockerroom as HC than Geoff Schwartz as a player, but the point remains - Geoff seems to think his only issues here were that he got hurt. Not that he underperformed when he was on the field. Not that he failed to fill an apparent leadership void as a highly paid veteran in a young OL room. Not that he seemingly had a poor attitude about switching positions when injuries hit. He seems blind to the fact that the problems he's describing existed in that lockerroom precisely because it was filled with too many players like him in the first place. He doesn't seem to see that his complaints about position are no different than all the criticisms he levels on others in that lockerroom like Flowers.

his comments about the team over the years including his criticisms of Flowers. He may be accurate in some of his technical observations and even accurate in his character assessments, but doesn't change the fact that he's a literally massive hypocrite who displays many of the same qualities he seems to easily find fault with in others.

In comment 14931212 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 14931106 pjcas18 said: Quote: or if he sucked as a Giant or if he likes the sound of his own voice. I think that last part matters...a lot. I don't care when former players blast the Giants, there's a lot of reason for it. But Schwartz is on another level with the frequency, its just really odd. He 100% likes the sound of his own voice and lets everyone know over and over again. Just seems very opportunistic is all and people should be allowed to call him out on it. Doesn't mean his points aren't valid.

Of course - my point was none of that matters to his points being valid or not. Not to if people like or care what he says.

He looks like he's 60!

At first we hated him and we thought he was a troll. When it turned out it was really him we loved talking with him and hearing about what was going on inside.

One of a few threads from the archives.
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Kehl

The Schwartz made off like a bandit

All about merchandising

shows up on BBi.
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Was fine as an x's and o' guy, but was a horrible leader, plus Mara ran away when they benched Eli, really had his coaches back, but the guy was in way over his head, you have to be very confident and sure of yourself, make decisions on your beliefs only, you can ask for all the help you want to, even trusting someone may know more and use that opinion, once the decision is made, as head coach that is now your responsibility, if wrong you look the media in the eye and say,I was wrong and move forward, McAdoo was unable to handle it, and then was left to twist in the wind and the organization had another scapegoat. Mr. Mara started with Coughlin, then McAdoo, then Reese (who he hated to give up), now its Gettleman, there is always Eli to blame also, but there is one constant.

...so he knows what's going on with the multi billion dollar sports club he's responsible for you need a different head coach.

was that he was told he'd play one position when he signed, but the coaches had him playing a different one. Just seems like Coughlin, Reese, and ownership could never get on the same page.

Those who won, like Simms, Eli, Taylor, Carson, Banks etc. who look back and tell funny stories and fond anecdotes from their days on the field.

And those who didn't, like Schwartz, Barber etc. who look back and talk about all the things that were wrong

In comment 14931349 WideRight said:

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Those who won, like Simms, Eli, Taylor, Carson, Banks etc. who look back and tell funny stories and fond anecdotes from their days on the field. And those who didn't, like Schwartz, Barber etc. who look back and talk about all the things that were wrong

Add Jim Bouton to that list. RIP one year today.

In comment 14931303 PaulN said:

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Was fine as an x's and o' guy, but was a horrible leader, plus Mara ran away when they benched Eli, really had his coaches back, but the guy was in way over his head, you have to be very confident and sure of yourself, make decisions on your beliefs only, you can ask for all the help you want to, even trusting someone may know more and use that opinion, once the decision is made, as head coach that is now your responsibility, if wrong you look the media in the eye and say,I was wrong and move forward, McAdoo was unable to handle it, and then was left to twist in the wind and the organization had another scapegoat. Mr. Mara started with Coughlin, then McAdoo, then Reese (who he hated to give up), now its Gettleman, there is always Eli to blame also, but there is one constant.

Really? They ran 1 formation on offense 99.9% of the time that they did not have the personnel to run effectively. He must have run out of chalk.

That’s the real problem in sports today these former players can’t just walk away from the game got to have media time. How many of us in olden days listened to former players about the team drugs, alcohol, women other vices everywhere but today there is no honor for the sport.

“The beloved baseball classic now available in paperback, with an updated epilogue by Jim Bouton.

When Ball Four was first published in 1970, it hit the sports world like a lightning bolt. Commissioners, executives, and players were shocked. Sportswriters called author Jim Bouton a traitor and social leper. Commissioner Bowie Kuhn tried to force him to declare the book untrue. Fans, however, loved the book. And serious critics called it an important social document. Today, Jim Bouton is still not invited to Oldtimer's Days at Yankee Stadium. But his landmark book is still being read by people who don't ordinarily follow baseball.“

interesting post on the what ifs of the 'Skins game end of '15 season

as the responsible party in the "Upper Decker Incident"

Geoff Schwartz
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You ever fart so smelly that you’re surprised by just how bad it is? It’s never happened to me, but I’m sure it’s happened to y’all every night when you’re under the covers.


Geoff Schwartz
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I’m always so intrigued when someone attempts to bash me by saying my 8 year NFL was shit. What is the goal? I feel bad for playing 8 years? My opinion, which you seek out by following me, is not valid now? Do I give back the money? I’m so fascinated by this

Attention whore who really didn't do much of anything during his playing days.

He is quick to dismiss his own failings and even quicker to stir shit up after his days are over

In comment 14931044 Greg from LI said:

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....find someone who loves you as much as Geoff Schwartz loves the sound of his own voice.

This is such a perfectly spot-on post